Hyundai Equus Hard to Buy

[dave_the_nerd]

Those must be some big-ass car seats. (I actually drive a TL. By my standards, it's friggin' huge.)

I suppose SUVs are standard-issue equipment for real estate agents for a reason. Have you considered going that route?

 

[BurnItDwn]

My suggestions were bad suggestions due to not reading all the replies ..

For comfort, may be worth looking at used Volvos, but, they will be expensive to maintain.

We picked up a Ford Edge for the woman's car, the thing is Super Duper comfortable.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

What about a Toyota Century?

 

[NutBucket]

Nevermind

 

[Beer4Me]

Speaking of Carfax/Autocheck not reporting accidents, this is quite common. All you have to do is pay out of pocket for any repairs, and they don't show on VIN lookup. When any insurance is involved, they HAVE to report it on the vehicle history. This is also a common practice with exotic cars, which is why you can never trust vehicle history reports on high-end vehicles.

Edit: You got me eyeing the Equus now. I've been debating between a '14 LS460 or '16/17 SRT Charger (not the Hellcat), but now the Equus is on my shortlist.

 

[drbrock]

Update:

Went to drive a few Equus and they all have their independent issues.

Getting somewhat tired of going to find issues with these cars. So I started test driving other vehicles. The 2014 E350 was VERY nice inside. Kind of an old school luxury. I have trying to figure out if I can replace the top head unit with a pioneer that has carplay. All Mercedes have a terrible infotainment screen. The only one I like is the Audi. The one I am thinking about buying is this one.
E350 28k OTD

Also thinking about the Q5. According to Consumer Reports both vehicles have a solid reliability record.

Should I keep on the Equus Train and wait for the right one for about the same 28k OTD price or just get the better looking E Class/Audi Q5. Or save at least 10k and get an Accord EXL.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Update:

Went to drive a few Equus and they all have their independent issues.

Getting somewhat tired of going to find issues with these cars. So I started test driving other vehicles. The 2014 E350 was VERY nice inside. Kind of an old school luxury. I have trying to figure out if I can replace the top head unit with a pioneer that has carplay. All Mercedes have a terrible infotainment screen. The only one I like is the Audi. The one I am thinking about buying is this one.
E350 28k OTD

Also thinking about the Q5. According to Consumer Reports both vehicles have a solid reliability record.

Should I keep on the Equus Train and wait for the right one for about the same 28k OTD price or just get the better looking E Class/Audi Q5. Or save at least 10k and get an Accord EXL.

Nobody here's gonna piss on you for driving an Accord.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

I currently drive a 2011 Genesis with the 4.6 (Based on the same Tau platform as the 5.0 in the Equus) and it has been rock solid. One minor accident in the rear left side before I bought it at 68k miles in February and I am just about to break 78k (Or I might've this weekend) No major issues, some mildly expensive 'upkeep' things like a transmission flush but that was every 60k miles so it happened before I bought it. I do have the ZF 6 speed auto whereas the later model Genesis and Equus use a Hyundai 8 speed auto. I haven't heard anything bad about them, but I'm sure they're not up to the ZF quality.

Overall maintenance 'would' be cheaper on the Equus than an Audi/Mercedes except how limited they are. Most everything on my Genesis is more Kia priced than Audi priced.

Considering I own one of them I'm biased, but I'd say any one of these is good. Kia K900 (It's on the same RWD Genesis platform, you might not like cadenza-like front though), a 2nd generation Genesis (2015+), or a low-mileage E class, or the Equus.

The Equus really is incredible, and is probably second only to the 2nd generation Genesis IMO. The new Genesis very nearly outdid the 2014 E class I looked at and was way beyond the previous generation E class (2011). All these cars are incredible though, only one I've never driven is the k900 and it is basically a Genesis so it shouldn't be bad

 

[Beer4Me]

I currently drive a 2011 Genesis with the 4.6 (Based on the same Tau platform as the 5.0 in the Equus) and it has been rock solid. One minor accident in the rear left side before I bought it at 68k miles in February and I am just about to break 78k (Or I might've this weekend) No major issues, some mildly expensive 'upkeep' things like a transmission flush but that was every 60k miles so it happened before I bought it. I do have the ZF 6 speed auto whereas the later model Genesis and Equus use a Hyundai 8 speed auto. I haven't heard anything bad about them, but I'm sure they're not up to the ZF quality.

Overall maintenance 'would' be cheaper on the Equus than an Audi/Mercedes except how limited they are. Most everything on my Genesis is more Kia priced than Audi priced.

Considering I own one of them I'm biased, but I'd say any one of these is good. Kia K900 (It's on the same RWD Genesis platform, you might not like cadenza-like front though), a 2nd generation Genesis (2015+), or a low-mileage E class, or the Equus.

The Equus really is incredible, and is probably second only to the 2nd generation Genesis IMO. The new Genesis very nearly outdid the 2014 E class I looked at and was way beyond the previous generation E class (2011). All these cars are incredible though, only one I've never driven is the k900 and it is basically a Genesis so it shouldn't be bad

The K900 is Kia's "top" luxury vehicle, and as such, it shares it's drive-train with the Genesis G90 (formerly Hyundai Equus). The Genesis G80 is just a rebadged Hyundai Genesis. And in case you were wondering, they just released a G70 sedan to compete with BMW 3-series, A4, and C-class. Size-wise it is comparable to an Infiniti Q50 (formerly G37) however.

The Cadenza and Genesis are same drive train vehicles in the Hyundai/Kia family. FYI, the newly released Kia Stinger rides on the same platform as the newly released Genesis G70, but you'd never notice because it's really a different beast. Kia and Hyundai both share Albert Biermann for performance related tuning of their latest creations, Stinger/G70. He also involved with the latest Elantra Sport (2017+), and Hyundai's latest "N" line of performance vehicles which recently launched in European market. US/CA is supposed to get a N-spec Veloster next year. I honestly wish they'd kill off the Veloster as I find it to be one ugly and impractical SoB.

/Sorry to derail - I've been doing a lot of research on Hyundai/Kia lately as my lease is running out on my '15 GS Fsport in 11 months. And yes, the back seats are near useless in this long 4-dr sedan. It's an awesome vehicle, and I'd buy it out of the lease if the back seats weren't so small. You really feel how bad it is when you have rear-facing child seat(s) installed. That is the true test for any rear seat roominess.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Ah, sorry, guess I should've been clearer. By second generation Genesis I meant the 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis before they became Genesis the company. The Genesis G80 is very very nice, but quite a bit more expensive in the used market than a 2015-2016 Hyundai Genesis.
And while the Genesis and Cadenza are on the 'same' platform I feel like they should be differentiated because of how different they are. FWD Cadenza vs RWD Genesis, plus the differences they have to have in suspension and general ride characteristics because how much heaver the Genesis is.

The Cadenza is a very very nice car though

 

[madoka]

Nobody here's gonna piss on you for driving an Accord.

My MIL bought a new Genesis for about the cost of an new Accord Touring. I don't know why anyone would buy the Honda if they actually compared it to the Genesis.

 

[dave_the_nerd]

My MIL bought a new Genesis for about the cost of an new Accord Touring. I don't know why anyone would buy the Honda if they actually compared it to the Genesis.

Top couple trim packages are always hideously overpriced for what you get. I'd be thinking more along the lines of a use EX.

But isn't the Genesis their little sports coupe? Those are very different cars, even if they are the same price.

 

[Bubbleawsome]

Top couple trim packages are always hideously overpriced for what you get. I'd be thinking more along the lines of a use EX.

But isn't the Genesis their little sports coupe? Those are very different cars, even if they are the same price.

Well you had the Hyundai Genesis coupe

Along with the Hyundai Genesis

And the Hyundai Equus

And then in 2015 the Genesis got an upgrade

(Looks a lot better in real life)

And then for 2017 Genesis split into its own company. The Hyundai Genesis became the Genesis G80, the Hyundai Equus became the G90, and the coupe was dropped.
G80

G90

 

[dave_the_nerd]

Too confusing. I'll buy a Ford instead.

 

[Jimzz]

Look for a Kia K900. Same car and most have the V8 and all options. Because it does not have the better name/badge they are easier to find and cheaper.

 

[Scarpozzi]

I would never care about resale value on a car that I bought unless I worried about longevity and wanted to dump it off for some reason. In most of my purchases, I expect to put 120k miles on the car before parting with it. I just remember the hyundais of the late 90s and early 2000s and have trouble trusting them that long....but can definitely assume they've come a long way as long as common parts aren't too expensive. I had a tenant tell me some of the korean parts they were trying to find were about triple the cost of American and Japanese parts... Just read up on common problems and try to figure out how much risk you may be taking on from normal engineering and wear & tear on common breakdowns for that model. (sensors/relays/etc)