i am more impressed with the athlon 64 every day.

[hans007]

so im finally setting up my athlon 64 2600+ and i figure i should run prime95 to test it.

i put the heatsink on. boot up etc. damn it keeps failing why?


OH its because hans is an idiot, and the heatsink was stuck on the retention clip and 80% of it wasnt touching the cpu.


the cpu.. ran windows pretty well, it would only die about a minute into prime 95. i am pretty sure any athlon xp woulda died instantly just not having the whole heatsink touching it.

no blue screens , no lock ups.

 

[Accord99]

AMD has implemented thermal throttling in their newest chips. Guess they must have watched Tom's infamous video.

 

[Regs]

Why do I only see innovations such as these mentioned from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

 

[WarCon]

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

I really hope this was sarcastism as AMD is doing what Intel (thermal throttling) has done for a few years now.

P.S. Infamous video is of P4 and Athlon both having their heatsinks removed and the Intel was fine while the Athlon burst into flame.

 

[Regs]

Originally posted by: WarCon

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

I really hope this was sarcastism as AMD is doing what Intel (thermal throttling) has done for a few years now.

P.S. Infamous video is of P4 and Athlon both having their heatsinks removed and the Intel was fine while the Athlon burst into flame.

Oh of course

 

[Alptraum]

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these mentioned from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

Uh...Intel has had thermal throttoling for awhile. And an auto shutdown feature since the P3...

 

[Regs]

And of course, the flame bait triumphs again.

 

[Rectalfier]

Athlon 64 2600+?

I thought there were only Athlon 64 3000+ and 3200+. You must mean Athlon XP 2600.

 

[redhatlinux]

IIRC its an Engineering Sample, thats why its recognized as a 2600.

 

[hans007]

i'd also say that this runs a lot cooler than any of my socket A chips ever did.

my cooler isnt even copper inlay its just an $8 all aluminum cooler. yes the $8 cooler is back and they work great!

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: WarCon

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

I really hope this was sarcastism as AMD is doing what Intel (thermal throttling) has done for a few years now.

P.S. Infamous video is of P4 and Athlon both having their heatsinks removed and the Intel was fine while the Athlon burst into flame.

Oh of course

This video?
It is nice to finally have some anti-suicide measures in the CPU now. I lost a Tbird 900 to a bad heatsink installation.

 

[NFS4]

I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow, that's awesome that the motherboard can control the fan accordingly also. Booting at 800Mhz with no fan is pretty awesome though. What's its temp at 800Mhz?

Do you know if that also increases CPU life?

 

[oldfart]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Damn, that is nice! I get so sick of fixed Mhz CPU, GPU, fixed rpm fans, fixed Vcore. Its like always having your pedal to the floor even when you are sitting in traffic or at a stop sign. Nice to see a more intelligent setup! It stinks that I'm so happy with my current P4 setup. I'd LOVE to try out one of these setups. Very nice.

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: oldfart

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Damn, that is nice! I get so sick of fixed Mhz CPU, GPU, fixed rpm fans, fixed Vcore. Its like always having your pedal to the floor even when you are sitting in traffic or at a stop sign. Nice to see a more intelligent setup! It stinks that I'm so happy with my current P4 setup. I'd LOVE to try out one of these setups. Very nice.

i think the dynamic cool and quiet works on all athlon 64 C revisions.


too bad mine is a B version sample. but when the newer ones get cheaper i'll probably upgrade, sounds like power now ! but super advanced.

 

[Accord99]

Originally posted by: oldfart
Damn, that is nice! I get so sick of fixed Mhz CPU, GPU, fixed rpm fans, fixed Vcore. Its like always having your pedal to the floor even when you are sitting in traffic or at a stop sign. Nice to see a more intelligent setup! It stinks that I'm so happy with my current P4 setup. I'd LOVE to try out one of these setups. Very nice.

Intel and AMD chips already implement Halt when in idle, which already greatly reduces power consumption. There is still a difference in power consumption, but its in the order of maybe 5-15W, which is still nice to have but not the same as having the pedal to the floor when stopped.

 

[oldfart]

There is a big difference between a HLT instruction and variable CPU speed and Vcore. Variable speed CPU fan is not hard to do. I've had that for awhile.

 

[Tetsuo]

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow...

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow...

For more info on "Quiet N Cool", check out Xbit's article on the Athlon64 3200+

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3200_4.html

Heat dissipation at 800MHz is 35W

 

[hans007]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow...

For more info on "Quiet N Cool", check out Xbit's article on the Athlon64 3200+

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3200_4.html

Heat dissipation at 800MHz is 35W

wow i just got hit by a bit of nostalgia. i remember when the k6-233 came out. 3.2 volts! 35 watts. an OVEN they called it. and i used to post on usenet and anand would post there too!


how times change...

 

[InlineFive]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow...

For more info on "Quiet N Cool", check out Xbit's article on the Athlon64 3200+

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3200_4.html

Heat dissipation at 800MHz is 35W

wow i just got hit by a bit of nostalgia. i remember when the k6-233 came out. 3.2 volts! 35 watts. an OVEN they called it. and i used to post on usenet and anand would post there too!


how times change...

Anand doesn't do much now...

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: hans007

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: Tetsuo

Originally posted by: NFS4
I love my Athlon 64 3200+

I have the dynamic clocking "Quiet N Cool" technology enabled on my Asus K8V motherboard and with AMD's latest Athlon64 driver.

This is the first desktop chip that I've had (or that I've seen that does this) automatically during normal usage.

It boots up at 800MHz (200x4) and I think 1.2v. It is cool as hell at the speed and still plenty fast for desktop use. Also at this speed, the fan on my Zalman CNPS7000-AlCu stops completely. No noise there.

As the workload increases, you can see it increase to 1800MHz (200x9). The voltage also increases. And it will fluctuate depending on the workload.

Then when the system goes commando and asks for maximum power, it goes to the default 2GHz (200x10). So, I'll be browsing the web at 800MHz, drop back to the desktop and launch NBA Live 2004 and the CPU goes from 800MHz straight to 2GHz in a flash.

I've sat back and watched this all unfold before my eyes with CPU-Z as you can see the CPU clock, multiplier, and voltage all change in real time.


AMD rocks

Wow...

For more info on "Quiet N Cool", check out Xbit's article on the Athlon64 3200+

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/athlon64-3200_4.html

Heat dissipation at 800MHz is 35W

wow i just got hit by a bit of nostalgia. i remember when the k6-233 came out. 3.2 volts! 35 watts. an OVEN they called it. and i used to post on usenet and anand would post there too!


how times change...

Hehe. I remember when my Celeron 300A had to get 2.05V to run at 450MHz on my Abit BH6

 

[PrinceXizor]

Hmmm....late comer to the hardware scene myself, the earliest computer "triumph" I had was software related. Freeing up enough of the 640K to run everything PLUS 16-bit sound in Wing Commander 2 on my grandfather's 486. Let's see, my model number is 486 vs. your Celeron 300A, must mean mine's faster

P-X

 

[XBoxLPU]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: WarCon

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

I really hope this was sarcastism as AMD is doing what Intel (thermal throttling) has done for a few years now.

P.S. Infamous video is of P4 and Athlon both having their heatsinks removed and the Intel was fine while the Athlon burst into flame.

Oh of course

This video?
It is nice to finally have some anti-suicide measures in the CPU now. I lost a Tbird 900 to a bad heatsink installation.

Complete with porno music!

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: Alptraum

Originally posted by: Regs
Why do I only see innovations such as these mentioned from AMD and not Intel? Since Intel does rank on top of most of the charts, we must not be glorifying Intel's innovations like we do AMD's. Or simply, Intel does not have any.

Pardon my generalization.

Uh...Intel has had thermal throttoling for awhile. And an auto shutdown feature since the P3...

Clock throttling due to heat and "Quiet n Cool" are two, totally different technologies.

The P4's clock throttling slows down the CPU when the core gets too hot.
"Quiet n Cool" dynamically clocks the core (up or down) depending on work load in real time during normal usage