I bought a new 2007 Mustang

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

If it's this Accord (in slightly veiled concept form), I'd take a V6, 6-speed version over any V6 Mustang. Likely will handle better, ride better, accelerate faster, have more room, vastly nicer interior, better fuel economy, more cargo room, safer etc, etc.

And practical and still base on a family sedan and still NOT cool as the mustang. Not that I have ANYTHING against the Accord. It is just NOT cool.

That accord is a lot cooler than the mustang IMO

The last generation of stangs are cooler looking than this one IMO as well

I fail to see how can a family sedan can be "cool". And to add on to NFS4, you can probably get a the GT for the price of that V6 accord. Which one would you pick then?

 

[jdoggg12]

1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Your ignorance shows...by American Muscle I did not mean nationality I mean DOHC rumbling that you cannot get from some Camry dust vac sounding engine. Are you going to argue that the Fox body 5.0 mustangs were inefficient also? :disgust:

"DOHC rumbling"?

a)The Camry engine is DOHC, the 'stang is SOHC.
b)It's the OHV V8s that are considered to have the "rumble", not SOHC V6s.

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
its my opinion, and the opinion of many that i know, that german cars and japenese cars last are a lot more realiable than any american car company (such as ford)

Actually, these days German cars are the least reliable out there. Well, except maybe for Russian cars, if they still make them

...But seriously, both the Americans and the Koreans make a more reliable car than the Germans.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt

Originally posted by: krunchykrome

Originally posted by: bigben2wardpitt
unless u are bringing in tons of cash money, why would you ever buy an american car?

silly, silly, silly if you ask me.

I would of bought some kind of german or japanese car with that $$.

Explain your logic please...? Especially regarding the german car..

its my opinion, and the opinion of many that i know, that german cars and japenese cars last are a lot more realiable than any american car company (such as ford)

wanna know why ford has the most repeat buyers every year? because all there cars break down so fast that people have to get new ones, and are too stupid to just buy from a reliable car company.

and sure there are exceptions on both sides (VW and Audi at times can be suspect on reliablility, varies from model to model), and sure you could have a ford f150 last you 15 years, but for the most part japenese>German>american, in terms of reliability, and german over anything with sleak style/design and SPEED!

Right... and thats why you always see ONLY brand new BMWs driving around all the time, whatever year it is... driven mostly by status seeking pansies who wouldn't be caught dead in a car more than a year old regardless of condition.

:roll:

The only people driving 1980s bimmers are the wannabe KFeds trying to act like they have a $100,000 car because it has a BMW emblem on the trunk, because they can't afford a new one.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: DaTT

Originally posted by: CVSiN

Originally posted by: SolMiester

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The cost of the vehicle after rebates and everything was 17,590.

Add in taxes at 1358.88, extended warranty at 1695.00, gap insurance at $399.

Total cost: 21042.88


V6 manual, 4.0l 210hp.


*waits for anandtech to tell me I should have saved thousands on a 1995 honda civic with the maxwell house package*


I love my car. It has plenty of power despite being the V6.

Now supercharge it and own V8 models...LOL

yeh good luck with that... base model V8 is now 300HP.. change exhaust and add supercharger ort Turbo or dual turbo to a GT for 450HP+ for less money than he paid new for a POS v6..

V6 needs an dual exhaust change as well as a new rearend and fuel system as well as a different tranny gearing to get any serious power outa it..

please Learn2Stang

V8 Stangs are the flat out cheapest key to wild performance in the V8 world..

Stock they are clogged like Al Bundys Toilet... unclog that exhaust and get it breathing and the horsepower just flows out... CHEAPLY

I Seriously hope you are not speaking of the current Stangs....2 1/2" is hardly "clogged" I did an exhaust job (Bassani cats, X pipe, axle back) and only gained 5hp at the wheels....and that was probably with the hi-flo cats. Ford did a great job with the stock exhaust this time around.

But did you do your heads and intake and cams yet? when I said breathing I mean all the way from the top to the bottom..

but yes I agree the new exhaust is a far cry from every previous year..

And to the guy that said that hardly anyone mods v8 stangs...

LOLOLOLOL...

Come down to Houston man I swear even grandmas have Xpipes and catbacks on...I hardly ever hear stock stangs running around unless they still have dealer tags on them lol..

Fun Ford Weekend just past last week and your be very very surpised what alot of "stock" stangs are packing.

I have full Bassani stainless exhaust (mid length headers, x pipe, and catback) on my '03 Cobra bolted up to FR500 heads and 270/484 cams with a Kenne Bell 2.4 nestled between them sucking air through a Accufab 1700 cfm throttle body, SCT 2800 MAF and a JLT 4" intake with a 12" S&B cone filter. Hows that for breathing

It's hard to describe the sound, at times it sounds like both a big block muscle car and a Lamborghini.

Orgasmic at any RPM in any case. I like the idle lope myself, esp. when there is an Accord next to me with a spoiler and blue LEDs in the interior and the driver is wearing a backwards baseball cap.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: SVT Cobra
Your ignorance shows...by American Muscle I did not mean nationality I mean DOHC rumbling that you cannot get from some Camry dust vac sounding engine. Are you going to argue that the Fox body 5.0 mustangs were inefficient also? :disgust:

"DOHC rumbling"?

a)The Camry engine is DOHC, the 'stang is SOHC.
b)It's the OHV V8s that are considered to have the "rumble", not SOHC V6s.

The rumble has nothing to do with the valve train configuration. It has to do with the crossplane 90 crank and 90 block and firing order: L-R-L-L-R-L-R-R. You will get that with pushrods, SOHC or DOHC, the only prerequisite is 90 degree rod journals and a 90 deg V in the block.

The double firing on one bank, alternating between banks, is what creates the classic American V8 'rumbling' acoustic signature. No other configuration will ever come close, though you can try to simulate it with lumpy cams and a resonator can on a V6, its not the same and never will be.

Suppose if you wanted the sound you could forge a custom V6 crank with uneven journals and uneven firing, L-L-R-L-R-R with a long gap before starting over would sound pretty 'rumbly'. But so will your engine bay.

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

Yes, its not cool IMHO. Like I said before, its still a coupe base on a family sedan with its heritage as a family sedan.

It looks better than previous gen, but it still doesn't have the "cool" factor to me.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: thomsbrain
no offense, and i'm sure you're happy with your purchase, but: i just don't understand why anyone would buy that car. it's not cool. it's not fast. it's not well-made. it's not economical. it's not comfortable. it's not a good transportation appliance. the only thing it IS good at is making people assume that you're 16, blond, female, and have hibiscus-flower seat covers.

you guys can argue "displacement" all you want. the fact is this car, even with the manual, is slower than your average used V6 family sedan in the same price range, will suffer from weaker long-term resale values, and be less reliable. there's just no "win" to this car.

Its a retro mustang. Its a cool car compare to previous gen. mustang IMO. Cool cars are never perfect nor very practical....

What's cooler to have? A mustang or an accord?

If it's this Accord (in slightly veiled concept form), I'd take a V6, 6-speed version over any V6 Mustang. Likely will handle better, ride better, accelerate faster, have more room, vastly nicer interior, better fuel economy, more cargo room, safer etc, etc.

And practical and still base on a family sedan and still NOT cool as the mustang. Not that I have ANYTHING against the Accord. It is just NOT cool.

An Accord V6 Coupe with 6-speed stick may not be cooler than a Mustang GT, but it sure is cooler than a Mustang V6 with stupid "MUSTANG" letters spelled on the lower door.

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

Yes, its not cool IMHO. Like I said before, its still a coupe base on a family sedan with its heritage as a family sedan.

It looks better than previous gen, but it still doesn't have the "cool" factor to me.

The first Accord was a 2-door hatchback. So that's where it's "heritage" lays.

 

[MrPickins]

I have a thing against buying cars brand new, but other than that I say:

If you like the car and can afford it, be happy with your decision, no matter what opinions you get here.

 

[AdamK47]

I saw a newerish Mustang GT with "300 HP" decales placed under the side GT emblems. I laughed.

 

[Nutdotnet]

Originally posted by: Black88GTA

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Bad move. You purchased a Mustang for the image yet you didn't spring for the V8? "Car people" laugh at people who do this...sorry dude.

Oh...and return that extended warranty! Seriously...and you SHOULD be able to as most have a 30 day grace period.

As for your car...sounds like you're stuck with it!

Not everyone is a "car person" though. If you don't really require the V8, the V6 is a much better choice in terms of gas mileage, practicality, and especially insurance costs - which is pretty close to the top of the list in terms of things to consider when you're a single, 21 year old male trying to insure a car.

And this is coming from a "car person".

I hear ya...I didn't say everyone WAS a car-person...but in the automotive community...a v6 Mustang is a pretty funny-concept.

Edit- Should say NEW Mustang.

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: AdamK47
I saw a newerish Mustang GT with "300 HP" decales placed under the side GT emblems. I laughed.

I saw a V6 Mustang with hood, front facia, bumper, and emblems, all from a '03 Cobra, with a Y splitter for dual exhaust, and a Cobra R wing. What gave it away was the flared out rocker panels (the '03 Cobra has straight clean rocker panels) and, get this, on the back where the SVT emblem should have been was a big gold "V6" emblem under a Cobra snake emblem. Not to mention, well, it sounded like a and moved like a stock V6 when he took off: slow.

The funniest thing about that is the V6 emblem was intentionally and knowingly put there with all the other 'mods' as there is no such Ford OEM emblem even on a factory V6!

Good thing my destination was at the next turn, I couldn't stop laughing. I wasn't driving my Cobra at the time, unfortunately.

Then I was quickly saddened when I realized there is a Terminator somewhere missing some parts :brokenheart:

Fvking ricers.

 

[NatePo717]

Originally posted by: RichUK
Only 210Hp from a 4.0L V6 ..... WTF!!!!!!!!!

Seriously. I have a 2.3L 5 cylinder in my Volvo station wagon that puts out more horsepower than that.

 

[Ktulu]

Originally posted by: NatePo717

Originally posted by: RichUK
Only 210Hp from a 4.0L V6 ..... WTF!!!!!!!!!

Seriously. I have a 2.3L 5 cylinder in my Volvo station wagon that puts out more horsepower than that.

 

[NatePo717]

Originally posted by: Ktulu

yummy!

 

[iversonyin]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

Yes, its not cool IMHO. Like I said before, its still a coupe base on a family sedan with its heritage as a family sedan.

It looks better than previous gen, but it still doesn't have the "cool" factor to me.

The first Accord was a 2-door hatchback. So that's where it's "heritage" lays.

Which was a practical, sensible car...

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

Yes, its not cool IMHO. Like I said before, its still a coupe base on a family sedan with its heritage as a family sedan.

It looks better than previous gen, but it still doesn't have the "cool" factor to me.

The first Accord was a 2-door hatchback. So that's where it's "heritage" lays.

Which was a practical, sensible car...

Are you saying then that a Mustang isn't practical or sensible? A 2-door Mustang is the ultimate secretary's car. Seating for four and a decent trunk.

The Accord Coupe has that as well, yet is probably better at doing the job. That doesn't make the Accord inferior. It just has the wrong wheels being driven

 

[exdeath]

Originally posted by: NatePo717

Originally posted by: RichUK
Only 210Hp from a 4.0L V6 ..... WTF!!!!!!!!!

Seriously. I have a 2.3L 5 cylinder in my Volvo station wagon that puts out more horsepower than that.

How much horsepower without the turbo? :laugh:

Apples and bananas. That V6 is making the same power without a turbo. Not arguing one or the other, just saying.

Granted I do like the torque in the Volvo engines. Just looked at some of the newer models, 218HP @ 5000 RPM with 236 ft-lbs @ 1500 RPM.

Not shabby at all.

 

[RGUN]

Originally posted by: Nutdotnet
Bad move. You purchased a Mustang for the image yet you didn't spring for the V8? "Car people" laugh at people who do this...sorry dude.

Oh...and return that extended warranty! Seriously...and you SHOULD be able to as most have a 30 day grace period.

As for your car...sounds like you're stuck with it!

"car people" appreciate the engineering that goes into all cars....

what you are describing is an asshole

 

[palindrome]

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The cost of the vehicle after rebates and everything was 17,590.

Add in taxes at 1358.88, extended warranty at 1695.00, gap insurance at $399.

Total cost: 21042.88


V6 manual, 4.0l 210hp.


*waits for anandtech to tell me I should have saved thousands on a 1995 honda civic with the maxwell house package*


I love my car. It has plenty of power despite being the V6.

Could have bought a used NSX for that kinda money or a twin turbo 300zx or a anything other than a V6 piece of American fecal matter

 

[overst33r]

Originally posted by: palindrome

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The cost of the vehicle after rebates and everything was 17,590.

Add in taxes at 1358.88, extended warranty at 1695.00, gap insurance at $399.

Total cost: 21042.88


V6 manual, 4.0l 210hp.


*waits for anandtech to tell me I should have saved thousands on a 1995 honda civic with the maxwell house package*


I love my car. It has plenty of power despite being the V6.

Could have bought a used NSX for that kinda money or a twin turbo 300zx or a anything other than a V6 piece of American fecal matter

I'd like to see where you can find a used NSX for $21k... that doesn't have anything wrong with it mechanically or cosmetically...

You must be on crack son...

 

[Black88GTA]

Originally posted by: mariok2006

Originally posted by: palindrome

Originally posted by: amdforever2
The cost of the vehicle after rebates and everything was 17,590.

Add in taxes at 1358.88, extended warranty at 1695.00, gap insurance at $399.

Total cost: 21042.88


V6 manual, 4.0l 210hp.


*waits for anandtech to tell me I should have saved thousands on a 1995 honda civic with the maxwell house package*


I love my car. It has plenty of power despite being the V6.

Could have bought a used NSX for that kinda money or a twin turbo 300zx or a anything other than a V6 piece of American fecal matter

I'd like to see where you can find a used NSX for $21k... that doesn't have anything wrong with it mechanically or cosmetically...

You must be on crack son...

LOL...um, a used NSX or TT 300ZX?? I mean, don't get me wrong...nice cars, and all...but, purchase price aside, the cost to insure and keep something like that would be ridiculous. Not to mention maintenance / upkeep, premium gas requirement (and lots of it), lack of warranty, the fact that previous owners (at least of the Z) probably beat on it, age, worn out expensive to replace parts...etc.

The Ford is covered by warranty, is inexpensive to insure, has had no other people beating on it or ignoring maintenance, takes regular unleaded, parts / repairs are generally cheap once the warranty expires...it's just no contest. The comparable initial cost of the cars is nothing compared to the true cost of ownership of the vehicles you suggested.

 

[BUTCH1]

Sure V8 'stangs are the bomb but That's a decent 0-60 time for a 6 AND he will save
a bundle on insurance as it's not a GT model. 240 lbs of torque will still make it a fun
car as a daily driver with plenty of grunt. Summer is coming up and so will the already
insane gas prices.....I vote good move OP...

 

[zerocool84]

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: NFS4

Originally posted by: iversonyin

Originally posted by: jdoggg12
1st - its a coupe, or did you not click the link?
2nd - you should state that you're talking about the accord, the 540i is a 'family sedan'

Yes, its not cool IMHO. Like I said before, its still a coupe base on a family sedan with its heritage as a family sedan.

It looks better than previous gen, but it still doesn't have the "cool" factor to me.

The first Accord was a 2-door hatchback. So that's where it's "heritage" lays.

Which was a practical, sensible car...

Are you saying then that a Mustang isn't practical or sensible? A 2-door Mustang is the ultimate secretary's car. Seating for four and a decent trunk.

The Accord Coupe has that as well, yet is probably better at doing the job. That doesn't make the Accord inferior. It just has the wrong wheels being driven

Seating for 4 but with only kids in the back but not grown people. Crustangs have never been known for their rear headroom.