I call BS on this:

[Broly]

what am i going to say since I said use the a8n premium
I can't just tell him to pull it out and i'll figure it out.. cani >?

 

[TanisHalfElven]

i hae question. do you plan to OC. if not then ditch the water cooling altogather.

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Broly
I'll read up onthe heatpipe issues

for hte record your rig is nothing like mine.

Similar coolers so what? Your system is 1/4 piping.

WTF

Does that look like 1/4 in tubing to you? And nevermind that we have the same case, same waterblocks, same line of CPU and GPU, similar memory, and a similar motherboard.

If that's not similar I don't know what is.

 

[AzNPinkTuv]

i dont see one of those holes where u can penetrate =/ 520 will buy u quite a few nights too lol...

 

[kylebubp]

550 dollars for just the case?

That is just rediculous

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: kylebubp
550 dollars for just the case?

That is just rediculous

Wow, people really don't read on these boards. It's perhaps the nicest computer case available PLUS an entire watercooling system (resevior, radiator, pumps) that is perfectly integrated.

 

[SoundTheSurrender]

yes but 550 dollars?????????

 

[cubby1223]

Originally posted by: Praxis1452
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...20ATX%20AMD%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...20ATX%20AMD%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail

How does it not fit? Looks basically the same to me

No, this is the board I think he wants to work with, where the pci-e slots are clearly in different positions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...20ATX%20AMD%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: djmihow
yes but 550 dollars?????????

First, it's only $475 for that Koolance PC3-725SL case.

If one bought the components separately, it would cost roughly $450:
Lian Li PC-V1000 Case - $175
Koolance INX-720SL Cooling System - $275

So that leaves an extra $25 which pays for the custom mounting job (cutting a large hole in the top of the case, etc.)

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: cubby1223
No, this is the board I think he wants to work with, where the pci-e slots are clearly in different positions:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage...20ATX%20AMD%20Motherboard%20-%20Retail

If that is the motherboard layout, two double-slot PCI-E video cards will not fit. The upper-most PCI slot will not be usable as that is where the radiator is positioned. If the cards are both using water blocks instead, the second video card may fit, but I highly doubt it just by looking at my system.

EDIT: Just to clear some things up, such a setup will work with the A8N-SLI motherboard because the two x16 PCI-E slots are shifted one position down.

 

[alimoalem]

Originally posted by: Broly
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4092/picture0014gy.jpg lc-g45d5u acquos 1080p tv
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/4876/picture0020pl.jpg Apple 30" Display
and the crappy desk I need replaced.

man lol widescreen is definitely not for me...

why don't u stick to 1 card and spend the money saved on a better camera??

 

[Broly]

Wow so then the techie guy was actually right.
SO I just stick with the premium?

My big worry is that i lose alot when I go to the premium

What if dual x16 lanes eventually become handy down the road?

I am also having difficulty wrapping my head wround the fact that the heatpipe doesn't work "well" when it's inverted

infact I don't understand how the conduction of head is affected by inverting the motherboard since conduction is dependent on the the heatpipes specific heat capacity

 

[Broly]

Oh yeah and I do nee a better camera

At the moment I"m stuck with a Canon s500 I bought 2 years ago but it seems to suck when you focus in on text or something

gets all blurry

I was looking at that spiffy black Nikon Coolpix.

 

[bob4432]

i still can't figure out how one of the boards will work better than the others....they all have the pci-e slots in the same spot, the all have a pci slot at the bottom (or in this case since the board is upside down in the case the top), the only difference i can see is that one board has 1,4x pci-e and the other has pci slots. somebody show me the light!!!!

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: Broly
I'll read up onthe heatpipe issues

for hte record your rig is nothing like mine.

Similar coolers so what? Your system is 1/4 piping.

WTF

Does that look like 1/4 in tubing to you? And nevermind that we have the same case, same waterblocks, same line of CPU and GPU, similar memory, and a similar motherboard.

If that's not similar I don't know what is.

show us some more pics....

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: Broly
Wow so then the techie guy was actually right.
SO I just stick with the premium?

My big worry is that i lose alot when I go to the premium

What if dual x16 lanes eventually become handy down the road?

I am also having difficulty wrapping my head wround the fact that the heatpipe doesn't work "well" when it's inverted

infact I don't understand how the conduction of head is affected by inverting the motherboard since conduction is dependent on the the heatpipes specific heat capacity

Graphics cards now don't use the full capacity of an x8 lane, much less an x16. It will be a few years before that happens, and since you obviously don't have an issue spending money, I'm sure you'll be able to upgrade.

As for the heatpipe issue, it's tricky. A heatpipe basically works by captuirng heat energy and using that energy to turn a liquid into a vapor. As the vapor rises within the pipe, it cools and returns to the bottom as a liquid. The process then repeats, acting as a conveyor pulling heat away from the source.

Inverting the pipe isn't a problem in most cases as the liquid merely falls to the appropriate end (by the force of gravity) and rises when heated against the force of gravity. However, for some reason, the heatpipe used by Asus does not work inverted. Perhaps the liquid is unable to move to the other end, or maybe it doesn't have a sufficient wick. Either way, it just doesn't work. Maybe they fixed the problem on newer models, but if not, you will need to remove the heatpipe and add cooling to both the chipsets and the mosfets.

 

[Bobthelost]

Originally posted by: bob4432
i still can't figure out how one of the boards will work better than the others....they all have the pci-e slots in the same spot, the all have a pci slot at the bottom (or in this case since the board is upside down in the case the top), the only difference i can see is that one board has 1,4x pci-e and the other has pci slots. somebody show me the light!!!!

They don't though.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asus/a8n32sli_deluxe/board.jpg
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2358&p=4

Look at the difference

 

[Broly]

bob look at the deluxe and look the premium you will see that the 2nd pci slot placing is different this is what i've been trying to say all along but no one has been listening!

 

[Bobthelost]

You're right, there is a difference, in which case you're stuck with the older design.

How will you survive such a blow!?

*overly dramatic sigh*

 

[daniel1113]

Originally posted by: bob4432
show us some more pics....

Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

There's a few more pictures. As for the motherboard question you posted above, the A8N32-SLI has a different layout compared tp the A8N-SLI. To make room for the changes (such as the missing x4 slot), the x16 PCI-E slots were both moved up.

 

[Bobthelost]

You could always just go for crossfire:
http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asus/a8r_mvp/a8r-mb.jpg

 

[Broly]

such a button pusher bob
you know i hate crossfire

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Bobthelost

Originally posted by: bob4432
i still can't figure out how one of the boards will work better than the others....they all have the pci-e slots in the same spot, the all have a pci slot at the bottom (or in this case since the board is upside down in the case the top), the only difference i can see is that one board has 1,4x pci-e and the other has pci slots. somebody show me the light!!!!

They don't though.

http://images.anandtech.com/reviews/motherboards/asus/a8n32sli_deluxe/board.jpg
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2358&p=4

Look at the difference

thanks, i never saw that firts little pci-e (is it a 1x?) slot on the first board you link too. now i can see where there might be an issue. i didn't realize both pci-e 16x slots were moved down an entire slot size.

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: daniel1113

Originally posted by: bob4432
show us some more pics....

Pic 1
Pic 2
Pic 3
Pic 4
Pic 5

There's a few more pictures. As for the motherboard question you posted above, the A8N32-SLI has a different layout compared tp the A8N-SLI. To make room for the changes (such as the missing x4 slot), the x16 PCI-E slots were both moved up.

thanks for the pics, looks good. are you using 3/8 or 1/2" tubing?

 

[bob4432]

Originally posted by: Broly
bob look at the deluxe and look the premium you will see that the 2nd pci slot placing is different this is what i've been trying to say all along but no one has been listening!

you were saying pci, not pci-e. i was just looking at the pci slots, there is a huge difference between pci and pci-e...