I am getting circumcised tomorrow [110 DAY UPDATE!]

[MrsBugi]

Thank you for being courageous enough to share your story with us, TitanDiddly.

I wholeheartedly agree males should not be circumcised. My husband is not, thank goodness, and if we ever have any male children they will remain uncut as well. I've heard the sensation is remarkably lower for those who are circumcised, which is such a shame. A circumcized penis becomes hard and rubbery, lessening sensation even more, compared to an uncircumcized penis, which remains soft, sensitive, and well-lubricated thanks to the foreskin.

I am sorry for your loss, but hope others can learn from this. Best wishes to you.

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: EatSpam

Originally posted by: moshquerade
our biggest difference on this issue is that i have nothing against someone who is circumsized or someone who is not. they both work.

Actually, I have nothing against people who are circumcised. Unfortunately, being an American born during a circumcision happy time, I belong to that club.

I do have something against people who push parents to circumcise their children, except when there is a bonafide medical reason and all less invasive treatment paths have been tried. I also can't stand doctors, like the one TitanDiddly had, who downplay circumcision as no big deal - from just his experience, it isn't something to be taken lightly.

no one should be pushed into it. i haven't heard of this happening actually. if a parent doesn't want a child circumsized i cannot see that a doc would still do it or pressure them to do it.

and for the record, Titan's experience is in the minority. let's not lose sight of reality here. while i wish it turned out better for him i think circumcisions later on in life carry more of a risk.

Docs pushing circs, docs doing circs without consent, etc.... its all available for search by Google. Up until the early 1970's, parents didn't even sign a consent form for circumcision and many hospitals had a universal circ policy. They just did them without asking. It only stopped when a Jewish family sued because they want their baby cut by a mohel. And don't cry shens - Google it for yourself if you don't believe me.

And its not just doctors... my in-laws were redfaced screaming at us when they heard we weren't going to cut our son. (They asked, we didn't offer the information.) Some people can't deal with that kind of pressure.

 

[Babbles]

That's rough to hear about what you are going through.

I would think, though, that much of your discomfort is related to your age (i.e. not being a newborn) and the medical condition. I would believe those of us circumcised at birth do not have the massive discomfort that you seem to have.

Personally I have never really given any thought about if I was to get married have a son if he would be circumcised or not. It would depend on what the mother thought and balancing the pros and cons. I would have to have a child that was not circumcised then in later have a condition much like the OP which would require it; then again to do get the circumcision as a medical precaution could be an overkill.

 

[lyssword]

yeah wtf is it anyone's business wheter or not part of your son's dick is going to b cut off? geez.. where is privacy?

 

[EatSpam]

Originally posted by: lyssword
yeah wtf is it anyone's business wheter or not part of your son's dick is going to b cut off? geez.. where is privacy?

So is it ok to beat your kids? Where's the privacy there? What if you want to cut off your kid's fingers? Where is the privacy there. I tell you, the law gets way too much into our personal lives, I mean geez, where is privacy?

 

[Babbles]

The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Thank you for being courageous enough to share your story with us, TitanDiddly.

I wholeheartedly agree males should not be circumcised. My husband is not, thank goodness, and if we ever have any male children they will remain uncut as well. I've heard the sensation is remarkably lower for those who are circumcised, which is such a shame. A circumcized penis becomes hard and rubbery, lessening sensation even more, compared to an uncircumcized penis, which remains soft, sensitive, and well-lubricated thanks to the foreskin.

I am sorry for your loss, but hope others can learn from this. Best wishes to you.

Thank you.

And a pre-thank you from any male children you may have.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Babbles
The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

The breast comparison is that people are willing to cut off a part of their son's body which is a major sexual organ because there is an off-the-wall chance that it could have problems later. I think the incidence of breast cancer is about equal to or more common than foreskin problems. What he's trying to say is that it makes as much sense to remove the breast tissue as to remove the foreskin by that argument. Both are a major loss- the difference is that the male who was circumcised will never know what he lost.

Beleive me, I have looked into it, and there is so much more that I could have done before being circumcised. To be completely honest, I was overly confident of my own understanding about the procedure. The doctor picked up on that and decided not to tell me anything about what was going to happen, and through that, I lost my foreskin. If he had told me how much I was going to lose, there's no way I would have gone through with it without some serious reservations, in addition to exhausting all other avenues first.

 

[MrsBugi]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Thank you for being courageous enough to share your story with us, TitanDiddly.

I wholeheartedly agree males should not be circumcised. My husband is not, thank goodness, and if we ever have any male children they will remain uncut as well. I've heard the sensation is remarkably lower for those who are circumcised, which is such a shame. A circumcized penis becomes hard and rubbery, lessening sensation even more, compared to an uncircumcized penis, which remains soft, sensitive, and well-lubricated thanks to the foreskin.

I am sorry for your loss, but hope others can learn from this. Best wishes to you.

Thank you.

And a pre-thank you from any male children you may have.

From your posts, TitanDiddly, you sound like a remarkably thoughtful, humble, and introspective gentleman. You and any male children I may have are very welcome, and I do wish you all the best. I wish you the most pleasure and happiness in life possible, take care and be well.

 

[skyking]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Babbles
The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

The breast comparison is that people are willing to cut off a part of their son's body which is a major sexual organ because there is an off-the-wall chance that it could have problems later. I think the incidence of breast cancer is about equal to or more common than foreskin problems. What he's trying to say is that it makes as much sense to remove the breast tissue as to remove the foreskin by that argument. Both are a major loss- the difference is that the male who was circumcised will never know what he lost.

Beleive me, I have looked into it, and there is so much more that I could have done before being circumcised. To be completely honest, I was overly confident of my own understanding about the procedure. The doctor picked up on that and decided not to tell me anything about what was going to happen, and through that, I lost my foreskin. If he had told me how much I was going to lose, there's no way I would have gone through with it without some serious reservations, in addition to exhausting all other avenues first.

From your initial post on the medical complications that started this whole thing, I thought you had exhausted all the other possibilities and avenues already. I am sorry to hear that you are troubled by the outcome, but I wish to thank you again for posting this. Among the YAGT's and OMGWTFBBQ and YTMND, there are a few worthwhile OPs like this one.

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: MrsBugi

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Thank you for being courageous enough to share your story with us, TitanDiddly.

I wholeheartedly agree males should not be circumcised. My husband is not, thank goodness, and if we ever have any male children they will remain uncut as well. I've heard the sensation is remarkably lower for those who are circumcised, which is such a shame. A circumcized penis becomes hard and rubbery, lessening sensation even more, compared to an uncircumcized penis, which remains soft, sensitive, and well-lubricated thanks to the foreskin.

I am sorry for your loss, but hope others can learn from this. Best wishes to you.

Thank you.

And a pre-thank you from any male children you may have.

From your posts, TitanDiddly, you sound like a remarkably thoughtful, humble, and introspective gentleman. You and any male children I may have are very welcome, and I do wish you all the best. I wish you the most pleasure and happiness in life possible, take care and be well.

Thank you again. Just watch out when I decide to throw tact out the window- which is fairly often. :Q

 

[MrsBugi]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: MrsBugi

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: MrsBugi
Thank you for being courageous enough to share your story with us, TitanDiddly.

I wholeheartedly agree males should not be circumcised. My husband is not, thank goodness, and if we ever have any male children they will remain uncut as well. I've heard the sensation is remarkably lower for those who are circumcised, which is such a shame. A circumcized penis becomes hard and rubbery, lessening sensation even more, compared to an uncircumcized penis, which remains soft, sensitive, and well-lubricated thanks to the foreskin.

I am sorry for your loss, but hope others can learn from this. Best wishes to you.

Thank you.

And a pre-thank you from any male children you may have.

From your posts, TitanDiddly, you sound like a remarkably thoughtful, humble, and introspective gentleman. You and any male children I may have are very welcome, and I do wish you all the best. I wish you the most pleasure and happiness in life possible, take care and be well.

Thank you again. Just watch out when I decide to throw tact out the window- which is fairly often. :Q

We all have our moments, I can sympathize with that. Either way, it is good to have you around! :wine:

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Babbles
The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

The breast comparison is that people are willing to cut off a part of their son's body which is a major sexual organ because there is an off-the-wall chance that it could have problems later. I think the incidence of breast cancer is about equal to or more common than foreskin problems. What he's trying to say is that it makes as much sense to remove the breast tissue as to remove the foreskin by that argument. Both are a major loss- the difference is that the male who was circumcised will never know what he lost.

Beleive me, I have looked into it, and there is so much more that I could have done before being circumcised. To be completely honest, I was overly confident of my own understanding about the procedure. The doctor picked up on that and decided not to tell me anything about what was going to happen, and through that, I lost my foreskin. If he had told me how much I was going to lose, there's no way I would have gone through with it without some serious reservations, in addition to exhausting all other avenues first.

From your initial post on the medical complications that started this whole thing, I thought you had exhausted all the other possibilities and avenues already. I am sorry to hear that you are troubled by the outcome, but I wish to thank you again for posting this. Among the YAGT's and OMGWTFBBQ and YTMND, there are a few worthwhile OPs like this one.

Yeah, there's a lot of things to try that I didn't- steroid creams to make the skin grow probably would have worked fine. The problem is, I'm fairly decisive, and the doctor's encouragement(or desire to make $5k) backed up my decision to have it done. One of the things that contributed to this is that I had the whole thing done over a 3-week christmas break- so I didn't want to take the creams back with me, find out they weren't going to work, then have another 6 months before I could go back to the doctor and try the next thing. In retrospect, that would have been a much better idea.

When I go back at the end of this month, I'm going to plead with the doctor to make sure that all his patients know what they're going to have happen to them before they go under the knife. I doubt he was circumcised later in life, so he probably doesn't have any first-hand, or even second-hand experience with how devastating it is.

 

[PlatinumGold]

also, i personally believe an uncircumcised person will have a more difficult time raping a girl than a circumcised person.

for a non circumcised person dry penetration is almost impossible because it is so painful.

 

[Manuwell]

pics ?

 

[Codewiz]

I guess I am VERY lucky my grandfather was a doctor and did not allow me to circumsized. He was completely against it because he knew it served no purpse except our culture.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Babbles
The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

The breast comparison is that people are willing to cut off a part of their son's body which is a major sexual organ because there is an off-the-wall chance that it could have problems later. I think the incidence of breast cancer is about equal to or more common than foreskin problems. What he's trying to say is that it makes as much sense to remove the breast tissue as to remove the foreskin by that argument. Both are a major loss- the difference is that the male who was circumcised will never know what he lost.

Beleive me, I have looked into it, and there is so much more that I could have done before being circumcised. To be completely honest, I was overly confident of my own understanding about the procedure. The doctor picked up on that and decided not to tell me anything about what was going to happen, and through that, I lost my foreskin. If he had told me how much I was going to lose, there's no way I would have gone through with it without some serious reservations, in addition to exhausting all other avenues first.

It is still asinine and I think you have an overly strong bias for this crazy comparison because of your situation. I do not want to belittle what you have gone through, so don't take it as that, but I don't think those are anywhere near fair comparisons and to take them as being the equivalent is rather ignorant.

Primarily I don't think anybody would consider circumcision a "major loss" when compared to remove an entire breast. You didn't get your entire penis removed, did you? A more apt comparison would be castration, not circumcision.

Furthermore it is not only just a medical thing, but an aesthetic and cultural thing. People have been performing circumcisions for, most literally, thousands of years. Cutting off a girl's breast is hardly some cultural tradition (at least in the western sense). Ditto with that crazy comparison with cutting off a pinky; I didn't realize there was a cultural tradition of pinky amputation or if there was a health reason to do so. Again, a bone-headed comparison.

Finally having the foreskin removed via a circumcision on a 'healthy' penis is entirely different than a medical required removal due to a health issue. Of course you are going to have some side effects. As such to compare the two situations (i.e. circumcision at birth as opposed to a medical procedure much later in life) is hardly appropriate.

Again you have my empathy for what happened to you, basically being in the position where you did not have all the information and/or had no choice - so to speak - makes it all the worse. However that should not be grounds for people to make fallacious comparisons just to make some outrageous and senseless point.
Apples to oranges as they say. . .

 

[TitanDiddly]

Originally posted by: Babbles

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly

Originally posted by: Babbles
The whole comparison of circumcision with cutting off a girl's breast or cutting off a finger is totally asinine and rather fallacious. I don't even understand how you people could draw comparisons like that.

The breast comparison is that people are willing to cut off a part of their son's body which is a major sexual organ because there is an off-the-wall chance that it could have problems later. I think the incidence of breast cancer is about equal to or more common than foreskin problems. What he's trying to say is that it makes as much sense to remove the breast tissue as to remove the foreskin by that argument. Both are a major loss- the difference is that the male who was circumcised will never know what he lost.


Beleive me, I have looked into it, and there is so much more that I could have done before being circumcised. To be completely honest, I was overly confident of my own understanding about the procedure. The doctor picked up on that and decided not to tell me anything about what was going to happen, and through that, I lost my foreskin. If he had told me how much I was going to lose, there's no way I would have gone through with it without some serious reservations, in addition to exhausting all other avenues first.

It is still asinine and I think you have an overly strong bias for this crazy comparison because of your situation. I do not want to belittle what you have gone through, so don't take it as that, but I don't think those are anywhere near fair comparisons and to take them as being the equivalent is rather ignorant.

Primarily I don't think anybody would consider circumcision a "major loss" when compared to remove an entire breast. You didn't get your entire penis removed, did you? A more apt comparison would be castration, not circumcision.

Furthermore it is not only just a medical thing, but an aesthetic and cultural thing. People have been performing circumcisions for, most literally, thousands of years. Cutting off a girl's breast is hardly some cultural tradition (at least in the western sense). Ditto with that crazy comparison with cutting off a pinky; I didn't realize there was a cultural tradition of pinky amputation or if there was a health reason to do so. Again, a bone-headed comparison.

Finally having the foreskin removed via a circumcision on a 'healthy' penis is entirely different than a medical required removal due to a health issue. Of course you are going to have some side effects. As such to compare the two situations (i.e. circumcision at birth as opposed to a medical procedure much later in life) is hardly appropriate.

Again you have my empathy for what happened to you, basically being in the position where you did not have all the information and/or had no choice - so to speak - makes it all the worse. However that should not be grounds for people to make fallacious comparisons just to make some outrageous and senseless point.
Apples to oranges as they say. . .

The whole reason for the breast comarison is because it's more severe. Yes, it's different. A girl who had a double mastectomy at birth is obviously going to be made fun of and suffer other psychological impact that will directly affect her. However, a boy who was circumcised in birth is in 'the norm' so to say, and it's hidden in his pants. The comparison was made to point out that if it weren't the norm, it would be just as rediculous as the double mastectomy. Even though the boy will never know what he lost- because it is a direct loss of sensation- the loss is still huge, and as far as I know, I'm the only person on this board who can testify to that. There is literally no gain in exchange for this huge loss. Sure, it cured my foreskin tightness problem- but if I had known, that could have been cured with some $10 steroid cream and time.

My motive here is to educate- to convince future parents to not circumcise their male children. Right now, the majority of boys are circumcised at birth, and it's just not right. A decision is being made for them that has a huge effect on them- but one that they'll never know. Just because someone will never know the extent to which they've been wronged doesn't justify the crime. And all this is done for cultural and aesthetic reasons.

 

[Synomenon]

Originally posted by: TitanDiddly
Even though the boy will never know what he lost- because it is a direct loss of sensation- the loss is still huge, and as far as I know, I'm the only person on this board who can testify to that. There is literally no gain in exchange for this huge loss. Sure, it cured my foreskin tightness problem- but if I had known, that could have been cured with some $10 steroid cream and time.

My motive here is to educate- to convince future parents to not circumcise their male children. Right now, the majority of boys are circumcised at birth, and it's just not right. A decision is being made for them that has a huge effect on them- but one that they'll never know. Just because someone will never know the extent to which they've been wronged doesn't justify the crime. And all this is done for cultural and aesthetic reasons.

I had phimosis as well and was circumcised when I was 17. I too regret having it done because of the massive loss of sensation. I wish that parents here would give their sons the option instead of automatically having it done after birth. The only positive thing that has come out of circumcision for me is that I don't have phimosis anymore. The cut look certainly has grown on me, but aesthetic and cultural reasons aren't enough to have this procedure done.

 

[leon94]

You are very unlucky.

You should of not done it because its better with it!

 

[Turkish]

I got circumcised as a teenager. I did NOT experience any loss of sensation as you did.

 

[leon94]

Originally posted by: Turkish
I got circumcised as a teenager. I did NOT experience any loss of sensation as you did.

Shens

 

[Alchemist99]

I would imagine being circumcised as a baby and as an adult are two completely different things, as a baby the penis is probably much more resilient, it is still in a growth phase and pre-pubescent, my thinking is this allows for much more sensation to return.
Sorry for your loss

 

[Doboji]

WTF?!?!?!

Why would someone have a circumcision at this point in your life? Seems pretty fvcking stupid...

As for the debate about loss of sensation... My penis is circumcized.. sex feels

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeaaaat

So I really dont care...

-Max

 

[leon94]

Originally posted by: Doboji
WTF?!?!?!

Why would someone have a circumcision at this point in your life? Seems pretty fvcking stupid...

As for the debate about loss of sensation... My penis is circumcized.. sex feels

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrreeeeaaaat

So I really dont care...

-Max

It feels even better when you have not had a circumcision