I can't believe they friggin said this!

MaxDepth

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I'm looking for work here in NC, when I read this posting on monster.com.

without you having to look, it is Region Sales Manager job. but what kills me is the last sentence: "Lastly, my client will hire the most qualified candidate but is placing special emphasis on female gender candidates if possible. "


well, now. let's forget there is supposed to be a thing called EOE...



edit: the company to which this person would be working isn't a female gender specific comapny, btw. (like Victoria Secret) . It's a cleaning products company.

 

Jzero

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Perhaps they have an all-male sales force and they are actually looking to kick up some diversity....

If you think that's bad, the owner of a local newspaper here posted a half-page ad that he was looking for an attractive woman to be his secretary.

He's married, too.
 

Factor5

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if the workforce was all female and they only wanted to hire female, but there was no reason to, then i can see this becoming a problem, but otherwise, it's ok by me.
 

WinkOsmosis

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They want a woman because they can pay a woman less. I think women are paid an average of like 70% what men are paid for the same jobs.
 

eakers

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Originally posted by: MaxDepth
edit: the company to which this person would be working isn't a female gender specific comapny, btw. (like Victoria Secret) . It's a cleaning products company.

hahahahahahaha
too easy

waaaaay too easy.

 

CraigRT

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Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
edit: the company to which this person would be working isn't a female gender specific comapny, btw. (like Victoria Secret) . It's a cleaning products company.

hahahahahahaha
too easy

waaaaay too easy.

haha, i was going to post something else before i saw this.
 

Maetryx

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Diversity is not a more vital interest than someone's expectation of gender-neutral hiring. Indeed, diversity should not be a mandated or quota driven selection criteria.
 

xSauronx

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Originally posted by: Maetryx
Diversity is not a more vital interest than someone's expectation of gender-neutral hiring. Indeed, diversity should not be a mandated or quota driven selection criteria.

what really bugs me is when race comes into it....that is, when someone of a particular ethnicity is hired for "diversity" than because they are the most qualified

but um....maybe they just like wimmin there
 

her209

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Originally posted by: GoodToGo
There is nothing wrong with that. As Jzero said, they want some diversity.
It sucks to have to look at ugly women all day.
 

bonk102

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Originally posted by: eakers
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
edit: the company to which this person would be working isn't a female gender specific comapny, btw. (like Victoria Secret) . It's a cleaning products company.

hahahahahahaha
too easy

waaaaay too easy.

and here i was expecting that kind of a response from a guy, not from a female, ah well
 

tcsenter

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Well should the manufacturer/marketer of a line of Afro-centric hair care products be forced to hire a white as their regional salesmen? That would go over real well. haha

They may want a female regional sales manager because more companies are finding that women make killer sales managers, or because they believe their clients will be more responsive/receptive to a female than a male, or they may need to fill some 'affirmative action' quota to make some local feminist group happy, but I doubt they seek a women because they want to pay her less. Women make less because they do things like take 12 weeks off for maternity leave, and it is certainly reasonable to pay a premium for personnel who can be relied upon.

Imagine a female sales representative for an autoparts or tools distributor. Heavily male dominated industry at both ends. The sales person who will be best received is the one who can come in and talk about golf, basketball, football, drag racing, NASCAR, the new Snap-On pin-up calender, and of course, automotive parts/tools/supplies/service.

I know one woman who could do that, she's a police officer who drag races on the week ends. By comparison, I know 100 guys who could do that. To be honest, the woman would probably lose accounts to competitors who have male salesmen, because their clients are more receptive to men no matter how well a woman can talk about football or AC service port fittings. Companies should not be FORCED to lose business so we can all feel warm and fuzzy about diversity. They should be allowed to go with what gets results, whatever that may be.

If we just want to feel warm and fuzzy about diversity, then I assert my affirmative action status to break-in to the afrocentric hair care industry, since I'm fairly certain the penetrance of white males hawking Jerry Curl to afrocentric salons is around a whopping zero percent, and that is extremely disproportionate to our representation in society.

And no, you can't fire me because the arrangement turns out to be a major flop, since the goal is to feel warm and fuzzy about diversity, not allowing companies to go with what gets results, even if it is detrimental to the company's business.
 
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