I am SO confused about headphones...

davidober

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I'm going to buy a used pair of HD555's from a guy on Head-Fi for $80. Does that sound reasonable?

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My budget is $25 to $150

I am buying these headphones to go with my new PC, which will include a Creative Labs X-Fi Fata1ity card. I play all types of games, but primarily Online and single player FPS's

So what do I go with?

USB or non-USB? (What do you call a non-USB headset?)

5.1 surround or simple stereo?

High quality stereo like Breyerdynamics?

Something with a built-in microphone?

Seriously, I'm very, very confused. I definitely want something that will accurately re-create surround sound so I can tell where the bad guys are when they make noise, but I've heard horror stories about some 5.1 and 7.1 "surround" headphones.

Any help here is greatly appreciated.

Thanks much,

David Ober

 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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I would suggest a stereo pair of non-USB headphones.

What style of headphones appeal to you?

Do you know if you want open or closed?
 

Ika

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Definitely do not go with a surround headphone set. Generally, though the reviews may be nice, the sound quality will be rather dismal compared to a quality set of headphones.

In my experience, a set of headphones such as the Beyerdynamic DT770 or the Audio-Technica A900 will recreate surround sound just fine through stereo sound.

The two sets I mentioned above are both around $200 and are out of your budget, but you might be able to stretch that by dropping your Fata1ity down to an Xtreme Music (). you're not really missing out on anything.

For headphones IN your budget, though, I'd suggest the Audio-Technica A500 or A700 (little brothers of the A900), though it's a bit hard to suggest anything else not knowing what you need. The Audio-Technica A-series headphones are excellent all-arounders, though, and have great imaging and soundstage.
 

davidober

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I think I prefer "closed," if by closed you mean the ones that completely cover your ears. I want something that I can use for games, but also for watching movies late at night on my Plasma. For movies, I will connect the headphones to my Niro 1.1 Reference set up.

I will need a long cord (10 feet or so).
 

YOyoYOhowsDAjello

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Closed vs. Open is more about whether sound leaks out / in or not.

With a closed set, you'll be isolated. Open you'll hear what's going around in the room and people in the room will be able to hear what you're listening to.

You can get either version that fits around your ears.

I have a closed set since when I when I'm not bothering anyone I can use my speakers.
 

benplaut

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I use just cheap buds and a standup mic

Anyway, i'd recommend closed, although they will probably be more expensive. There was one in the Hot Deals section for about $30
 
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I will echo the recommendation of the A900s or DT770s, and would add maybe the Sennheiser HD595s, although they're open, they're very popular among headphone enthusiasts. You'll want to get the lower impedence version of any of those three if you're going to go directly from the card.

I really like my A900s. Great sound all around. Also if you do the blu-tak mod it'll make them sound even better. Its cheap and fairly easy to do. Even if you don't they'll still sound great. Unfortunately I haven't heard the DT770s, so I can't really offer much opinion on them, but I know they're recommended quite a bit, especially for what your uses are.

I would personally recommend going for the Xtreme Music over the Fatal1ty version of the X-Fi, as X-Ram doesn't really seem like its going to matter much. Unless you really want the front bay (again not worth it in my opinion) in which case I'd say go for the Platinum. You'd be better off spending the extra money on the headphones, or possibly getting a CMOY amp.
 

jcwagers

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You should be able to find a pair of Sennheiser HD280's for well under $100. They are closed and I've been very happy with mine. There is a Zalman clip on mic that can go on the cord if you need a mic to go with it. I think the Zalman mic is around $7 plus shipping and I'm sure that newegg has it and they probably still have the HD280's in stock too.
 

43st

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Originally posted by: YOyoYOhowsDAjello
Closed vs. Open is more about whether sound leaks out / in or not.

With a closed set, you'll be isolated. Open you'll hear what's going around in the room and people in the room will be able to hear what you're listening to.

You can get either version that fits around your ears.

I have a closed set since when I when I'm not bothering anyone I can use my speakers.

You also have a huge difference in sound stage with closed v. open design. Generally you don't want an open set for gaming. Gaming requires accurate positioning which is pretty much the opposite of what an open design is.
 

adammthompson

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I have Sony MDR-V6, which I like a lot. $75 from B&H.

Some caveats: The pads wear out after a while. Even though they're closed, they don't block out much background noise. And we're boycotting Sony, of course.
 

CP5670

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The Beyer DT250 I have is another solid closed pair that does a lot of things well. They sound excellent with both games and music, are comfortable to wear for long periods and are highly durable. The 80 ohm version can be run out of a soundcard directly. The MSRP is $200 but you can get them for significantly less if you look around a bit. I got mine from an ebay store called Full Compass a year ago for $135.
 

TerryMathews

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I've got two pairs of roughly identical headphones, Sennheiser HD525 and HD535. They're open cans, and super-comfortable. Only real caveat is that they need good power to drive them. Battery-operated devices like my PSP and iPod simply didn't have the power to drive them. They sound great from my Audigy Platinum (Live Drive) and Sherwood 5.1 receiver though. Don't distort either, I can listen at much higher than safe levels without and crackling or static.

Guitar Hero rocks with them.
 

imported_Eriol

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Nobody's mentioned it yet, but I've found that canalphones (by the right vendor) have some very good sound quality. Personally I use the Sennheiser CX 300 model, and I find them to be great. Really cuts out the exterior sound, but aren't hot & confining like closed headphones are. More difficult to find I'll admit, but I've never regretted the purchase.

Here's a link to the product page at Sennheiser.

And I'll admit, canalphones aren't for everybody. Takes a little bit to get used to them, but once you are, they are COMPLETELY comfortable. I have a larger-than-average head size (I'm 6'7", so it DOES come as part of the package), so many over-the-head headphones simply don't fit. These canalphones satisfied me for audio in ways that few others have before, obviously with no "fit" issues for cord length. It comes with 3 different sizes of ear adapters, though the default "medium" size worked for me.

Anyways, look into canalphones as well. I agree that an open-ear design just doesn't work for good audio quality, but canalphones are another way of achieving a closed-environment sound experience without the bulkiness. Now the BEST headphones might be better than the BEST canalphones out there... but these blow all of the open-type, and DEFINITELY all of those crappy earbuds WAY out of the water.
 

AndrewL

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With all these reccomendations (which are mostly all good) im sure your more lost than before. I would say read some of the newbie guides on headphones at head-fi or xtremesystems.

You might wanna start with a budgetish set to get an idea of what you like then buy a better set later. I started with HD201s and I like them alot, great headphones for just 20 bucks. If gaming is a priority look for headphones with a good soundstage (A500, A700, A900, DT770 or 880, HD555 or 595). If you like a balance between music and gaming HD595 or 555 are great as well as HD485.

I would avoid usb headphones as well as surround headphones for reasons mentioned above.
 

Ika

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Originally posted by: Eriol
Nobody's mentioned it yet, but I've found that canalphones (by the right vendor) have some very good sound quality. Personally I use the Sennheiser CX 300 model, and I find them to be great. Really cuts out the exterior sound, but aren't hot & confining like closed headphones are. More difficult to find I'll admit, but I've never regretted the purchase.

Here's a link to the product page at Sennheiser.

And I'll admit, canalphones aren't for everybody. Takes a little bit to get used to them, but once you are, they are COMPLETELY comfortable. I have a larger-than-average head size (I'm 6'7", so it DOES come as part of the package), so many over-the-head headphones simply don't fit. These canalphones satisfied me for audio in ways that few others have before, obviously with no "fit" issues for cord length. It comes with 3 different sizes of ear adapters, though the default "medium" size worked for me.

Anyways, look into canalphones as well. I agree that an open-ear design just doesn't work for good audio quality, but canalphones are another way of achieving a closed-environment sound experience without the bulkiness. Now the BEST headphones might be better than the BEST canalphones out there... but these blow all of the open-type, and DEFINITELY all of those crappy earbuds WAY out of the water.

Canalphones suck for gaming, period. Though I do agree that they sound great for certain purposes, they're probably one of the worst decisions you can make for gaming P), due to their extremely closed soundstage and poor imaging.

Anyway, as AndrewL stated, Head-Fi might be one of the better places to ask about headphones, but the "variety" factor isn't much better. Post a question there and you'll be inundated by headphone recommendations, just like you were here.

Here's a quick breakdown for some price points:

$20 - Sennheiser HD201
$80-100 - Sennheiser HD280 Pro OR Audio-Technica A500
$120 - Audio-Technica A700
$200 - Beyerdynamic DT770 OR Audiotechnica A900

I realize that doesn't really narrow it down much, but since you have such an expensive sound card, you might as well get some higher-quality headphones. If you're looking at the $200 range and are trying to decide between the two I recommended, try flipping a coin D). Honestly, the DT770 and the A900 don't sound all too different; if you really want to know the differences, there are a lot of comparisons between the two, if you're interested.
 

razor2025

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I got a used pair of Audio-Technica A500 for about $70 shipped. It's $100 shipped new at the site. It's great headphone. I hear details on MP3 I never heard on any speakers/headphones I had. It's also great for gaming, as you can hear the feint footsteps/background sounds that usually gets drowned out by my loud logitechs. It isn't closed though, but the cord is rather long. Almost annoyingly so.
 

Zap Brannigan

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If possible test a bunch of headphones out before buying if possible and go with what sounds best to your ears.

The Beyers are a good time and are also great for gamming as well.
 

johnpombrio

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Geez... I bought 2 pair of Zalman 5.1 Surround headphones ZM-RS6F at $50 a pair. They will terrifically well for games and movies. Very comfortable, I have worn them for 7-8 hour stretches of WOW. Only pair of headphones that I have ever really liked or used for long periods. I have them dual plugged into the soundcard output so I can have my speakers running too. Y'know, i ust put in a order for another pair. I will be 80 by the time these all wear out...
 

andrewbabcock

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Downgrade to the Xtreme Music because you won't notice the difference and get a pair of nice headphones in the $200 range. The speakers/headphones are more important than whether or not you get the best card in a line...
 

cr0ssfire

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OP, I've been doing some research myself on the same stuff lately. After several days of scanning over the Head-Fi forums, the top gaming headphone recommendations I found are the Sennheiser HD 595, Beyerdynamic DT770 or possibly DT880, and Audio-Technica A900. Here's a summary of the word on the street I could find:

The Sennheiser HD 595's are open headphones, so they're comfortable to wear for extended periods of time, but they leak sound like sieve. If you're easily disturbed while gaming or are concerned about disturbing others, these may not be the best choice. These are "all-round" headphones, from what people seem to be saying; good for gaming, and musically pretty balanced and pleasant to listen to unless you're a huge basshead. Some people allege that there is a "Sennheiser veil" which makes listening to tracks sound as though there's a curtain standing between you and the band. They also come with a cool headphone holder which clips on vertically or horizontally to a shelf or ledge. You can buy these for about $150.

The Beyerdynamic DT770's have a great deal of bass, which is their primary claim to fame (although the bass can obscure the mids and highs at times). If you love head-crunching bass, then these are what you're looking for. They're closed, so they can get hot, but they're comfortable thanks to their construction and you'll know where your enemies are. Speaking of construction, these headphones are built to survive World War III - the build quality is extremely solid and is not like to be an issue at all. Depending on which model of DT770 you're looking at, you may have to buy an amplifier. I'm honestly not sure about the street price for these.

The Beyerdynamic DT880's, built to last for many years like the DT770's, are extremely "neutral" semi-open headphones. Most headphones tend to emphasize certain things more than others, but the DT880's present sound with very minimal coloration. They are incredibly precise and this is why they are so popular with people who enjoy hearing stuff "as it was meant to be heard" (but this also means that low-quality sound will sound like crap). These headphones, unlike the DT770's, really don't have overwhelming bass or even above-average bass - bass is present, but it is precise and concise rather than big and overwhelming. The DT880's usually come very highly recommended for music listening and gaming as long as you don't mind its somewhat lesser bass. You can pick up a pair of the 2003-era DT880's for $150 - an absolute steal considering the new 2006 models (which I'm told sound more or less the same) sell for much more. If you bought these headphones, you would most definitely have to buy an amplifier - but I'm not sure what inexpensive amplifier you could pair with these to get good sound.

The Audio-Technica A900's are closed headphones which seem to be the favorite gaming headphone of many people because, according to them, it's very easy to pick out where your opponents are. The bass is very present and so are the highs, but the mids are somewhat recessed so these aren't as musically balanced as the HD 595's or DT880's. The isolation for these is said to be very good. The A900's aren't said to be very portable, however, so that's something to consider. You can pick up a set of these at Audiocubes for $169.

Keep in mind that I don't have personal experience with these headphones - that's just a composite of what people over at Head-Fi, who do have a great deal of experience, seem to say. If you'd like more information, surf on over to their site and ask some of their veterans. Given the choice between these, I've almost settled on the Beyer DT880's since they seem pretty win/win as long as you can afford them with a suitable amp, however cheap.
 
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