Hypothetical: a toddler (say 3 yrs) drops the hair dryer into the bathtub

[aidanjm]

What is justice in this situation?

Lethal injection for the toddler?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

No, the toddler is to young to know better. However, the parents should be beaten for allowing their child to do that.

 

[2cpuminimum]

Firing squad for parents, the chair for the toddler.

 

[Nitemare]

I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

 

[Goosemaster]

rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: HamburgerBoy
No, the toddler is to young to know better. However, the parents should be beaten for allowing their child to do that.

Applying your reasoning to the woman who drowned her kids.. the woman is too CRAZY (i.e., psychotic, mentally ill) to know better than to drown her kids.. However, her husband (or psychiatrist) (or community, or society) should be beaten for allowing their obviously mentally deranged wife/ patient/ citizen spend time alone with children. Correct?

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

agreed.

how the fvck can you even compare the 2? one is a, well, 3yo now. the other is an adult who obviously was sane enough to make it as far as that woman did in life.

jesus h christ on a bike.

 

[mchammer]

Any outlet in a bathroom should be GFCI protected, so that is impossible.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

again, who said they dont advocate services for those that need them? fact is she killed her own children before any supposed (as the facts on this case are far from known at this point) mental illness.

one question for you:

do you believe there are any people in this world that are truly evil? does everyone have an excuse? did hitler?

edit: thats actually 3 ?s.

 

[Goosemaster]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

LOFL....look at the fvking asterisk buddy

 

[shimsham]

and again, where is the justice for the father?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

agreed.

how the fvck can you even compare the 2? one is a, well, 3yo now. the other is an adult who obviously was sane enough to make it as far as that woman did in life.

jesus h christ on a bike.

Note: 'crazy' people think differently than sane people. That's why we call them crazy. Stop pretending that that woman was a rationale agent, perfectly able to understand that what she was doing was "wrong". If anything, the fact she did it in broad daylight suggests to me she felt she was perfectly justified in drowning those kids. Maybe she thought she was doing "god's work". You compare the two, because in BOTH situations, you have an individual unable to comprenhend the morality of the situation and the ramifications of the action.

 

[Baked]

Did you even watched that episode of Myth Buster where they tried throwing a crap load of eletrical appliances into the bath tub? It's not gonna work. The safety electrical trigger will cut the current before anybody gets eletricuted.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: mchammer
Any outlet in a bathroom should be GFCI protected, so that is impossible.

It's an old house. The electrical wiring isn't up to spec.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

agreed.

how the fvck can you even compare the 2? one is a, well, 3yo now. the other is an adult who obviously was sane enough to make it as far as that woman did in life.

jesus h christ on a bike.

Note: 'crazy' people think differently than sane people. That's why we call them crazy. Stop pretending that that woman was a rationale agent, perfectly able to understand that what she was doing was "wrong". If anything, the fact she did it in broad daylight suggests to me she felt she was perfectly justified in drowning those kids. Maybe she thought she was doing "god's work". You compare the two, because in BOTH situations, you have an individual unable to comprenhend the morality of the situation and the ramifications of the action.

note: no sh!t sherlock.



yet she is capable of understanding all the other aspects and decisions we are faced with in life? how the hell did she make it that far if shes that crazy?

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer
Any outlet in a bathroom should be GFCI protected, so that is impossible.

It's an old house. The electrical wiring isn't up to spec.

http://yourethemannowdog.ytmnd.com/

 

[Vic]

Some circumstances contain their own punishment, with no external intervention required for justice to occur. The OP is exactly one of those.

 

[mobobuff]

It's called an unfortunate accident.
The community donates money to the family tradgedy.
The family is depressed.
Toddler doesn't know what happened.
Toddler grows up and realizes that he killed his brother and sister.
Toddler lives a very depressing life.
Toddler commits suicide at age 16.
Parents resort to alcoholism and daily abusive arguments.
Toddler was the end of the family heritage.
Parents die.
End.

 

[mchammer]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

Does that insult indicate that I am in fact temporaalily insane, who decides who is insane? Is it possible to do something bad and not be insane?

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: mchammer

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: Goosemaster
rturhtfully the charge would probably be child endangerment due to neglect*



*pulled that out of my ass

So who let that crazy woman run around town with her kids? Shouldn't she have been supervised by her psych. doc, or her husband..? Or the larger society? Where were her government funded case workers, doctors, psychologists, child welfare advocates? Oh, I forgot, you guys don't believe in wasting money on that sh1t, so she fell thru the cracks and no-one noticed she was off her nut..

Youre an idiot, we already have all of that stuff.

insults.. ah yes, the refuge of those who have no arguments

Does that insult indicate that I am in fact temporaalily insane, who decides who is insane? Is it possible to do something bad and not be insane?

go on a killing spree. aidanjm says its okay!

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: shimsham
do you believe there are any people in this world that are truly evil? does everyone have an excuse?

sociopaths have no empathy, and may even delight in inflicting pain on others, torturing and murdering people. there is an explanation as to why such people exist - their genetic heritage, their child hood experiences. (You might call the scientific explanation an excuse - I call it what it is, i.e., an explanation.) These people will always represent a danger to others, and therefore must be locked away for the term of their natural life. I hesitate to use the word evil when describing these people, tho. Evil is a religious concept. Sociopathy as a personality trait has survived in the human race - therefore you have to assume it does confer some surivival advatages (otherwise it would have died out). That's just the way evolution works.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: shimsham

Originally posted by: Nitemare
I'd say lethal injection for aidanjm for posting lameass threads

agreed.

how the fvck can you even compare the 2? one is a, well, 3yo now. the other is an adult who obviously was sane enough to make it as far as that woman did in life.

jesus h christ on a bike.

Note: 'crazy' people think differently than sane people. That's why we call them crazy. Stop pretending that that woman was a rationale agent, perfectly able to understand that what she was doing was "wrong". If anything, the fact she did it in broad daylight suggests to me she felt she was perfectly justified in drowning those kids. Maybe she thought she was doing "god's work". You compare the two, because in BOTH situations, you have an individual unable to comprenhend the morality of the situation and the ramifications of the action.

note: no sh!t sherlock.



yet she is capable of understanding all the other aspects and decisions we are faced with in life? how the hell did she make it that far if shes that crazy?

because "crazy" comes and goes. people aren't born with schizophrenic symptoms, they develop them in adulthood (or late childhood)