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Nutdotnet

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You're a moron for dating a 20 year-old chick for the long-term.

She's done with you dude. Sure, it's going to suck, but time does heal.

Here's my best advice I can give: BE DONE WITH HER TOO! Cancel your plans and quit acting like a nancy-boy.

I'll bet you a 10-spot that if you give her the "I don't give a schit" attitude that she's going to try to make things work...she's going to want what she thinks she can't have....that's young girls for ya.

So do it...but only do it so you can have a couple decent fvcks before she's truly out the door for good.

It's over bro, sorry.
 

scott916

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A similar situation happened to me, met an amazing girl when she was 18, were DEEPLY in love for two years, and then my mom got cancer. Through all of that and the resulting events, the strain on our relationship was just too much, and she decided it was time for her to experience what the world has to offer. You're going to have to let her, man, or else she's going to end up breaking your heart/cheating.

She's too young to be attached, you know it and so does she. Once she makes up her mind that it's over, there is literally no turning back. It's been well over a year since I broke up with my ex, but I still think about her every day. You're going to also, just move on.
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
first, get ahold of yourself, and realize you will survive this. secondly, don't make yourself ill over this - take care of #1 - YOU!

also, give her space and not a guilt trip. she is only 20 years old, and if it really was/is that good between you she may come back if you don't act all pathetic and needy.

you must have a friend or family member who has a shoulder you can lean on. utilize them. things will get better. trust me.

Indeed.

You also need someone like myself or yourself in time to tell you your being such a big pussy about it. Seriously man. Take care of yourself. Eat, go exercise (I rock climb and love it also, find another sport), talk to your mates. If you can't talk to your mates they aren't your mates period. You have gone through 5 serious relationships and you have gotten over them. You WILL GET OVER THIS ONE.

If it was meant to be it will be :thumbsup:

Again bitch slap yourself and stop being a pussy about it.

<- heart broken 17months ago, 9months after break up of crap and I felt so low, hurt back quite seriously and couldn't do the sports that I love with a passion and some bordering on obsession...pulled myself back up and I am loving life now :thumbsup:

Be strong, positive and keep your head up high. You will have some sh!tty times but you will get over it

Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
These responses are exactly what i was worried about. Not that you aren't trying to be helpful. But i just can't let her go. Not when i feel i might be able to hold on.

Hope is so powerful. I just need a little fvcking hope. God, i want this to work so badly. And it can. She just needs to grow up a bit.

WHy couldn't she grow up and not break up.

Seriously stop being such a pussy about it. You need to get over it and stop calling her and speaking to her. If it was meant to be it will be.

Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: ghost recon88
I just went through something a little similar, and I still have a hard time accepting it's over. If it's meant to be, she'll want you back shortly. If she doesn't, well then, question answered. One of the worst things I learned, is that no matter the urge to converse with her, either online or on a phone, don't! It will just keep giving you false hope, and make you feel even more devastated and saddened.

Well if you dont converse at all, then how do you get back together?

The point is to get over her. Not to get back together.

Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Let me add one thing that i see i didn't write in the opening post. She said she wanted to break up, but that she wanted to grow as friends and then hopefully get back together. She says that she wants to be with me eventually but that she needs to mature.

That is why i think we dont need to break up. Because she CAN grow and she can have everything she wants. It doens't have to be like that. She can be more self aware of the things that are important in life. Love and someone close to you IS important. And what we have is very special.

Dude by this she means to bang lots of guys and experience life being single. NOTHING wrong with that. Shes 20 and learning to be on her own and be at College being single.

Just don't speak to her. And she'll come back to you if she wants you. Backup boyfriend for when things hit the fan.

My ex (4yr relationship) called me about 4 weeks ago. We hadn't spoken to each other in 14months. She called to apologise about things :thumbsup:. I'm over her and have seen quite a few girls during this time. I'd take her back and I am trying to hook back up with her but if we don't get back together f0ck it. SOOOO many girls out there

Btw the optimist in me kept my old phone even though I got a new phone. I decided to cancel the contract and she calls me about 5weeks before it was suppose to be cancelled. HOW optimistic was I?! .

You need to hear the hard facts, not some sugar coated BS. A lot of guys have had it so much tougher. Just read through the other thread about how some girls have treated other guys. NOW that is some harsh stuff.

Koing
 

BudAshes

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Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
How can I get rid of the dog? It is a good, loving, dog. It can't just be gotten rid of.

If its a nice loving dog somebody will want it. Depending on what kind of dog it is(meaning if its not some hulking giant dog) you could put an add on craigslist or in the paper. Just be convincing on how awesome it is and somebody will want it. You said you can't take care of it so why keep it where it wont be taken care of and loved?
 

wheresmybacon

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Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Let me add one thing that i see i didn't write in the opening post. She said she wanted to break up, but that she wanted to grow as friends and then hopefully get back together. She says that she wants to be with me eventually but that she needs to mature.

That is why i think we dont need to break up. Because she CAN grow and she can have everything she wants. It doens't have to be like that. She can be more self aware of the things that are important in life. Love and someone close to you IS important. And what we have is very special.
Look man I know this is absolutely awful - I've been there - but she said she wanted to break up. Let her go.

If she comes back, it's going to be because you let her go. I promise it won't be because you begged and pleaded and reasoned her out of her original decision.
 

ed0ggyd0gg

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Let her go. If you really are worth it, she'll notice the loss and might give you a call in the future. But as of now, you are single, so go out there and get some pussy!

There are plenty more women for you to get serious with. 26 is young. You think the world is opening up for her? It's still open for you too, as long as you keep walking through the doors.

Sorry for the cliches. Actually I'm not, but I'm sympathizing.
 

GrantMeThePower

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Originally posted by: edoggydogg
Let her go. If you really are worth it, she'll notice the loss and might give you a call in the future. But as of now, you are single, so go out there and get some pussy!

There are plenty more women for you to get serious with. 26 is young. You think the world is opening up for her? It's still open for you too, as long as you keep walking through the doors.

Sorry for the cliches. Actually I'm not, but I'm sympathizing.

You really hit on something. I don't feel like the world is open to me anymore. I'm 26, have a house, a job I can't leave....i'm stuck. I don't know how i would meet anyone or what I would do.

Couple that with the fact I'm crazy about her...its really hard to let her go.

The New Years thing is kind of a big deal. We have like 5 other couples all planning to go to my house. Everyone has their plans set. I don't know what to do about that either.
 

Chunkee

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Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: edoggydogg
Let her go. If you really are worth it, she'll notice the loss and might give you a call in the future. But as of now, you are single, so go out there and get some pussy!

There are plenty more women for you to get serious with. 26 is young. You think the world is opening up for her? It's still open for you too, as long as you keep walking through the doors.

Sorry for the cliches. Actually I'm not, but I'm sympathizing.

You really hit on something. I don't feel like the world is open to me anymore. I'm 26, have a house, a job I can't leave....i'm stuck. I don't know how i would meet anyone or what I would do.

Couple that with the fact I'm crazy about her...its really hard to let her go.

The New Years thing is kind of a big deal. We have like 5 other couples all planning to go to my house. Everyone has their plans set. I don't know what to do about that either.

call them all, give brief explanation...go out and have fun with some others....

i have been where you are...it sux...many people have...but i can tell you one thing...dwelling on it will only make it worse....

oh yeah, dont get back together with her

jC
 

Koing

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Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: edoggydogg
Let her go. If you really are worth it, she'll notice the loss and might give you a call in the future. But as of now, you are single, so go out there and get some pussy!

There are plenty more women for you to get serious with. 26 is young. You think the world is opening up for her? It's still open for you too, as long as you keep walking through the doors.

Sorry for the cliches. Actually I'm not, but I'm sympathizing.

You really hit on something. I don't feel like the world is open to me anymore. I'm 26, have a house, a job I can't leave....i'm stuck. I don't know how i would meet anyone or what I would do.

Couple that with the fact I'm crazy about her...its really hard to let her go.

The New Years thing is kind of a big deal. We have like 5 other couples all planning to go to my house. Everyone has their plans set. I don't know what to do about that either.

call them all, give brief explanation...go out and have fun with some others....

i have been where you are...it sux...many people have...but i can tell you one thing...dwelling on it will only make it worse....

oh yeah, dont get back together with her

jC

Invite them to your place BUT NOT HER. She wanted to be free so she can be free and plan her New Years Eve party somewhere else.

Ask if your friends know of a single girl that might wan to come :thumbsup:

Koing
 

UberNeuman

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Originally posted by: Koing

Invite them to your place BUT NOT HER. She wanted to be free so she can be free and plan her New Years Eve party somewhere else.

Ask if your friends know of a single girl that might wan to come :thumbsup:

Koing

Very good, Koing:thumbsup:

Like he said, she wants her freedom, then she can go somewhere else....

 

arrfep

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Let me add one thing that i see i didn't write in the opening post. She said she wanted to break up, but that she wanted to grow as friends and then hopefully get back together. She says that she wants to be with me eventually but that she needs to mature.

Translation: She wants to see other people, but she doesn't want YOU to see other people. Just in case she needs something to fall back on.

It's over, bud. Cut off all ties and do your best to move on. It's honestly the best thing you can do for yourself, even if it's the most painful in the short term.


I think I agree with this. I was in and out of this type of thing for a long time and the end result was not good. We split up with that whole highschooler mentality of "well maybe after college it will work out." And yeah, I think there were two parts to that thinking.

1.) She wants to be with other people. Physically or emotionally, whatever. People need
try different things before they can make a decision.

Yeah, it hurts. Let's be frank. Think about the fact that your girlfriend will sleep with someone else. One of the worst feelings ever...because it is a pain that you think you can prevent. The thing you need to understand is that you cannont prevent it. You cannot do anything about this. A surefire way to get someone to defy you is to try harder to restrain them.


2.) We both needed to grow.

You might not realize it now since you seem pretty set in your ways, and you seem to think your life is already decided because you have a job and a house and few outlets to meet people, but perhaps you need to do some growing as well. And it's not the type of thing that you can self analyze and say "Oh, I need to improve myself in this area." It's a journey you go on not becuause you have a reason to do so, it's a journey you go on to find the reason why you're going on the journey. If that makes sense.


So anyway. There was a split near the end of the summer before freshman year of college. The initial pain went away after a week. I was back to normal and interested in other girls by Christmas. We didn't talk much. Hooked up for the following summer. And it was awesome, but did not last. She got into a serious relationship for the last three years of college. There was always a dull ache, you know. You don't think about it all the time, but once in a while it bugs you that this didn't work out.

After college, we did get back together. This time, I was in the best shape of my life, I was happier than in HS, maybe more "dangerous," or whatever. i.e. a more attractive package than 4 years before. So we were together for another 6 months. And you know what...it didn't work. We'd changed.

We still hang out. We still sometimes hook up. I know. It's screwed up. Sometimes it really, really hurts when I think about it not working out. But most times I realize that it never would have worked out.

What is the point of this? LOL...guess it's the long way of saying "you cannot do anything about this situation." Cut the ties. Plenty of us have been in this situation. The best way is to cut ties.

I've always thought there were two main courses of action, each with two possible outcomes, for this type of situation.

ACTION 1: Give here excessive attention. i.e. Be the Super boyfriend, the one every girl wants.
OUTCOME 1A: She gets really sick of you smothering her and this makes matters worse, and things deteriorate into nothing. FAIL.
OUTCOME 1B: She feels bad and decides to try and make it work. You live in an awkard, forced relationship that will be unstable because she will always think about never having gotten to try something else when she wanted. You'll rationalize that it's good, but FAIL.

ACTION 2: Cut off absolutely all contact
OUTCOME 2A: You and her never talk again. End of story. Some would say that's a win, some would say that's a loss.
OUTCOME 2B: You and her don't talk for awhile. You make contact after she's "grown." She brings something new to the table. Realizes how good you were. Make lots of babies. Profit.


There is only one course of action, and it has been repeated here many times in many threads. If she wants space, put the fvckin Milky Way between the two of you.
 

mrrman

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she doesnt sound mature enough to be in a serious relationship...personally I think shes to young and shes feelin tied down and most women dont like that feeling especially at a young age...I think you just have to let her go and get over it and try to meet other people
 

JSFLY

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Let me tell you something you already know. The world ain't all sunshine and rainbows. It is a very mean and nasty place and it will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it. You, me, or nobody is gonna hit as hard as life. But it ain't how hard you hit; it's about how hard you can get hit, and keep moving forward. How much you can take, and keep moving forward. That's how winning is done. Now, if you know what you're worth, then go out and get what you're worth. But you gotta be willing to take the hit, and not pointing fingers saying you ain't where you are because of him, or her, or anybody. Cowards do that and that ain't you. You're better than that!

-Rocky Balboa
 

dartworth

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I rejoice in the wonder of life?s adventure. Regardless of outer circumstances I know there is an inner reality that exudes peace, love, and understanding.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Let me add one thing that i see i didn't write in the opening post. She said she wanted to break up, but that she wanted to grow as friends and then hopefully get back together. She says that she wants to be with me eventually but that she needs to mature.

Translation: She wants to see other people, but she doesn't want YOU to see other people. Just in case she needs something to fall back on.

It's over, bud. Cut off all ties and do your best to move on. It's honestly the best thing you can do for yourself, even if it's the most painful in the short term.

unfortunately this is what i feel she is doing too. she wants her cake and eat it too, at your expense. you need to first get some good, healthy food in you, you will start to see things a bit clearer. if the anxiety and panic attacks continue, go see a psychologist (no psychiatrist) and if needed and you have a decent family doc have him put you on something for acute anxiety like a small dosage of xanax, but be careful not to get addicted to it. it can really help with some of the overwhelming issues of anxiety and depression.

also, like others stated, go to the gym, there is no better medicine and chemical equalization than a good workout.

if you like the dog for the dog keep it, if you like the dog because it reminds you of her, get rid of it.

don't be the one waiting for her call and always be there for her, if she want to "grow up and mature" let her, and let her fall on her face and realize what she lost. you seem like a decent person from the thread so i am sure you will not have problems getting something new in no time.
 

bob4432

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Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
I'll bet you a 10-spot that if you give her the "I don't give a schit" attitude that she's going to try to make things work...she's going to want what she thinks she can't have....that's young girls for ya.

unfortunately this is very accurate. when i was 18 i was an extremely nice guy and would get sh!t on all the time. i had been seeing a psychologist for years anyway for other issues and i explained this to him - and he gave me this advice, don't treat them as good. even a bit disrespectful. and the sad part is is even though i am not that type of guy, i tried if out and my pager (i am 33 now so pagers were the sh!t then) would be blowing up all the time. i could never figure it out, but that is the way it went. many times i would be leaving 1 girls house and on the way back home i would get another page from another chic, so then i would break out my big ass cell phone (remember those brick cell phones we use to carry) and give a call. many times i may see 2-3girls in a night, not hook up with them all but at least get a something worth the trip over.

i could never figure this out but and i actually didn't like it (well i liked the physical part as i was 18, but couldn't comprehend why they liked the d!ckhead version of me vs the nice version) and at that time i was like whatever, but at that point in time i was easily getting more bees with sh!t than honey....chics, especially that age are weird. and this was from girls in many different families and many different incomes from average middle america on up...all over the spectrum
 

michaels

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She doesn't love you man, wake up! She is probably already getting hammered by some frat boy.
 

timosyy

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I've been there. Drop it.

I didn't, it was the same outcome in the end, but painful as fvck in the process. I should have dropped it.
 

winr

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Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: Chunkee
Originally posted by: GrantMeThePower
Originally posted by: edoggydogg
Let her go. If you really are worth it, she'll notice the loss and might give you a call in the future. But as of now, you are single, so go out there and get some pussy!

There are plenty more women for you to get serious with. 26 is young. You think the world is opening up for her? It's still open for you too, as long as you keep walking through the doors.

Sorry for the cliches. Actually I'm not, but I'm sympathizing.

You really hit on something. I don't feel like the world is open to me anymore. I'm 26, have a house, a job I can't leave....i'm stuck. I don't know how i would meet anyone or what I would do.

Couple that with the fact I'm crazy about her...its really hard to let her go.

The New Years thing is kind of a big deal. We have like 5 other couples all planning to go to my house. Everyone has their plans set. I don't know what to do about that either.

call them all, give brief explanation...go out and have fun with some others....

i have been where you are...it sux...many people have...but i can tell you one thing...dwelling on it will only make it worse....

oh yeah, dont get back together with her

jC

Invite them to your place BUT NOT HER. She wanted to be free so she can be free and plan her New Years Eve party somewhere else.

Ask if your friends know of a single girl that might wan to come :thumbsup:

Koing


Oh yeah baby!!

That is what I would do :thumbsup:


Best wishes whatever you do.:sun:


 
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