I didn't realize how popular Macs were

[HeXen]

That's the thing, it actually doesn't require the PC you suggest. A gaming PC with a high end quad core i7 would be capable of running that software probably faster than even a high end normal laptop.

There is no reason for anyone to design a laptop for software that is focused on one part of the engineering field. The vast majority of engineers don't touch that software because it doesn't apply to their field and of the number that do, how many are going to buy a laptop and of that number, how many MUST have a laptop without good graphics (gaming) performance? The number is exceedingly small.

You've already made yourselves a captive audience by using software that won't run on a Mac. If they don't make these laptops, what will you do? Stop using the software, or buy either an ultra book or a gaming PC?

And eat up the battery like no other. Why do you want everything to be gaming PC's? Moar power? lol. There's always cons but not everyone wants to pay the extra for a chip they really don't actually need nor have their batteries turned to moosh

 

[Zaap]

You really think the Note 3 white would exist with that look if Apple designs had never existed? High-end gadgets were almost never white before iPod. Apple definitely set a trend there.

Wait, so Apple pioneered the color white?

I don't even know what to say to that.

As said, the Note 3 is based on the SGS2 design and previous Note models, all of which predate the Mini.

 

[Ichinisan]

Wait, so Apple pioneered the color white?

I don't even know what to say to that.

As said, the Note 3 is based on the SGS2 design and previous Note models, all of which predate the Mini.

Don't tell me that the white Note 3 touch-screen smartphone would look like that if Apple had not influenced design across the industry. It's a fact that Apple is generally a trend setter when it comes to design of gadgets and gizmos. To say otherwise is ignorance.

Yes. Electronics were almost never white until Apple made it "cool." Remember beige PCs? I, for one, prefer the black iPhone...but other iDevices look good in white (iPad mini).

...and it's a lot more than just the white color. A lot more.

No one suggests that Apple was the first to make a white gizmo or gadget, but other manufacturers didn't start any trends with it. Apple did.

Oh. SGS2:

Where have I seen a touch screen smartphone with a chrome edge around the face? :hmm:

 

[Zaap]

LOL. Whatever dude.

 

[Ichinisan]

LOL. Whatever dude.

Indeed.

 

[TreVader]

And eat up the battery like no other. Why do you want everything to be gaming PC's? Moar power? lol. There's always cons but not everyone wants to pay the extra for a chip they really don't actually need nor have their batteries turned to moosh

The only person asking for "Moar Power" is you, I think you could do just as well with a <$900 ultrabook. What are you asking for here?

A high end PC without dedicated graphics will still eat up battery like crazy when running intense encoding and decoding apps (video, audio, or other).


Face it, there is zero reason for anybody to produce a PC laptop with high end specs that isn't good for gaming. Nobody needs one, and that's why nobody is buying them. The entire PC laptop market is Ultrabooks now... with a few oddities in the middle and a small subset of XPS/alienware laptops.

Ultrabooks are great. I don't see why you can't do just fine with one, it's not like they aren't very capable and cheap. They just aren't going to be up to par with a rMBP

 

[GregGreen]

The Creatives run OSX
The Business runs windows

At least that's my experience working at a studio

I've had similar experiences. And the business people continually comment how jealous they are that they don't get MBPs instead of ThinkPads

 

[Eug]

The only person asking for "Moar Power" is you

That's is of course bull.

I think you could do just as well with a <$900 ultrabook.

That's mighty condescending.

 

[HeXen]

The only person asking for "Moar Power" is you, I think you could do just as well with a <$900 ultrabook. What are you asking for here?

lmao. Try to follow along at least.

 

[Shlong]

Don't tell me that the white Note 3 touch-screen smartphone would look like that if Apple had not influenced design across the industry. It's a fact that Apple is generally a trend setter when it comes to design of gadgets and gizmos. To say otherwise is ignorance.

Yes. Electronics were almost never white until Apple made it "cool." Remember beige PCs? I, for one, prefer the black iPhone...but other iDevices look good in white (iPad mini).

...and it's a lot more than just the white color. A lot more.

No one suggests that Apple was the first to make a white gizmo or gadget, but other manufacturers didn't start any trends with it. Apple did.

Oh. SGS2:

Where have I seen a touch screen smartphone with a chrome edge around the face? :hmm:

Come on now, Samsung had chrome edges on their devices before the iphone was even revealed.

2006 P310i

2007 SGH-P520

As did another device by LG

 

[MrX8503]

Ah the LG Prada. The phone that people like to bring up that runs on Flash Lite.

 

[Zaap]

Come on now, Samsung had chrome edges on their devices before the iphone was even revealed.

Eh, facts don't matter to the "Samsung copied Apple!" obsessed. Once you realize you're dealing with an extreme case of it, all one can do is laugh and walk away. Dates, timelines, etc. none of matters. The goalposts just change. First it's the Mini, then it's the iPod, then it's the white color, next it's the chrome edge, next it'll be something else, like Samsung copying Apple's non-existent iWatch or something.

 

[Joe1987]

All this has been hashed and rehashed for years, can we just lock this thread please?

 

[Ichinisan]

Come on now, Samsung had chrome edges on their devices before the iphone was even revealed.

2006 P310i

2007 SGH-P520

As did another device by LG

I guess that's your idea of a "trend."

Now there's an example of "moving the goal post."

Even when I was an anti-Apple zealot, I still acknowledged Apple's obvious influence on design trends. If you don't recognize it, you are lying to yourself.

When I talk about the chrome ring around the face, I'm talking about a very specific design that was used on phones of numerous brands and models after the iPhone 3G was released.

No buttons in the chrome; not really on the side; visible from the front. I've seen it with countless others brands. I have no doubt that the designers wouldn't hesitate to tell you that element was influenced by iPhone...but their legal / marketing teams would not let them say it because Apple is so litigious.

As I already said, Apple isn't necessarily the first to use a particular design element, but Apple routinely and consistently starts design trends. Setting a trend doesn't mean you were the first. Understand?

For the record, I don't think Apple should get away with suing tablet manufacturers over the rounded rectangle design. It's ridiculous.

 

[Rottie]

I have seen a lot of Mac funboys drive a Beemer.

 

[jetlitheone]

Pretty much popular everywhere but windows PC's sell a lot more.

But only people with MacBooks seem to leave the house with them.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I have seen a lot of Mac funboys drive a Beemer.

I am such a person. The brands do seem to have a lot of overlap.

 

[Ns1]

I am such a person. The brands do seem to have a lot of overlap.

People with disposable income like to buy nice things? No shit?

 

[Joe1987]

I have seen a lot of Mac funboys drive a Beemer.

Z3M here

 

[Fritzo]

Z3M here

LOL- I have a Macbook and an iPad mini and have a 330Ci. Not much of a fanboy though.

 

[Wolfovich]

Many people think that Apple products are only popular because they look good. Yes, they have a sleek design, and the logo is appealing (to the point where one can say it's a fashion statement), but the quality is there too.

I've never had any security/malware issues with my MacBook Pro. Even after installing Avast, no viruses were ever found. Pretty impressive, considering that my browsing habits are rather diverse. That really helps me sleep better at night.

 

[Cerb]

Face it, there is zero reason for anybody to produce a PC laptop with high end specs that isn't good for gaming. Nobody needs one, and that's why nobody is buying them.

If that is so, why do they keep offering them for sale? Lenovo hasn't stopped offering Thinkpad Ws, Dell hasn't stopped offering Precisions, and that's just off the top of my head. I'm sure HP and Fujitsu have similar offerings, too. Somebody must buy them, or they'd stop selling them, rather than keep on updating them every year or two.

 

[slashbinslashbash]

the logo is appealing (to the point where one can say it's a fashion statement)

If Apple had a "Logo Delete" option on the MBP's then I would pay, say, $50 for it. I covered my white MacBook top with bumper stickers. I haven't had the heart to deface my MBP yet, but I feel the shining white Apple logo on the backside of the screen just attracts attention when I don't necessarily want it. (Including from little kids, i.e. nieces/nephews who want to touch the computer because they can see the Apple glowing from across the room)

SO glad they don't make the Apple on the back of the iPhones light up. (BTW I also can't stand the OtterBoxes that have the cutout just to show the logo... WTF?)

Also, on the build quality issue, IMO Apple has a trump card in the MagSafe connector. My first laptop was a Compaq, a pretty nice one ($1700 or so?) purchased in 1999. (14.1" Active Matrix screen baby! K6-2 CPU @ 350MHz, later upgraded to K6-2+ @ 450, 64MB -> 192MB RAM, 4.3GB HDD, 8MB ATI discrete graphics, I think a Rage Pro?) After about 1.5-2 years of use as my only PC, the power connector started going on the fritz. So I got a docking station and.... after a year or two, the power connector on it started going on the fritz. I'm talking the internal connector, which is soldered to the motherboard and which is not usually well-braced by the shell of the laptop.

Anyone who actually uses their laptop as a laptop (taking it with them on a regular basis, using it in bed, on the couch, etc.) knows that you can't keep the power cord at the exact same ideal stress-free angle all the time. Sometimes it will be hanging off the edge of a table, sometimes it will be coming from a weird angle. In any case, I have had 2 or 3 other experiences like this with other family members' laptops besides my own, and damned if I wasn't whistling a tune when Apple came out with MagSafe. My wife and I have gone through 5-6 MagSafe cords in the 7 or so years that we've owned Intel MacBooks, but that's far better than having to replace a motherboard due to a shorted power connector.

 

[phillyboy]

Yeah, all those people in the graphic design, publishing, music, and film industries don't do a damn thing.

I was going to make a snarky comment about AutoCAD and Matlab being on OS X as well, but I'll hold back :biggrin:. At least my Uni had dual-boot Windows/Red Hat workstations on the Engineering campus so you could pick your poison.

Anyways, OS X = Linux/Unix that you don't have to screw around with for a week to get it to (mostly) work. Especially on laptops. The end.

 

[Joe1987]

LOL- I have a Macbook and an iPad mini and have a 330Ci. Not much of a fanboy though.

TBH, I have no great love for BMW's, but I do love my silly little car I started down the slippery slope with Miata's, and could just as well bought any number of convertibles, just happened on what I bought, and I'm sure I'd love an S2000, RX7, newer Miata, etc.