I am done with College Football

HopJokey

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Until they get a true playoff system.

I rooted so hard for Nebraska to win the Big XII title game just because I want to see the BCS blown up.

I think a playoff system in Division I-A NCAA Football would be an awesome thing and bring true excitement to the game across the nation. I'm not greedy, I'll settle for a 6-8 team playoff for now if it doesn't leave any teams that have a shot at the title.

As it stands the bowl system is collusion amongst the "big name" teams against the ones in smaller conferences to keep them out of the money. A playoff would only grow the pie, but make it so the wealth is more evenly distributed.

Every other sport in every other division of the NCAA has a playoff system, but Division I-A (FBS) does not? Not to mention virtually every other sport on the planet.

Here is a great article I read arguing for a playoff and counterpoints to all the arguments against a playoff:

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footba...lug=dw-ncaafplayoff120709&prov=yhoo&type=lgns

The BCS even set up propaganda sites because it knows it is bad:

http://twitter.com/InsidetheBCS
http://www.playoffproblem.com/

Thus as a consumer the best way to voice my dissent is to vote with my dollar. This means no more watching games, no going to games, no following the sport, no buying merchandise, etc.

Who is with me? I would love those on both sides chime in.

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Cliffs:

College Football needs a Playoff System
 

HopJokey

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lol college football! There are many, many reasons why college football is clearly inferior to the NFL, and the BCS system is probably the most glaring example.

I agree, the NFL is much better. But I am a big sports fan and like a lot of them both pro and amateur.
 

geno

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I'm a rabid NFL fan and never found college ball to be all that exciting. So I guess you could say I'm with ya, lol.
 

brandonbull

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Why are people made at the BCS? People will still cry because their team didn't get in or didn't get a fair matchup. The BCS was never meant to be a playoff system.
 

dullard

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Yes, Division I-A needs a playoff. Just like you said, all other divisions have it without problems. It is time to stop the excuses.

Force all conferences to have a conference champion. The top 6 rated conference champions get to go to the playoff automatically. Not in a conference? Too bad for you. Thanks for playing but we need to end special rules for individual teams. The last two teams can be from any conference - champion or not. Did you win a lesser conference but are ranked low? Too bad, play better teams next year. You essentially have a pseudo 16-team playoff if you use the already common conference championship games.

There you have an 8 team playoff. That requires 7 total games which are played in the best bowls (Rose bowl, Sugar bowl, etc). You can even keep the common history going. Since the Big-10 and Pac-10 probably will each have a team in the playoff, the Rose bowl can start with that matchup. Same with other storied matchups. At most, the teams that make the national championship game have to play 2 more games than they do now.

I perfer getting rid of the crappy bowls (do you really get excited about the papajohns.com bowl?) But, I suppose you could keep them around for the "what-if" scenarios. What if TCU played Cincinnati or Boise St?
 
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HopJokey

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Why are people made at the BCS? People will still cry because their team didn't get in or didn't get a fair matchup. The BCS was never meant to be a playoff system.

I am only mad that the BCS prevents a playoff system. Yes someone will always get left out, but the playoff should be set up so that those with a great possibility of winning the title are not.

A good example is the NCAA Basketball Men's Tourney for D-I. There are a ton of bubble teams that are left out, but realistically none of those teams were true title contenders and no one disputes the legitimacy of the title for college basketball (I am not saying college football should use a similar playoff system).
 

slsmnaz

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Thus as a consumer the best way to voice my dissent is to vote with my dollar. This means no more watching games, no going to games, no following the sport, no buying merchandise, etc.

I agree they need a playoff but you lost me with the above paragraph. I'm not going to stop watching just because I think that. The BCS is setup to match the #1 and #2 teams in the country and many believe that was accomplished (I'm not 100% sure but it's not a big deal since anyone would get demolished by bama). The rest of the BCS bowls are just for money.

And anyone touting the NFL over CFB is absolutely nuts.
 

HopJokey

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I agree they need a playoff but you lost me with the above paragraph. I'm not going to stop watching just because I think that. The BCS is setup to match the #1 and #2 teams in the country and many believe that was accomplished (I'm not 100% sure but it's not a big deal since anyone would get demolished by bama). The rest of the BCS bowls are just for money.

And anyone touting the NFL over CFB is absolutely nuts.

It will be hard for me but I think it is the right thing for me to do.
 

mjquilly

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I LOVE the way that College Football works. It makes the regular season, ALL of it, a playoff game each week. The NFL format with 4 x 4 team divisions in each conference allows too many bad teams to get into the playoffs too easily.
 

HopJokey

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I LOVE the way that College Football works. It makes the regular season, ALL of it, a playoff game each week. The NFL format with 4 x 4 team divisions in each conference allows too many bad teams to get into the playoffs too easily.

Yep TCU, UC, BSU goes undefeated and they do not have a chance at the title.

Last year UF and OU lose one game during the regular season which is proclaimed to be "a playoff" where as Utah goes undefeated and gets left out the title game. Utah was the only undefeated team last season.

Yep the regular season is a "playoff game each week" alright.

The problem with the BCS is that teams are more scared than ever to schedule good games outside of their conference slate. The formula is simple for the well known top teams (UF, OU, UT, USC, etc.) that start near the top of the preseason polls based on reputation: win out and you'll get to the title game. Don't schedule any hard games; and if your conference is weak that year even better for you. This actually hurts the regular season more than helps it with less quality games.
 

ChanHo78

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I am looking forward to the bowls this year. I just wish tcu and Boise weren't playing each other. A playoff would be nice but there are millions of little green reasons it will not. Unless Obama steps in lol.
 

GlacierFreeze

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I LOVE the way that College Football works. It makes the regular season, ALL of it, a playoff game each week. The NFL format with 4 x 4 team divisions in each conference allows too many bad teams to get into the playoffs too easily.

So you love automatically excluding half the teams? It's asinine. I bet you're a fan of a team in an AQ conference. Pull your head out of the clouds. You're engulfed with all the media bias the BCS wants to feed you.

Look at how they paired up TCU vs. Boise State. They didn't want a non-AQ team to embarrass an AQ team like Utah did last year and Boise did a few years ago. BCS is bogus.
 

GlacierFreeze

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Yep TCU, UC, BSU goes undefeated and they do not have a chance at the title.

Last year UF and OU lose one game during the regular season which is proclaimed to be "a playoff" where as Utah goes undefeated and gets left out the title game. Utah was the only undefeated team last season.

Yep the regular season is a "playoff game each week" alright.

The problem with the BCS is that teams are more scared than ever to schedule good games outside of their conference slate. The formula is simple for the well known top teams (UF, OU, UT, USC, etc.) that start near the top of the preseason polls based on reputation: win out and you'll get to the title game. Don't schedule any hard games; and if your conference is weak that year even better for you. This actually hurts the regular season more than helps it with less quality games.

Bingo.

And your last paragraph shows how SEC keeps it's "strongest conference" label. They all schedule 2-3 cream puff OOC games every year and the media rides their nut sacks. It's pathetic.
 

PimpJuice

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I LOVE the way that College Football works. It makes the regular season, ALL of it, a playoff game each week. The NFL format with 4 x 4 team divisions in each conference allows too many bad teams to get into the playoffs too easily.

Tell that to the many teams who go undefeated in all those 'playoff' games you speak of and then get hosed at the end. At least in the NFL, you leave it out on the field.

I seriously doubt you're even a true sports fan after reading a post like that.
 

destrekor

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meh.
The BCS system could use some revamping, but in all, I prefer NCAA Football far and away more than NFL. Ugh I hate the NFL.

I see a better sport presentation with college than I will ever see at Pro. It's not longer a good sporting event at the NFL level, rather it's an entertainment event. I won't get into the reasons I see it like that, but the way it is coached and played, mainly because of the players, it kills it for me.
I cannot watch pro football, but I'll always enjoying watching Big 10 football.
 

destrekor

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Bingo.

And your last paragraph shows how SEC keeps it's "strongest conference" label. They all schedule 2-3 cream puff OOC games every year and the media rides their nut sacks. It's pathetic.

That's why I loved OSU scheduling USC and Navy this year (was going to be Army, aka Westpoint), and USC last year. Sadly, they had to go and lose to USC both years, and somehow we lost to Purdue this year, but alas, overall we had a better season this year and Pryor did some learning as the season progressed, except when he forgot to learn.
Hopefully we show up to the Rose Bowl with a team that wants to play ball with their A game. OSU shows consistently when they aren't making mistakes they are excellent, sadly the mistakes keep happening.
 

mjquilly

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So you love automatically excluding half the teams? It's asinine. I bet you're a fan of a team in an AQ conference. Pull your head out of the clouds. You're engulfed with all the media bias the BCS wants to feed you.

Look at how they paired up TCU vs. Boise State. They didn't want a non-AQ team to embarrass an AQ team like Utah did last year and Boise did a few years ago. BCS is bogus.

hmmm, media bias FOR the BCS? All I ever hear is we need a playoff system...

I agree that the TCU vs BSU matchup sucks.

I would be in favor of a plus one system though. It would not detract from the regular season, and force the big schools (and little ones too) to play one more decent non-conference game.
 

BChico

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Most alumni will watch their alma mater regardless of the BCS.

I never really understand why people compare college football to professional sports. The NCAA was established for students, alumni and family, not for outsiders.
 

GlacierFreeze

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hmmm, media bias FOR the BCS? All I ever hear is we need a playoff system...

I see bias for BCS much more. And by media, I'm mainly talking about TV media. Most of them have their hands in the pockets of the BCS and actively promote it even when they look like fools doing it. Some of them look so dumb when doing so, it's beyond pathetic. lol

I think you're probably talking about internet and maybe newspapers arguing for playoff and I'd agree with that, TV not so much.
 

Svnla

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Bingo.

And your last paragraph shows how SEC keeps it's "strongest conference" label. They all schedule 2-3 cream puff OOC games every year and the media rides their nut sacks. It's pathetic.


And other conferences/schools are not doing the very same thing? Let see, just pick out a few teams.

Ohio State (Big 10) = Toledo, New Mexico State

Texas (Big 12) = Louisiana Monroe, UCF

Georgia Tech (ACC) = Jacksonville State

VT (ACC) = Marshall

TCU (Mountain West) = Texas State

and so on....SEC is not the only conference that plays "easy" out of conference schedule.
 
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I see bias for BCS much more. And by media, I'm mainly talking about TV media. Most of them have their hands in the pockets of the BCS and actively promote it even when they look like fools doing it. Some of them look so dumb when doing so, it's beyond pathetic. lol

I see ESPN analysts and anchors mention playoffs for college constantly.

It's coming in some form. The current contract for the BCS has to run out first though.

My biggest complaint with the BCS right now is why the hell did they give the TV coverage to Fox? They don't cover any college games during the regular season and their NFL guys just don't have the knowledge of the college game to cover it effectively because they spend all of their time with the NFL except for a couple of weeks in December and January.
 

slsmnaz

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Bingo.

And your last paragraph shows how SEC keeps it's "strongest conference" label. They all schedule 2-3 cream puff OOC games every year and the media rides their nut sacks. It's pathetic.

why is it not fair when the teams that are getting "left out of the BCS" get to play a schedule full of them?
 
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