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KK

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Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Hopefully your boss isn't aware of your ATOT postings and user name.

He is now.
<shiftyeyes>

Yep, not only did we send the link to this thread to your boss...we sent it to HIS boss...

You're stepping on someones toes, that's Mr. Alkemyst's job.
 

trmiv

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

A lot of people have PTO instead of "sick" and "vacation" time, so it's the same thing anyway.

My issue is with the deception, not the terminology.

KT

That's my point, it's not deception if it's PTO. PTO is unspecified leave, personal time off, you can take it for whatever reason. If a company has a PTO policy they can't say jack shit if you wake up in the morning and call in that you aren't coming in that day for whatever reason.
 
May 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

Except that not everyone has that option.

You don't get any vacation?

KT

Many people don't until they've been at their jobs a year or more. When they do many jobs require to file for vacation far in advance, take it in a block, or otherwise limit your use of vacation time. Most places I've worked have viewed 'vacation' time as very different from sick, or personal/comp time (not that many places I've worked have offered any of those). Furthermore 5 days a year is hardly a useful amount of time off, which is what most people get until they've been with their company for many years. Until you get up into 20-30 days off a year you're just not looking at vacation being a reasonable 'bank' of sick/personal time.

The bottom line is that America views jobs as being FAR too important...much more important than they actually are. People just need to relax and put the focus back on life itself.
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

A lot of people have PTO instead of "sick" and "vacation" time, so it's the same thing anyway.

My issue is with the deception, not the terminology.

KT

That's my point, it's not deception if it's PTO. PTO is unspecified leave, personal time off, you can take it for whatever reason. If a company has a PTO policy they can't say jack shit if you wake up in the morning and call in that you aren't coming in that day for whatever reason.

Yeah I hear you, but that's not what we are discussing here. Valid point though.

KT
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

Except that not everyone has that option.

You don't get any vacation?

KT

Many people don't until they've been at their jobs a year or more. When they do many jobs require to file for vacation far in advance, take it in a block, or otherwise limit your use of vacation time. Most places I've worked have viewed 'vacation' time as very different from sick, or personal/comp time (not that many places I've worked have offered any of those). Furthermore 5 days a year is hardly a useful amount of time off, which is what most people get until they've been with their company for many years. Until you get up into 20-30 days off a year you're just not looking at vacation being a reasonable 'bank' of sick/personal time.

The bottom line is that America views jobs as being FAR too important...much more important than they actually are. People just need to relax and put the focus back on life itself.

Wow, well I have never encountered that anywhere I have worked (live in Canada FYI). At my company you start out with 3 weeks vacation effective immediately, though approval of time off is subject to manager approval of course.

KT

 
May 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

Except that not everyone has that option.

You don't get any vacation?

KT

Many people don't until they've been at their jobs a year or more. When they do many jobs require to file for vacation far in advance, take it in a block, or otherwise limit your use of vacation time. Most places I've worked have viewed 'vacation' time as very different from sick, or personal/comp time (not that many places I've worked have offered any of those). Furthermore 5 days a year is hardly a useful amount of time off, which is what most people get until they've been with their company for many years. Until you get up into 20-30 days off a year you're just not looking at vacation being a reasonable 'bank' of sick/personal time.

The bottom line is that America views jobs as being FAR too important...much more important than they actually are. People just need to relax and put the focus back on life itself.

Wow, well I have never encountered that anywhere I have worked (live in Canada FYI). At my company you start out with 3 weeks vacation effective immediately, though approval of time off is subject to manager approval of course.

KT

I think the most common is no vacation the first year, 1 week after that, then you earn another week after say 3 or so years, then the next after another 3 to 5, etc. Unless you're an upper management type, in which case you get quite a bit more.
 

thepd7

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Originally posted by: KK
Originally posted by: BoomerD
Originally posted by: oldsmoboat
Originally posted by: Bateluer
Hopefully your boss isn't aware of your ATOT postings and user name.

He is now.
<shiftyeyes>

Yep, not only did we send the link to this thread to your boss...we sent it to HIS boss...

You're stepping on someones toes, that's Mr. Alkemyst's job.

lol so true.


Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

Except that not everyone has that option.

You don't get any vacation?

KT

Many people don't until they've been at their jobs a year or more. When they do many jobs require to file for vacation far in advance, take it in a block, or otherwise limit your use of vacation time. Most places I've worked have viewed 'vacation' time as very different from sick, or personal/comp time (not that many places I've worked have offered any of those). Furthermore 5 days a year is hardly a useful amount of time off, which is what most people get until they've been with their company for many years. Until you get up into 20-30 days off a year you're just not looking at vacation being a reasonable 'bank' of sick/personal time.

The bottom line is that America views jobs as being FAR too important...much more important than they actually are. People just need to relax and put the focus back on life itself.

Wow, well I have never encountered that anywhere I have worked (live in Canada FYI). At my company you start out with 3 weeks vacation effective immediately, though approval of time off is subject to manager approval of course.

KT

That explains this comment:

Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

See, I start a new job in january with a good company, however for some idiotic reason I earn 6.67 hours of vacation a month (8 days a year) but 8 hours of sick time a month (12 days a year). Why they do this is beyond me, otherwise the company culture is laid back and overall the place is incredible.

You can bet your ass I will be taking some of those sick days to slack. No way I am taking a vacation day for something like that whenever their system is so ridiculous.

But if I started with 3 weeks of vacation then I am with you, why not just take a day.



Originally posted by: ironwing
At some point, when you are really, really sick, go in to work. Do this just once and no one will ever question your sick days. If what you have is obviously contagious, even better.

That's brilliant, I am defiantely going to do that at my new job.
 

Injury

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Originally posted by: Citrix
there is nothing wrong with my doctor. if i am sick with a 24 hour stomach bug, bad cold or flu there is no reason to see a doctor and waste their time with a illness that they can do nothing for.

No kidding. You don't need an f'ing doctorate to tell you that you aren't feeling well and you just need rest, proper nourishment and plenty of water. The human body is well-adapted to figuring out the basic crap on it's on, without you even thinking about it.


Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

A lot of people have PTO instead of "sick" and "vacation" time, so it's the same thing anyway.

My issue is with the deception, not the terminology.

KT

WTF Business is it of their's why you want the day off? No matter the reason they shouldn't have the right to tell you how you can use your PTO.
 

alkemyst

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Originally posted by: Injury
Originally posted by: Citrix
there is nothing wrong with my doctor. if i am sick with a 24 hour stomach bug, bad cold or flu there is no reason to see a doctor and waste their time with a illness that they can do nothing for.

No kidding. You don't need an f'ing doctorate to tell you that you aren't feeling well and you just need rest, proper nourishment and plenty of water. The human body is well-adapted to figuring out the basic crap on it's on, without you even thinking about it.


Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

A lot of people have PTO instead of "sick" and "vacation" time, so it's the same thing anyway.

My issue is with the deception, not the terminology.

KT

WTF Business is it of their's why you want the day off? No matter the reason they shouldn't have the right to tell you how you can use your PTO.

Because Asshat..they give you certain days off for certain reasons.

Sick time is time they'd rather not give, but acknowledge people do get sick. They are banking it's not fully used by everyone.

Our company USED to allow 6 sick occurances. The sick occurance allowed up to 5 business days of paid time out of work.

They found an alarmingly high percentage of people using all 30 days every year.

We are down to 5 sick days....any sick day used in conjunction with a holiday needs a doctor's note.
 

RGN

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I've not used a sick day in 5 years. That is what vacation time is for.
 

mugs

Lifer
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Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Originally posted by: IamBusby
no point calling in if your actually sick as you won't enjoy your day off as much

QFT. I hardly call in sick when I'm actually sick.

Don't go to work when you're sick. I usually just work from home when I'm sick. Don't want to make other people sick.
 

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Lifer
Apr 29, 2003
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Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: trmiv
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Calling in sick when not sick is not cool in my opinion. Just take a vacation day.

KT

A lot of people have PTO instead of "sick" and "vacation" time, so it's the same thing anyway.

My issue is with the deception, not the terminology.

KT

That's my point, it's not deception if it's PTO. PTO is unspecified leave, personal time off, you can take it for whatever reason. If a company has a PTO policy they can't say jack shit if you wake up in the morning and call in that you aren't coming in that day for whatever reason.

Not entirely true. Even if you have unclassified PTO, the company can still restrict how you use it. They can require a certain amount of notice to take your PTO if you aren't sick.
 

Pepsi90919

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Originally posted by: PrinceofWands
Good for you! Americans seriously need to learn to let the whole job thing go a little. Utterly ridiculous mindset.

:beer:

yes americans need to learn how to be more lazy
 

Gothgar

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Sep 1, 2004
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Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Originally posted by: IamBusby
no point calling in if your actually sick as you won't enjoy your day off as much

QFT. I hardly call in sick when I'm actually sick.

yeah, if you are going to be sick and miserable, might as well do it at work!
 

Linux23

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Apr 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Gothgar
Originally posted by: SpunkyJones
Originally posted by: IamBusby
no point calling in if your actually sick as you won't enjoy your day off as much

QFT. I hardly call in sick when I'm actually sick.

yeah, if you are going to be sick and miserable, might as well do it at work!

not if your job requires attention to detail, and fvcking up is not an option.
 

KarmaPolice

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This is when I think owning your own business would be great...but then you have to remember that when you own your own business...you are always working, even when you are sick.
 

Kev

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Originally posted by: E equals MC2
Yada yada. Don't come in here in a typical high-nosed ATOT fashion telling me how irresponsible I am, I don't deserve my work, blah blah.

I do a damn good job at my work (project manager). But I'm just REALLY not motivated today.

Emailed me boss. I'm gonna stay in and enjoy my weekend. :beer:

Mental health day FTW
 

Casawi

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I really thought about doing the same thing. It is that time of the year !

Enjoy
 

Alphathree33

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I don't understand these companies you people work at.

We don't even have a concept of sick "days". If you don't feel well, you can just not come in - or work from home - and no one would give it a second thought.

We're all about results here, not hours logged.
 

Linux23

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Originally posted by: Alphathree33
I don't understand these companies you people work at.

We don't even have a concept of sick "days". If you don't feel well, you can just not come in - or work from home - and no one would give it a second thought.

We're all about results here, not hours logged.

with or without pay?
 

JonTom

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You have no idea how long I've been waiting for a thread like this to come along. It's a celebration!
 
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