I didn't realize how popular Macs were

[Ns1]

I thought your first post was sarcastic. :|

It was. Statement still true though lol

 

[Jeff7]

The look on my face when Matlab got a ribbon menu was horrifying.

And the new "Creo" versions of Pro Engineer also have it.

I downloaded the demo version.


It took me a few minutes to draw a symmetric box. That's normally under 20 seconds. I guess if I had time to acclimate to the interface, that would improve. And the interface in Pro-E Wildfire is......not good. (There are numerous descriptors I could choose from. "Not good" is being very friendly.)

 

[AdamK47]

The downfall of civilization.

 

[notposting]

Ha about this. Dell's been making the same laptops for going on 15 years now. Plastic, 1in thick, 8lbs and like 3 hour battery life.

Hey now that's what I'm typing on right now! (and it's new as of summer -- build quality isn't any better than the last couple of super cheap Acer's we had).

 

[vi edit]

And paying out the ass to do so?

Oh wait, they're paying for "degrees".

I guess when mommy and daddy are footing the bill, why not.

Sorry, just have troubles wrapping my head around ones ability to talk about wasting money when you have a $200 video card in your link.

People have different needs/wants. Because they don't match up to yours doesn't make them dumb/trendy/whatever adjective you want to imply.

I've been a windows user for going on 20 years. I remember staffing computer labs in college in the late 90's making fun of the crashed Macs that lined the wall in one lab. There was only one or two out of about a dozen that would work at any given time. All the rest had that goofy "Mac" face stuck on the boot screen.

Times change, needs change. I picked up a Macbook air a few years back and it's one of the best computing purchases I've made. It has a better trackpad than any other laptop I have ever used/owned. It's nearly as light as tablet. The battery life is excellent. It's fast, has a sleep/recovery speed and consistency that Windows couldn't dream of. And it's got some included "consumer productivity" features like the video and photo apps that area great combination of useful & easy that I have yet to replace on a Windows machine. Toss in integration like the iCloud photo stream from iPhones and things like Face Time and it's just a very nice ecosystem.

I research my products well. There's not a serious competitor to the Macbook Air in my opinion. There's other ultrabook but they all have some cheapy quirk or lack of polish (trackpads and drivers that don't suck for them) that can't match a Macbook. The app suite Apple bundles is just icing on the cake for a lot of people.

When it comes time to replace the device, I can still resell it for a very good amount of money further reducing my total outlay for a new device. Can't say the same for Winbook.

There's nothing dumb or foolish about the purchase. It does what I need, does it well, and still has a high resale value if I want to upgrade. In three years will that $200 video card still have 50%-60% of it's value?

 

[ControlD]

I research my products well. There's not a serious competitor to the Macbook Air in my opinion. There's other ultrabook but they all have some cheapy quirk or lack of polish (trackpads and drivers that don't suck for them) that can't match a Macbook. The app suite Apple bundles is just icing on the cake for a lot of people.

I agree with you on this point. My wife wanted an ultrabook styled device and the only one that had all of the features she required was the Macbook Air. Everything else out there had one or more compromises. She hates OSX but still wouldn't give up the Air because there isn't anything out there to replace it with.

 

[Ns1]

^^

Good points re: iPhoto/iMovie. They are clearly head and shoulders above the included windows products (and iWork too, now that I think about it)

Sure iWork ain't no office, but it's free and clearly superior to word pad (not taking into account coding of course)

 

[Mixolydian]

Where we do actual work.

Yeah, all those people in the graphic design, publishing, music, and film industries don't do a damn thing.

 

[Puppies04]

Walking around campus, I easily count 10 macbooks for every PC I see. It doesn't help that I attend the University of Spoiled Children (USC), but Jaysus Choist, seeing PC marketshare below 10% anywhere makes me sad inside. Well, mostly because I know the vast majority of them spent well over $1k on their MacBook Pros just to surf Facebook. On the plus side, they're not built like pieces of shit like HPs and Dells.

Seems like MS is mostly dead in the consumer market these days.

What are you dissing on dells for, if you bought a $400 mac it would be a built like a piece of shit... oh sorry i forgot you can't even buy an apple phone for that kind of pocket change.

My XPS17 is several years old now and still performs as well as the day it came out of the box (better in fact as i installed an SSD).

You get what you pay for, at least Dell give you the choice to spend less if all you want to do is surf the net.

 

[JM Aggie08]

And paying out the ass to do so?

Oh wait, they're paying for "degrees".

I guess when mommy and daddy are footing the bill, why not.

Waaaah stopping liking what I don't like :'(

 

[Ns1]

Yeah, all those people in the graphic design, publishing, music, and film industries don't do a damn thing.

The Creatives run OSX
The Business runs windows

At least that's my experience working at a studio

 

[vi edit]

My MBA is a glorified "Netbook" in reality. But it's also the most heavily used computer in the house by a longshot. I'd go so far as to say it's used 90% of the time. I've got a Quad core 3550k intel setup in my office that I use to rip blu-rays to our media hub for the kids. But the MBA does all other stuff in the house. I like the photo app a lot, the basic filters and adjustments work great for me and beat the hell out of adjusting in other freebie apps I've tried. I like not having to constantly worry about malicious installs nuking safari and slapping toolbars and various other crap all over the place. I like that turns off when I close the lid and is ready to work within 2-3 seconds of opening it back up. I've *NEVER* had a windows laptop work that smooth/reliably.

I still don't have half a clue what I'm doing in the rest of OSX. It's annoying that it takes what seems like 8 fingers to take a screenshot. I don't like the missing page up/down keys. But at least with better touch tool I can three finger tap on the trackpad to mimmic it. Try doing that with a windows notebook and a horrible synaptics driver that typically ship with them.

 

[lxskllr]

I still don't have half a clue what I'm doing in the rest of OSX. It's annoying that it takes what seems like 8 fingers to take a screenshot. I don't like the missing page up/down keys. But at least with better touch tool I can three finger tap on the trackpad to mimmic it. Try doing that with a windows notebook and a horrible synaptics driver that typically ship with them.

That's a hell of a sales pitch. Screenshots are painful, standard keys are non-existent, but at least the touchpad works as well as a 5 year old version of Ubuntu :^D

 

[_Rick_]

Apple does one thing right: Marketing.
But as I have only rarely need for a laptop (and I've never had a good experience with one - they are always crippled), they have no product that is actually interesting.

And don't even get me started on the new Mac Pro.
"Darling, I shrunk the PC, and now everything is proprietary!"

but it's shiny, so everybody flocks to it.

 

[Theb]

I still don't have half a clue what I'm doing in the rest of OSX. It's annoying that it takes what seems like 8 fingers to take a screenshot. I don't like the missing page up/down keys. But at least with better touch tool I can three finger tap on the trackpad to mimmic it. Try doing that with a windows notebook and a horrible synaptics driver that typically ship with them.

command + shift + 4 and there's a .jpg on your desktop.
I instantly liked Apple's screenshot feature.

 

[Ns1]

command + shift + 4 and there's a .jpg on your desktop.
I instantly liked Apple's screenshot feature.

You mean hitting prt screen/going to paint/hitting paste/saving isn't faster???

 

[ViviTheMage]

Depending which school/campus I go to for the U of M, I see about 50-60% in favor of windows and 30-40% to mac.

 

[vi edit]

command + shift + 4 and there's a .jpg on your desktop. I instantly liked Apple's screenshot feature.

I'd rather hit a key that says "print screen", and then let me paste it into whatever app I want it in. Just seems easier to me than remembering something that makes no sense.

 

[vi edit]

You mean hitting prt screen/going to paint/hitting paste/saving isn't faster???

Even better for me is one note or snipping tool(win7) that lets me actually select the area that I want and then save it under a meaningful name.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Even better for me is one note or snipping tool(win7) that lets me actually select the area that I want and then save it under a meaningful name.

snip is aweeeeeesome.

 

[lxskllr]

 

[Ns1]

Even better for me is one note or snipping tool(win7) that lets me actually select the area that I want and then save it under a meaningful name.

you mean like this?

Command-Shift-3 Capture the screen to a file
Command-Shift-Control-3 Capture the screen to the Clipboard
Command-Shift-4 Capture a selection to a file
Command-Shift-Control-4 Capture a selection to the Clipboard

 

[Theb]

I'd rather hit a key that says "print screen", and then let me paste it into whatever app I want it in. Just seems easier to me than remembering something that makes no sense.

I like not needing a separate program. The snipping tool in 7 is pretty good, but I love command + shift + 3/4

 

[vi edit]

you mean like this?

Command-Shift-Control-3 Capture the screen to the Clipboard

That's actually the one I was jesting about. That's four keys you need to hit and I have to do it so infrequently I have to google the freaking thing everytime to remember.

Printscreen. One finger. One button. *shakes cane*

 

[Ns1]

That's actually the one I was jesting about. That's four keys you need to hit and I have to do it so infrequently I have to google the freaking thing everytime to remember.

Printscreen. One finger. One button. *shakes cane*

That accurately describes it. Lol