Hypothetical: a toddler (say 3 yrs) drops the hair dryer into the bathtub

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: shimsham
do you believe there are any people in this world that are truly evil? does everyone have an excuse?

sociopaths have no empathy, and may even delight in inflicting pain on others, torturing and murdering people. there is an explanation as to why such people exist - their genetic heritage, their child hood experiences. (You might call the scientific explanation an excuse - I call it what it is, i.e., an explanation.) These people will always represent a danger to others, and therefore must be locked away for the term of their natural life. I hesitate to use the word evil when describing these people, tho. Evil is a religious concept. Sociopathy as a personality trait has survived in the human race - therefore you have to assume it does confer some surivival advatages (otherwise it would have died out). That's neither good nor bad, it's just the way evolution works.

sure, until it comes to you.

and what of all those that suffer the same road in life yet dont turn to those things? are they still crazy?

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

agreed.

how the fvck can you even compare the 2? one is a, well, 3yo now. the other is an adult who obviously was sane enough to make it as far as that woman did in life.

jesus h christ on a bike.

Note: 'crazy' people think differently than sane people. That's why we call them crazy. Stop pretending that that woman was a rationale agent, perfectly able to understand that what she was doing was "wrong". If anything, the fact she did it in broad daylight suggests to me she felt she was perfectly justified in drowning those kids. Maybe she thought she was doing "god's work". You compare the two, because in BOTH situations, you have an individual unable to comprenhend the morality of the situation and the ramifications of the action.

note: no sh!t sherlock.



yet she is capable of understanding all the other aspects and decisions we are faced with in life? how the hell did she make it that far if shes that crazy?

because "crazy" comes and goes. people aren't born with schizophrenic symptoms, they develop them in adulthood (or late childhood)

what if its not schizo? what if this woman just had snapped and had had enough? still crazy?

why are you clinging to that? no details are known so far. but i guess that the easy route for you to take because no matter what the woman will claim crazy just to save her own ass.


survival indeed.

 

[mchammer]

Forget it dudes, this guy is basically a human computer it seems.

 

[Vic]

I met a man locked away
For things he hadn't done
Innocence on a ball and chain
He'll never feel the sun
Again on his face or roses
In his hands but when he smiled
At me I could understand

[Chorus]
If you're free you'll never see the walls
If your head is clear you'll never free fall
If you're right you'll never fear the wrong
If your head is high you'll never fear at all

There was a daughter of a man
Who took his life too young
She swore she'd never do the same
Then did just what he'd done
And a boy who's gone insane
Hears voices in his head
No one knows what they say
Now his mama's dead

[Chorus]

There was a man who had a face
That looked a lot like me
I saw him in the mirror and
I fought him in the street
And when he turned away
I shot him in the head
Then I came to realize
I had killed myself

[Chorus]

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

Does that insult indicate that I am in fact temporaalily insane, who decides who is insane? Is it possible to do something bad and not be insane?

go on a killing spree. aidanjm says its okay!

WooHoo! I shall claim insanity...ok who should I start with?

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

Does that insult indicate that I am in fact temporaalily insane, who decides who is insane? Is it possible to do something bad and not be insane?

go on a killing spree. aidanjm says its okay!

WooHoo! I shall claim insanity...ok who should I start with?

might as well start with that poor soul who lovingly tried to give her children swimming lessons the hard way.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

Does that insult indicate that I am in fact temporaalily insane, who decides who is insane? Is it possible to do something bad and not be insane?

go on a killing spree. aidanjm says its okay!

WooHoo! I shall claim insanity...ok who should I start with?

might as well start with that poor soul who lovingly tried to give her children swimming lessons the hard way.

Damn, I'm getting a hard on already...

 

[shimsham]

lol, im not quite sure what to say....

 

[sandorski]

Parents lose custody, MJ gains custody. Everybody wins!!!