I am so tired of people asking me if I want "my own kids"

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sdifox

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best answer is "I prefer other people's kids, I get to play with them but don't have to deal with all the work associated with them."
 

thebomb

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It is our basic function. This is why we have feelings such as love and lust, it is all set up so we procreate.
Just because we share many of the same instincts and impulses as animals does not necessarily mean we have to act on them. This is what separates us from other animals.

The fact that the OP is willing to take care of his partner's kids demonstrates that he is a loving and caring human being.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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This is just a personal anecdote, but I think a part of the reason why people ask is because it's biologically programmed, if you follow the evolutionist ideology. We share 98-99% genetic similarities by DNA through phylo/genetic comparisons in cladograms and related ways of gauging evolutionary distances.

I recall back in bio, there was an article that caught my eye about male chimps killing baby chimps that weren't their own and mating with the female. It was a common behavior exerted by most alpha and the upper males. So in retrospect, I get the idea what you're seeing may be the human way of displaying this behavior.

There you go gettin' all sciency and shit. The truth is much simpler, most people can't see/think beyond their own asshole. Taking responsibility and loving someone elses biological offspring is as foreign as pioneering. Only 10% have the guts to step up. OP, welcome to the club.
 

dullard

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I love this phrase (originally intended for adoption), and it would work perfectly for you:

You can give the world another child, or you can give a child another world.

Anyone who stops and listens will see your point. The rest are hopeless and you don't need to worry about them.
 

gaidensensei

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There you go gettin' all sciency and shit. The truth is much simpler, most people can't see/think beyond their own asshole. Taking responsibility and loving someone elses biological offspring is as foreign as pioneering. Only 10% have the guts to step up. OP, welcome to the club.

It sounded reasonable to toss out as random as it can get. Don't think there's any breakthrough research on comparing chimp and human behaviors so I'm talking out of my ass.

Nothing personally against OP, he gets coolness marks imo. Just thinking of answers for his question.
 

LumbergTech

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Yea it is annoying that some people can't comprehend that a child doesn't have to be technically yours to be very important to you.
 

Perknose

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Well a book could be written on the subject, but I will try to paraphrase. As human beings we must pass on our genes in order for our species to survive. It is our basic function. This is why we have feelings such as love and lust, it is all set up so we procreate. Every healthy human male specimen should strive to pass on it's genes. Genetic diversity is what helps species survive.
If you don't procreate and pass on your genetic material you fail.


Socially males who raise offspring which are not there own are looked down upon. Most people in our society will not admit it, because this kind of honesty is looked down upon. No one wants to be a social pariah. The first thing when I read your post and saw “3 kids not my own “ I immediate thought to my self what a wuss!!!. The second thing came to mid was of overweight balding male who has problems attracting women being brainwashed by a single mother of 3 into being the temporary father figure for her kids. A man she could never be attracted to sexually. He is only attractive as means of support. When the kids get to be 15 16 and they start to rebel, the first thing you will hear is “you are not my father” if you try to discipline them your wife?gf? Will say “don't talk to my kids that way”


A good friend of mine was about 24 and met a single mother of 3 she was about 32. No one wanted to say anything to him especially not his family because the didn't want to lose the relationship they had with him. They got married quickly she couldn't wait 6 months later he put on 60lbs and worked 24/7
His wife was glad to see him every time he came home. During the day since she quit her job to stay with the kids, she would meet up with her ex to get what she really needed from him. Lets move 5 years ahead he is even fatter then he was works just as hard wife still cheats on him. All of his friends think he is a wuss but no one wants to say it to his face. His mother and father all smile and want to see their “grand kids” but they admitted to all their friends they are miserable because of this situation.
When I read what you posted I immediate though of him and the giant mistake he made. Never raise kids that are not your own. It just reeks of fat wuss. Pleas don't take personal offence I don't mean to insult anyone. I just really believe that any many that doesn’t have his own genetic offspring is a failure as a man and especially when he raises offspring that are not his. :thumbsdown:

This "good friend of yours" is YOU, isn't it, you unhappy, ignorant loser.
 

monkey333

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some line of crap he pulled out of his ass

As a father of 2 adoptive children, I find this highly offensive. I can safely say I care for my children more than many parents who have had their own biological children. Try and look beyond your pathetic, narrow scope in this world and you may learn something besides what they teach you in World of Warcraft..
 

Dr. Zaus

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As a father of 2 adoptive children, I find this highly offensive. I can safely say I care for my children more than many parents who have had their own biological children. Try and look beyond your pathetic, narrow scope in this world and you may learn something besides what they teach you in World of Warcraft..

As a father of real children, not make-believe pretend children that aren't yours any way, that plays WoW I am highly offended!


Did you know that the the Romans allowed for disownment of your own children; but if you adopted someone into your family you could never be disowned? I agree, adoption is much more of a commitment and adopted parents tend to be much better people, than the average breeder.
 
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monkey333

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As a father of real children, not make-believe pretend children that aren't yours any way, that plays WoW I am highly offended!


Did you know that the the Romans allowed for disownment of your own children; but if you adopted someone into your family you could never be disowned? I agree, adoption is much more of a commitment and adopted parents tend to be much better people, than the average breeder.

So what was I said that offended you as a parent? I was defending my feelings as someone who does not have biological children.
 

chusteczka

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I was not going to say anything but the viewpoint of a man's general failure in life for raising another man's children was asked for an explanation. When that explanation was provided, the guy who gave it was demeaned even though he provided it in a very respectful manner. Here is my explanation for what should be obvious to any "man".

Putting all that abstract biological crap aside, there are more immediate reasons for not taking on the responsibility of raising another man's children.

Women are expensive, kids even more so. A man has a finite amount of resources with which to enjoy life. How an individual man wants to apply those resources is up to him.

A childless woman goes after the most alpha male she can attract. The alpha male, being alpha, spreads his seed in vain glory and moves on. The woman, now with child, needs a man to support her after being kicked to the curb by the preening alpha. At this point, the wanton woman turns her needful attention to the lowly beta wuss whom she previously passed over before as being not good enough for her fine booty and lustful needs. However, beta being beta, is happy with sloppy alpha leftovers. Beta wuss is happy being the nice guy to support, defend, and stand by that fantastic woman who previously turned him down so she could lustfully bend over for alpha in writhing ecstasy.

Beta needs to be a nice wuss to maintain access to the fine booty that was previously off limits. The childless women are not coming his way and he is willing to work his ass off for any scraps he can get. Beta convinces himself she is worth him and that life will be better with her and her children. He works, she spends, the kids need a fatherly figure, discipline, braces, food, and clothing while beta wuss spends his resources raising the property of another man.

Beta wuss may go ahead and support the capricious decisions of the proverbial bitch-in-heat if that is what he has to do in order to get his share of the pie. Men instinctively understand this concept. The beta wuss is hopeless, will never see the point, and is nothing for the alpha to worry about since alpha is busy conquering more women and feeding his ego.

The beta's decision to raise children not his own reinforces the ability for women on a societal level to obtain both the alpha for lustful procreation and the beta for day to day support. Thus reinforcing the American Princess phenomenon of careless decision making and fickle, irresponsible behavior. Beta males not willing to provide for alpha progeny and their needful single mom are demeaned by the used Princess no longer able to attract alpha attention.

The end result is the beta wuss in his lowly stupor is used by society to support the development of the biological alpha traits passed on to the next generation and the general irresponsibility of the Princess.

Society publicly lauds the mighty strength and dependability of the beta as a lofty hero while privately abhorring his spinelessness and lacking self-esteem.

Society has implemented measures to help curb such lascivious behavior with monogamy, DNA tests, and required child-support payments. Meanwhile, it remains an individual's decision whether to remain a cuckold and support such reckless behavior or not.

Don't you ever want kids of your own?



Of course, there are situations in life where it makes sense for a man to raise children not his own, especially if the decision will increase the quality of his life. Loneliness, a desire to teach, the inability to have children, and a means to share his life with a quality woman are a few acceptable reasons and there are many more.
 

Wanescotting

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I was not going to say anything but the viewpoint of a man's general failure in life for raising another man's children was asked for an explanation. When that explanation was provided, the guy who gave it was demeaned even though he provided it in a very respectful manner. Here is my explanation for what should be obvious to any "man".

Putting all that abstract biological crap aside, there are more immediate reasons for not taking on the responsibility of raising another man's children.

Women are expensive, kids even more so. A man has a finite amount of resources with which to enjoy life. How an individual man wants to apply those resources is up to him.

A childless woman goes after the most alpha male she can attract. The alpha male, being alpha, spreads his seed in vain glory and moves on. The woman, now with child, needs a man to support her after being kicked to the curb by the preening alpha. At this point, the wanton woman turns her needful attention to the lowly beta wuss whom she previously passed over before as being not good enough for her fine booty and lustful needs. However, beta being beta, is happy with sloppy alpha leftovers. Beta wuss is happy being the nice guy to support, defend, and stand by that fantastic woman who previously turned him down so she could lustfully bend over for alpha in writhing ecstasy.

Beta needs to be a nice wuss to maintain access to the fine booty that was previously off limits. The childless women are not coming his way and he is willing to work his ass off for any scraps he can get. Beta convinces himself she is worth him and that life will be better with her and her children. He works, she spends, the kids need a fatherly figure, discipline, braces, food, and clothing while beta wuss spends his resources raising the property of another man.

Beta wuss may go ahead and support the capricious decisions of the proverbial bitch-in-heat if that is what he has to do in order to get his share of the pie. Men instinctively understand this concept. The beta wuss is hopeless, will never see the point, and is nothing for the alpha to worry about since alpha is busy conquering more women and feeding his ego.

The beta's decision to raise children not his own reinforces the ability for women on a societal level to obtain both the alpha for lustful procreation and the beta for day to day support. Thus reinforcing the American Princess phenomenon of careless decision making and fickle, irresponsible behavior. Beta males not willing to provide for alpha progeny and their needful single mom are demeaned by the used Princess no longer able to attract alpha attention.

The end result is the beta wuss in his lowly stupor is used by society to support the development of the biological alpha traits passed on to the next generation and the general irresponsibility of the Princess.

Society publicly lauds the mighty strength and dependability of the beta as a lofty hero while privately abhorring his spinelessness and lacking self-esteem.

Society has implemented measures to help curb such lascivious behavior with monogamy, DNA tests, and required child-support payments. Meanwhile, it remains an individual's decision whether to remain a cuckold and support such reckless behavior or not.

Don't you ever want kids of your own?



Of course, there are situations in life where it makes sense for a man to raise children not his own, especially if the decision will increase the quality of his life. Loneliness, a desire to teach, the inability to have children, and a means to share his life with a quality woman are a few acceptable reasons and there are many more.

I still don't see the argument. Lofty hero? wat?
 

monkey333

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Boy, if I gave any creedence to certain blow hards on an Internet forum thought, I would be in real trouble. Grow up guys, it's called unconditional love. Try it once and consider not being so selfish.
 

Wanescotting

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Boy, if I gave any creedence to certain blow hards on an Internet forum thought, I would be in real trouble. Grow up guys, it's called unconditional love. Try it once and consider not being so selfish.

Wow someone gets it. I am alpha. I just don't see the need to "pass along my genes". Who cares? I am very different from my parents. In fact, anyone who knows me is shocked that I am raising kids. After just 3 short years, these kids are very much like me, and not much like their father. Even though they do resent me at times, they trust that I know what is best for them.
 

InflatableBuddha

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The beta's decision to raise children not his own reinforces the ability for women on a societal level to obtain both the alpha for lustful procreation and the beta for day to day support. Thus reinforcing the American Princess phenomenon of careless decision making and fickle, irresponsible behavior.

Society publicly lauds the mighty strength and dependability of the beta as a lofty hero while privately abhorring his spinelessness and lacking self-esteem.

Yep. It's more common than we would like to admit. Little wonder the divorce rate is so high nowadays.

That said, I'm not against adoption, and I think under the right circumstances, it can be a wonderful thing.

If it hasn't been mentioned already though, I think it's a completely different scenario to adopt children that are not biologically related to either partner, than to adopt children that are biologically related to one partner (usually the mother).
 

BoredWork

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I was the child in an instant family. even though my father isnt my biological father..how he raised me and cared for me made him more of a father to me than my real father. hell, i dont even acknowledge my bio-father anymore. so, being a "man" and passing on your genes doesnt make you a success or failure as man. its who you are and how you live your life. if all you do is raise your wifes kids and they care and respect you..then youre no failure.
 

chusteczka

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I still don't see the argument. Lofty hero? wat?

My writing was an overly simplified generalization that may or may not fit any specific example, such as yourself. Some parts may be applicable in any given situation and other parts not applicable. Everyone is different with their own unique situation and reasons.
 

Xcobra

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Personally, I wouldn't mind taking care of someone else's kids. I would want my own though. No harm in either choice.
 

OverVolt

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Just because we share many of the same instincts and impulses as animals does not necessarily mean we have to act on them. This is what separates us from other animals.

The fact that the OP is willing to take care of his partner's kids demonstrates that he is a loving and caring human being.

Right, and we need more loving and caring human beings. Hence why he should have kids of his own.
 

brainhulk

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say you put in all your blood, sweat and tears raising them. then comes a day that you have to discipline them. they come back at you yelling, "you're not my daddy!"

fuck that












jk. i'm with you on this
 
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