I believe that no QB has won a super bowl on 2 different teams!

[ballmode]

Let's hope Kurt Warner can be the first!

 

[theflyingpig]

Yeah, lets.

 

[ZOOYUKA]

Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

 

[lupi]

That would be a false belief.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

I was at the titans/steelers game. Spelling it wrong is more acceptable than calling him 'Rossenburger' as the guy sitting next to me did throughout the game.

 

[theflyingpig]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

I was at the titans/steelers game. Spelling it wrong is more acceptable than calling him 'Rossenburger' as the guy sitting next to me did throughout the game.

I see. Please accept my sincerest apologies.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: lupi
That would be a false belief.

Care to explain?

 

[imported_Champ]

hmmm...this intrigues me...i cant believe that is true

 

[Away]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...iple_Super_Bowl_starts

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

 

[2Xtreme21]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

 

[Steve]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: lupi
That would be a false belief.

Care to explain?

He can't, because according to:

Originally posted by: Away
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...iple_Super_Bowl_starts

Craig Morton lost both Bowls.

 

[flxnimprtmscl]

Originally posted by: Steve

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: lupi
That would be a false belief.

Care to explain?

He can't, because according to:

Originally posted by: Away
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...iple_Super_Bowl_starts

Craig Morton lost both Bowls.

Yeah, but there's some bench scrub QB somewhere who's been on two Super Bowl winning rosters. That's what he'll claim.

 

[Sentrosi2121]

The only one that comes to mind is McMahon. He won the '85 Super Bowl with the [spitmultipletimes] Bears, then in 1996 he won another Super Bowl backing up #4 in Green Bay. While I'm very happy that I got to experience a Super Bowl win with my team, it still irks me that he was part of the team.

 

[Muadib]

Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl

Originally posted by: Steve

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: lupi
That would be a false belief.

Care to explain?

He can't, because according to:

Originally posted by: Away
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L...iple_Super_Bowl_starts

Craig Morton lost both Bowls.

Yeah, but there's some bench scrub QB somewhere who's been on two Super Bowl winning rosters. That's what he'll claim.

Well, let me be the first to blow this all to hell.

Earl Morrall was on two Super Bowl winning rosters. He beat the Cowboys in Superbowl 5 after replacing a hurt Johnny Unitas.

He was also on the best damn team in the NFL, the 1972 Dolphins. He replaced Bob Griese in their fifth game of the season, taking them into the AFC Championship game. He was pulled in that game because he was struggling, and the rest is history.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

 

[sao123]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

you dont have to throw the ball 40 times a game and 5000 yards in a season to make yourself a great quarterback. Ben can do something that dan marino never could... the would be move out of the pocket and avoid a sack. Dan had several good recievers, Joe and Steve had Jerry, elway had smith and sharpe and TD... put any of those 3 on this steeler team al you still have a mediocre QB who thrown 9/15 for 180 in every game. Put ben in either of the above offences, and he's a legend. its called being a product of the system.
It doesnt mean hes not a good quarterback.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

the 99 rams were not a great defense bud. that team was carried by that superior offense. imo kurt warner is a great qb. as for the other two, yes you can say that their defenses brought them those championships.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=STL

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

the 99 rams were not a great defense bud. that team was carried by that superior offense. imo kurt warner is a great qb. as for the other two, yes you can say that their defenses brought them those championships.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=STL

Ummm, you MIGHT want to READ from that link. In 1999, the Rams were #1 in total offense, and #6 in total defense. That's pretty damn good, although I'll give you that Warner was having a miracle year.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Originally posted by: sao123

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

you dont have to throw the ball 40 times a game and 5000 yards in a season to make yourself a great quarterback. Ben can do something that dan marino never could... the would be move out of the pocket and avoid a sack. Dan had several good recievers, Joe and Steve had Jerry, elway had smith and sharpe and TD... put any of those 3 on this steeler team al you still have a mediocre QB who thrown 9/15 for 180 in every game. Put ben in either of the above offences, and he's a legend. its called being a product of the system.
It doesnt mean hes not a good quarterback.

Nobody said, and if you'll READ my post, I said Ben is a "good" QB. But not GREAT. He's on a team with the best defense in the NFL. The Steelers haven't been out of the top 10 in defense since 1999, when they were #11. They've been number 1 in D several times in this decade.

Ben simply went to a team that was already great, and he's good enough to manage the game well. Marino didn't need to scramble much, because he got rid of the ball so quickly. Put Marino on today's Steelers and their offense would be scary. Very few would argue with that. Yeah, Marino had some good receivers, but so does Ben. I'd argue that Ben's receivers are better than any group Marino ever had.

Put it like this: Of Ben's draft class, he's the second-best QB. Philip Rivers is by FAR the best. Ben is second, then Eli. Switch Ben and Rivers, and Rivers is going to his second Super Bowl, with better stats. And Ben will have to have endured being coached by Marty and Norv.
Situation DOES make a big difference.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: rasczak

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: 2Xtreme21

Originally posted by: Pacfanweb

Originally posted by: theflyingpig

Originally posted by: ZOOYUKA
Also, I don't think a quarterback has won a super bowl after an idiotic motorcycle accident. Go Ben Rothhljfdkljber!

You spelled his name wrong.

Yeah, it's "Worthlessburger".

Eh? Where's your team? Still in the playoffs?

What's that got to do with anything? Steelers are in the playoffs in spite of Worthlessburger, not because of him.
Their defense is why they are winning, and why they won the last time they went. Worthlessburger was terrible in that game.

Not knocking him entirely....he's a good QB, but not great. Just on a great team. Simply winning a Super Bowl doesn't make a QB great. Trent Dilfer won one. Doug Williams won one. Kurt Warner won one.

They all played on teams with great defenses. Not one of them holds a candle to a QB like Dan Marino, who never had a running game OR a defense. If Elway's team hadn't come up with a running game and a great defense his last two years, he'd have never won a SB, and he'd still be one of the greatest of all time. Those two games didn't push him over some invisible "greatness" line.

the 99 rams were not a great defense bud. that team was carried by that superior offense. imo kurt warner is a great qb. as for the other two, yes you can say that their defenses brought them those championships.

http://www.nfl.com/teams/statistics?team=STL

Ummm, you MIGHT want to READ from that link. In 1999, the Rams were #1 in total offense, and #6 in total defense. That's pretty damn good, although I'll give you that Warner was having a miracle year.

lol i just reread it. don't i feel like a turd

 

[Lamont Burns]

I still have no idea how that Rams defense was 6th, watching most of that season.

Anyway, I think Warner's wife can be a bit loony, but I like Kurt. I hope he gets the W.

 

[Poulsonator]

Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
The only one that comes to mind is McMahon. He won the '85 Super Bowl with the [spitmultipletimes] Bears, then in 1996 he won another Super Bowl backing up #4 in Green Bay. While I'm very happy that I got to experience a Super Bowl win with my team, it still irks me that he was part of the team.

When the '96 Packers visited the White House after winning the Super Bowl, McMahon wore his '85 Bears jersey underneath his Packers jersey.

You know why?

Because his '85 Bears team did NOT get to go to the White House after winning SB XX because of the Challenger explosion.

I thought that was super-cool of him to do that.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: Poulsonator

Originally posted by: Sentrosi2121
The only one that comes to mind is McMahon. He won the '85 Super Bowl with the [spitmultipletimes] Bears, then in 1996 he won another Super Bowl backing up #4 in Green Bay. While I'm very happy that I got to experience a Super Bowl win with my team, it still irks me that he was part of the team.

When the '96 Packers visited the White House after winning the Super Bowl, McMahon wore his '85 Bears jersey underneath his Packers jersey.

You know why?

Because his '85 Bears team did NOT get to go to the White House after winning SB XX because of the Challenger explosion.

I thought that was super-cool of him to do that.

I never knew that. That's pretty damn cool.