I bought a new 2007 Mustang

[patentman]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: amdforever2
4.0l 210hp.

Congratulations on making gas prices higher for the rest of us.

19/28 isn't exactly gas guzzler...

yes it is, everyone is just brainwashed into thinking it isn't.

You're speaking out of opinion, I'm speaking in comparison to other cars in its class.

Fair enough, but the fact remains that simply because a car fairs well against other cars in its class from a mpg standpoint does not mean it is not a gas guzzler. All it means is relative to those other cars, it consumes less gas. Heck, I am pissed that my tC only gets 25 mpg and am about ready to trade it in for a SMART (I am also moving to a much more urban environment). It amazes me that the EPA essentially let car manufactures lie to consumers for so long about the expected mpg ratings of their vehicles. Granted, the EPA testing was farked up for the longest time, but that doesn;t mean it is right.

 

[lokiju]

I had a V6 for a weekend rental and it had horrible blind spots and a very plastic feel to it.

But it handled alright and was fun to drive.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: amdforever2
4.0l 210hp.

Congratulations on making gas prices higher for the rest of us.

19/28 isn't exactly gas guzzler...

yes it is, everyone is just brainwashed into thinking it isn't.

You're speaking out of opinion, I'm speaking in comparison to other cars in its class.

Fair enough, but the fact remains that simply because a car fairs well against other cars in its class from a mpg standpoint does not mean it is not a gas guzzler. All it means is relative to those other cars, it consumes less gas. Heck, I am pissed that my tC only gets 25 mpg and am about ready to trade it in for a SMART (I am also moving to a much more urban environment). It amazes me that the EPA essentially let car manufactures lie to consumers for so long about the expected mpg ratings of their vehicles. Granted, the EPA testing was farked up for the longest time, but that doesn;t mean it is right.

Car manufacturers were not totally lying to consumers. I've never seen an EPA estimate I couldn't meet and/or exceed. The average driver doesn't drive with efficiency in mind, they believe that they can achieve EPA estimates no matter how they drive. This is simply not true. You drive like crap, you'll get crappy gas mileage. Didn't you ever notice the fine print on EPA estimates, "Your mileage may vary".

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: amdforever2
Is there any new car in production faster for that price?


As far as the image, I doubt anyone is going to screen the car for a GT badge and in absence of it tell me I'm driving a piece of ******.

Well, except for ATOT.

dodge neon srt could probably beat it.

Read it again. I even highlighted it for you.

Cobalt SS Supercharged?

Car and Driver:The Quickest Cars of 2007: Less than $20,000

It loses the 0-60 by 0.6s and the 1/4 mile by 0.3s to the Mustang.

That said, it is faster around VIR than a Mustang GT

 

[realEZE]

Originally posted by: airs
How old are you? Income level?

I'm 30 and I make $700 / biweekly. What car should I buy?

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: realEZE

Originally posted by: airs
How old are you? Income level?

I'm 30 and I make $700 / biweekly. What car should I buy?

A car under $7000.

 

[realEZE]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: realEZE

Originally posted by: airs
How old are you? Income level?

I'm 30 and I make $700 / biweekly. What car should I buy?

A car under $7000.

Actually, I'm in the market for a used car, but was thinking more like $10,000 budget.

What's a good 4 door / 5 door late-model for under 10k?

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: amdforever2
Is there any new car in production faster for that price?


As far as the image, I doubt anyone is going to screen the car for a GT badge and in absence of it tell me I'm driving a piece of ******.

Well, except for ATOT.

dodge neon srt could probably beat it.

Read it again. I even highlighted it for you.

Cobalt SS Supercharged?

Car and Driver:The Quickest Cars of 2007: Less than $20,000

It loses the 0-60 by 0.6s and the 1/4 mile by 0.3s to the Mustang.

That said, it is faster around VIR than a Mustang GT

I said it before and I'll say it again: 210 hp v6 + RWD + Stick + fastest under 20K

I don't understand the hate.

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: Ktulu

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: patentman

Originally posted by: amdforever2
Is there any new car in production faster for that price?


As far as the image, I doubt anyone is going to screen the car for a GT badge and in absence of it tell me I'm driving a piece of ******.

Well, except for ATOT.

dodge neon srt could probably beat it.

Read it again. I even highlighted it for you.

Cobalt SS Supercharged?

Car and Driver:The Quickest Cars of 2007: Less than $20,000

It loses the 0-60 by 0.6s and the 1/4 mile by 0.3s to the Mustang.

That said, it is faster around VIR than a Mustang GT

I said it before and I'll say it again: 210 hp v6 + RWD + Stick + fastest under 20K

I don't understand the hate.

Me neither, the guy bought the car, if he is happy with it, that's all that matters.

 

[2fast4iu]

I don't want to seem rude, but a lot of this comments are just nonsense....

I have an 05 v6. It is supercharged, runs 12' on the 1/4, stock engine and tranny. 325RWHP 350WRTQ.

My friend has another v6 turboed, with cam/ head work and it runs 11's......

I still drive it daily, I also autocross it.

For the haters..... You have no clue what the s197 can do, and how well it takes to Mods....

I still spent less money than buying a GT and "adding light mods to it"...... and I am faster.

For the poster... If you have to seek advice on your purchase, I really think you chose the wrong car for you ...... you will be better off buying something else, maybe a Prius.

 

[krunchykrome]

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu
I don't want to seem rude, but a lot of this comments are just nonsense....

I have an 05 v6. It is supercharged, runs 12' on the 1/4, stock engine and tranny. 325RWHP 350WRTQ.

My friend has another v6 turboed, with cam/ head work and it runs 11's......

I still drive it daily, I also autocross it.

For the haters..... You have no clue what the s197 can do, and how well it takes to Mods....

I still spent less money than buying a GT and "adding light mods to it"...... and I am faster.

For the poster... If you have to seek advice on your purchase, I really think you chose the wrong car for you ...... you will be better off buying something else, maybe a Prius.

Tell us about your warranty though

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu
I don't want to seem rude, but a lot of this comments are just nonsense....

I have an 05 v6. It is supercharged, runs 12' on the 1/4, stock engine and tranny. 325RWHP 350WRTQ.

My friend has another v6 turboed, with cam/ head work and it runs 11's......

I still drive it daily, I also autocross it.

For the haters..... You have no clue what the s197 can do, and how well it takes to Mods....

I still spent less money than buying a GT and "adding light mods to it"...... and I am faster.

For the poster... If you have to seek advice on your purchase, I really think you chose the wrong car for you ...... you will be better off buying something else, maybe a Prius.

Tell us about your warranty though

Sounds to me like he's his own warranty.

 

[2fast4iu]

I kept the car stock for the first 6 months, no major issues, so I have done the work myself, obviously the warranty does not exist....

The point is 26k will give you a rocket, and it looks are great. If you want performance and a warranty don't expect it for under 40k....

 

[ponyo]

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu
I kept the car stock for the first 6 months, no major issues, so I have done the work myself, obviously the warranty does not exist....

The point is 26k will give you a rocket, and it looks are great. If you want performance and a warranty don't expect it for under 40k....

You can easily get new Mustang GT for under 25k drive out right now without even haggling. I would get that over supercharged v6 with no warranty.

 

[2fast4iu]

Still faster by 40rwhp..... ligther....... better weight distro........ better insurance rate........26K included charger, tokico's struts and shocks, single piece aluminun Drive shaft, Lower control arms, v6 have forged rods Gt does not........ and a few other things........

If you buy a GT to get it to that level you will need another 5k........

My comments where directed to the people that referred to the v6 as a slow car.......that's all.

There is nothing wrong with a GT and a warranty....again my comments are aimed @ performance......

 

[MetalMat]

I own a 2005 v6 vert. Welcome to the club :beer:

Not the fasted car in the world, specialy since it is in automatic. But I love it. Enjoy

 

[2fast4iu]

Thanks,

I don't know about you, but I have owned a jetta, a golf GTI and some other cars. I never got a compliment on them......I can not go anywhere without people telling me how much they like the car.......

Verts are beautifull!!

here is a pic of mine... car pic

 

[Black69ta]

Weight of the vehicle has nothing to do with the horsepower that an engine makes, even the "at the wheel" measurement is only affected by the friction present in the drivetrain(ie...tranny,driveshaft,differential,hubs, etc..) However consider this the '01 honda Prelude had a 2.2L 4 banger that was rated at 220HP but as far as the BIG THREE a 210HP V-6 isn't all that bad. that's about the same as GM unless they add a Supercharger which boosts that number up to 260.

 

[thedarkwolf]

Originally posted by: Black69ta
Weight of the vehicle has nothing to do with the horsepower that an engine makes, even the "at the wheel" measurement is only affected by the friction present in the drivetrain(ie...tranny,driveshaft,differential,hubs, etc..) However consider this the '01 honda Prelude had a 2.2L 4 banger that was rated at 220HP but as far as the BIG THREE a 210HP V-6 isn't all that bad. that's about the same as GM unless they add a Supercharger which boosts that number up to 260.

Your an idiot sorry but you are. All the BIG THREE have a 3.5/3.6l v6 that make 250+hp without need for forced induction just like the import guys. Nothing worse then the HP per liter idiots. Thanks for posting though.

 

[Black69ta]

SAE HP numbers are figured with all assesories on except A/C, just like it would be in the car then an estimated loss is figured for Drivetrain losses. Ford was reamed in the Media because they claimed HP number close that of a T/A WS6 but when the magazine tested at the wheels the actual numbers were even worse than the V-6 firebird. 2006 the SAE changed methods and included All Assesories instead of just Alt. ( I think) That was why otherwise unchanged engines lost 3-5HP

As for the Comment about "Great Toyotas" do some research in 2006 they recalled more cars tahn they sold so how is that a "Pillar of Quality" Even the Toyota CEO admitted that they were so focused on Beating GM that they lost sight of Quality and it has suffered.

 

[f1r3s1d3]

Nice Explorer you bought (It's the same engine in the V6 Explorers.)

To make a few things clear, I am a Ford fanboy at heart. I am also, anti-import. Back on topic, depending on the color and any addons you got, the car will look nice. It'll haul some balls too, and yes, you'll be able to smoke a few teens in their Civic's. Many people in here don't realize, even though it has the same amount of HP as smaller engines, it's the torque that matters. You aren't going to get sht from a N/A 4 banger as far as torque goes.

EDIT: For all you you anti-Ford people out there, I'd like to kindly inform you that their recent, new cars (Ford Fusion, Ford Edge, namely), are a LOT better then their old ones. Ohh I can't wait till the big blue oval is topping jap auto makers again. I hope GM starts to do better too. America's automakers, IMO, have always made a better car. More powerful, better looking, etc.

The new 3.5l Duratec is currently putting out ~265HP w/ease, and is expected to scale upwards of 300hp in the future.. PLUS it's reliable, and is pretty damn good on gas. Their new four banger in the Fusion's is great too. Very refined with some pep.

 

[02ranger]

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu
I don't want to seem rude, but a lot of this comments are just nonsense....

I have an 05 v6. It is supercharged, runs 12' on the 1/4, stock engine and tranny. 325RWHP 350WRTQ.

My friend has another v6 turboed, with cam/ head work and it runs 11's......

I still drive it daily, I also autocross it.

For the haters..... You have no clue what the s197 can do, and how well it takes to Mods....

I still spent less money than buying a GT and "adding light mods to it"...... and I am faster.

For the poster... If you have to seek advice on your purchase, I really think you chose the wrong car for you ...... you will be better off buying something else, maybe a Prius.

I have a buddy who has an '06 GT that he put a supercharger on. He's got about $35000 in the car right now, and has 479RWHP and something like 450RWTQ. When they were tuning it after installing the Procharger, they got it to 520RWHP but had to back it off because of the motor. If he buys a new short block, the people who installed the supercharger said he could easily be pushing 800+RWHP. Not raining on anybodies parade or trying to put down anybodies cars, I just wanted to tell you about his car.

 

[2fast4iu]

Originally posted by: 02ranger
I have a buddy who has an '06 GT that he put a supercharger on. He's got about $35000 in the car right now, and has 479RWHP and something like 450RWTQ. When they were tuning it after installing the Procharger, they got it to 520RWHP but had to back it off because of the motor. If he buys a new short block, the people who installed the supercharger said he could easily be pushing 800+RWHP. Not raining on anybodies parade or trying to put down anybodies cars, I just wanted to tell you about his car.

Well, I would be very carefull with the shop.........

the TQ numbers look low, the HP look high, The internals and tranny would never support anything over 550rwhp...... to make 800 count on fuel upgrades, tranny upgrades, forged rods and pistons, new cams, head job, and on and on.......

Back to topic...... The point is that for the money, the car is a great buy fast as it is and with hughe potential with little investment.

And yes HP is nothing TQ moves you...... that's the flaw of the high hp japanese models they don't have the torque.....

Think about it this way..... what car can you purchase and throw a blower without any other upgrades...(just injectors) and nearly double the TQ output?...not many.... most japanese models requiered a bottom up modification....

Yes the 4.0l engine is a modified explorer engine......well proven I would say.....

I don't hate on imports, just the attitude of some....but that's a different conversation all together.

If you are happy with the car.....that's all that matters......

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: 02ranger

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu
I don't want to seem rude, but a lot of this comments are just nonsense....

I have an 05 v6. It is supercharged, runs 12' on the 1/4, stock engine and tranny. 325RWHP 350WRTQ.

My friend has another v6 turboed, with cam/ head work and it runs 11's......

I still drive it daily, I also autocross it.

For the haters..... You have no clue what the s197 can do, and how well it takes to Mods....

I still spent less money than buying a GT and "adding light mods to it"...... and I am faster.

For the poster... If you have to seek advice on your purchase, I really think you chose the wrong car for you ...... you will be better off buying something else, maybe a Prius.

I have a buddy who has an '06 GT that he put a supercharger on. He's got about $35000 in the car right now, and has 479RWHP and something like 450RWTQ. When they were tuning it after installing the Procharger, they got it to 520RWHP but had to back it off because of the motor. If he buys a new short block, the people who installed the supercharger said he could easily be pushing 800+RWHP. Not raining on anybodies parade or trying to put down anybodies cars, I just wanted to tell you about his car.

Just throw a stock '03 Cobra long block in the thing and slap a Kenne Bell on it and be done with it.

800 RWHP isn't 'easy' with only 4.6 liters, not on 93 pump gas and without nitrous or methanol anyway. Max boost is only about 18-20 psi with pump gas, and to be considered a daily driven street car in my book, it has to be making the claimed horsepower 24/7.

1000 HP dyno queen Supras only make 650 on the street with 93 octane for example. Misleading, kinda like overclocking once, barely passing 3dmark with artifacts galore knowing its not stable or usable, then claiming the higher score when in reality you don't ever clock that high in daily use because it's not stable.

Now go to a 5.4 or a VT 324 (4.6 bored and stroked) and yeah 800+ RWHP is a breeze. Have your buddy look at VT, MMR, or MPH for the best 4.6 short blocks. I'm seriously considering the VT 324 Cobra engine myself. Gain a few hundred horsepower and shed about 100 lbs off the front of my Terminator (VT 324 is darton wet sleeved alum block). They have their 324 featured on their website making 1400 HP and 1100 ft-lbs on a engine dyno with only 20 psi (ie: 93 oct compatible).

No replacement for displacement even with forced induction.

 

[02ranger]

Originally posted by: 2fast4iu

Originally posted by: 02ranger
I have a buddy who has an '06 GT that he put a supercharger on. He's got about $35000 in the car right now, and has 479RWHP and something like 450RWTQ. When they were tuning it after installing the Procharger, they got it to 520RWHP but had to back it off because of the motor. If he buys a new short block, the people who installed the supercharger said he could easily be pushing 800+RWHP. Not raining on anybodies parade or trying to put down anybodies cars, I just wanted to tell you about his car.

Well, I would be very carefull with the shop.........

the TQ numbers look low, the HP look high, The internals and tranny would never support anything over 550rwhp...... to make 800 count on fuel upgrades, tranny upgrades, forged rods and pistons, new cams, head job, and on and on.......

Back to topic...... The point is that for the money, the car is a great buy fast as it is and with hughe potential with little investment.

And yes HP is nothing TQ moves you...... that's the flaw of the high hp japanese models they don't have the torque.....

Think about it this way..... what car can you purchase and throw a blower without any other upgrades...(just injectors) and nearly double the TQ output?...not many.... most japanese models requiered a bottom up modification....

Yes the 4.0l engine is a modified explorer engine......well proven I would say.....

I don't hate on imports, just the attitude of some....but that's a different conversation all together.

If you are happy with the car.....that's all that matters......

Well, the shop that is doing the work specializes in Mustangs, so I'm pretty sure they know what the car can handle. There may be other things they told him to do to get 800RWHP that he forgot to tell me or I just forgot about. All I was saying was that you can get a pretty nasty ride out of a V8 Mustang for a relatively small amount.