I dislike atheists

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: skillyho

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.

From birth they are brought up in the church. Some go to religious schools, always being around religious people. Thier views are never contradicted or challenged. They never encounter anyone who doesnt hold thier beliefs. And when they do encounter these people in public, religion is probably not brought up. The friends they met were probably from the church or school, so everyone they associate with is on the same boat (or ark?).

Then along comes the internet/message boards, where ideas flow freely. What a shock it must be to the god-squad that there are people out there who didnt get caught up in the fish-net that is youth indoctrination. In a way, I feel sorry for them. It is hard not to have your mind molded when it is started so young.

What about the people who didn't grow up in said environment and made a cognitive choice to go for it?

From birth those poor atheists are brought up in secular schools, always being around other religiously ignorant people. Their views are always confirmed and edified. They never encounter anyone who doesn't hold their beliefs..and when they do encounter these people in public, they go absolutely banana bonkers to vindicate their on preconceived notion of what is, in actuality, a decision they never made in the first place themselves.

See how lame that sounds from the other side?
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Oh and GagHalfrunt.....may I remind you and your poor comprehension skills that just b/c you interpret my query as a theory to support the OP, it aint so.

No, that didnt work, sorry.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

And think of what would happen if an atheist ran for public office. They'd probably never make a showing beyond 10% of what Ron Paul managed to get.

Too many people seem to live with the delusion that it is impossible to have any code of ethics without some overbearing deity threatening you with eternal punishment, or enticing you with eternal bliss. Therefore, any atheist candidate would legalize murder and rape, and encourage forcing children to pedal bicycles, to the death, to alleviate our energy problems. They eat babies, too.

 

[skillyho]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: skillyho

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.
*snips*

No, that didnt work, sorry.

Do I at least get an E for Effort?

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

Sometimes sure. Not typically online though. I'm not gonna do the research, but I'd bet if one were to search the OT threads, there'd be a 10:1 ratio of threads created by atheists slamming religion.

I mean fuck...I grew up near the bible belt. I didn't get harrassed nearly as much IRL as religious people do online by atheists (well, atleast at ATOT...I don't frequent other forums).

I'm just saying the OP has some valid points.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I don't know any atheists in real life and all that I have met over the years have been online, mostly through games. I have come to the conclusion that atheists really try to push their views onto you and bring you down for believing in God. I, as a Roman Catholic, don't go around parading my religion or views onto anyone. I respect peoples views and have a "to each and his own approach".


The online community is whack /thread

At least Atheists don't come knocking on my door.

That's one of my peeves as well. The Jehovah's witnesses, Latter Day Saints and all these other religions going door to door.

It's bad enough when you have missionaries going out to the countries where the native's don't have a pot to piss in and tell them that Jesus loves them and if they don't believe in them they are going to hell. The people in Darfur, Sudan and the likes are already in hell... If you are going over there to handout food, educate the children, teach them how to get by and prosper fine. If you are going over there with the clothes on your back, bible and false promises of everything will be alright while taking food from the bellies of starving children, you are a false witness.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

And think of what would happen if an atheist ran for public office. They'd probably never make a showing beyond 10% of what Ron Paul managed to get.

I'd say an atheist shot at the white house is slim to none right now, but we do have an atheist in the House

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

Sometimes sure. Not typically online though. I'm not gonna do the research, but I'd bet if one were to search the OT threads, there'd be a 10:1 ratio of threads created by atheists slamming religion.

I mean fuck...I grew up near the bible belt. I didn't get harrassed nearly as much IRL as religious people do online by atheists (well, atleast at ATOT...I don't frequent other forums).

I'm just saying the OP has some valid points.

2000 years of being tortured and burned at the stake will do that to a group of people. The online atheist fanatacism will chill out over time. You're just witnessing the elation of freedom for the first time after thousands of years of banging heads against a wall every time someone said something like "He works in mysterious ways."

 

[Eeezee]

I'm a Roman Catholic. If an atheist tries to push their views on me, I remind them that they're being hypocritical and stupid.

Anyone who tries to push their faith (or lack of faith) on others is closed-minded and should be ignored. Faith (or lack of faith) does not give you permission to act like an ass.

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: DVad3r
Priest was powerful . . .and performed exorcisms, which he would not discuss.

OMG! I know I'm going to your hell for this, but I can see it all now!

Priest in Action: "The Anti-Christ is up your anus, Beelzebub is buried in your bum! Fear not, I shall root him out with my sanctified staff! Drop your secular shorts, sinner, and prepare to receive my hot and heavenly host!" :shocked: :laugh:

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Eeezee
I'm a Roman Catholic. If an atheist tries to push their views on me, I remind them that they're being hypocritical and stupid.

Have you ever really had an atheist try to push their view on you? I never have . . . only annoying and arrogant fundies and the like.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

Sometimes sure. Not typically online though. I'm not gonna do the research, but I'd bet if one were to search the OT threads, there'd be a 10:1 ratio of threads created by atheists slamming religion.

I mean fuck...I grew up near the bible belt. I didn't get harrassed nearly as much IRL as religious people do online by atheists (well, atleast at ATOT...I don't frequent other forums).

I'm just saying the OP has some valid points.

2000 years of being tortured and burned at the stake will do that to a group of people. The online atheist fanatacism will chill out over time. You're just witnessing the elation of freedom for the first time after thousands of years of banging heads against a wall every time someone said something like "He works in mysterious ways."

Justifying today's actions with events from more than 20 years ago is idiocy. Hell, 100 years ago atheism was okay in many parts of the world (and even if it was looked down on, you weren't going to be burned at the stake for being an atheist anymore). Remember, the USA was founded by a group of atheists, agnostics, deists, and Christians.

In any case, no one on this board has had to deal with real religious persecution. Some of the atheists around here act no better than the inquisitors of old. Just because some religious assholes decided to be dicks 1000 years ago doesn't give anyone license to be an asshole about it today.

 

[Verbrennenkinder]

atheist 100%

there are only 2 things that will make me change my beliefs:

1. God, Jesus or whatever shows up, and proves to me that they really did everything in the bible.

2. A being from another planet shows up with a religious book that has an identical story to the koran, bible, ect

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Perknose

Originally posted by: Eeezee
I'm a Roman Catholic. If an atheist tries to push their views on me, I remind them that they're being hypocritical and stupid.

Have you ever really had an atheist try to push their view on you? I never have . . . only annoying and arrogant fundies and the like.

Yes

Have you ever actually stepped into one of the atheism vs religion threads on ATOT? They're full of crazy people, religious and non-religious alike! I can pull up a list of threads with atheists trying to push their views on others if you'd like...

I find your post interesting though. You used the word 'fundies' clearly meaning religious fundamentalists, but every group has fundamentalists! Some atheists make a strong effort of converting others. That's the entire point of most of the atheism vs religion threads on ATOT, is it not? Some of the atheist zealots come out to convert others, some of the religious zealots come out to convert others, and the rest of us can't figure out why and end up being called names by one side or the other.

Edit: I should also clarify, I'm not super religious. Most Roman Catholics aren't. That's the whole point of being Catholic; you don't have to go to church, just be nice to others. Most atheists seem to believe that every Christian takes the Bible as literal. Most of us don't.

Hell, my priest (who I only see maybe twice a year) likes to hurry along Sunday mass because he doesn't want to miss football. Sing a hymn, listen to the priest tell a good story and a funny joke, drink some wine, eat a cracker, go home. I don't see what's wrong with that. If you don't want to join the club, you don't have to. The 1% of Christians who are zealots give the rest of us a bad name (just as the 1% of atheists who are zealots do the same).

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Perknose
Have you ever really had an atheist try to push their view on you? I never have . . . only annoying and arrogant fundies and the like.

Yes. See my post about anuses and vocal cords.

 

[Evander]

Probably the atheists you've met are sick of being attacked on all sides and have decided the strike back. According to this study, we are America's least trusted minority:
http://exchristian.net/2/2006/...-as-americas-most.html

My philosophy in life is that if you stay out of my way I will stay out of yours, so I haven't been acting like the atheists you describe and I don't think I'll have to as I see religion in America going down the same road it has in Western Europe.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.

From birth they are brought up in the church. Some go to religious schools, always being around religious people. Thier views are never contradicted or challenged. They never encounter anyone who doesnt hold thier beliefs. And when they do encounter these people in public, religion is probably not brought up. The friends they met were probably from the church or school, so everyone they associate with is on the same boat (or ark?).

Then along comes the internet/message boards, where ideas flow freely. What a shock it must be to the god-squad that there are people out there who didnt get caught up in the fish-net that is youth indoctrination. In a way, I feel sorry for them. It is hard not to have your mind molded when it is started so young.

You're a moron and your thread makes no sense. You could easily make the same argument for atheists. If you can't make that basic step in logic, then you're no better than the relig-nuts that you're railing against.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.

From birth they are brought up in the church. Some go to religious schools, always being around religious people. Thier views are never contradicted or challenged. They never encounter anyone who doesnt hold thier beliefs. And when they do encounter these people in public, religion is probably not brought up. The friends they met were probably from the church or school, so everyone they associate with is on the same boat (or ark?).

Then along comes the internet/message boards, where ideas flow freely. What a shock it must be to the god-squad that there are people out there who didnt get caught up in the fish-net that is youth indoctrination. In a way, I feel sorry for them. It is hard not to have your mind molded when it is started so young.

You're a moron and your thread makes no sense. You could easily make the same argument for atheists. If you can't make that basic step in logic, then you're no better than the relig-nuts that you're railing against.

Hmmm......classic response Because people go to "Athiest" schools, and on Sundays they all hangout and talk about how there is no-gawd for an hour. Then they pass a bucket around to fill with money for a tax-exempt organization, that goes to spreading the word of no-gawd around the world. Oh, and also to pay settlements of the Athiest-priests who touched little boys.

 

[torpid]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
Hmmm......classic response Because people go to "Athiest" schools, and on Sundays they all hangout and talk about how there is no-gawd for an hour.

Actually I think there is a school similar to the above. It was in the news in the past year or so. They replaced a lot of lyrics of religious songs with "secular" lyrics. I'll see if I can dig up the link.

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.

From birth they are brought up in the church. Some go to religious schools, always being around religious people. Thier views are never contradicted or challenged. They never encounter anyone who doesnt hold thier beliefs. And when they do encounter these people in public, religion is probably not brought up. The friends they met were probably from the church or school, so everyone they associate with is on the same boat (or ark?).

Then along comes the internet/message boards, where ideas flow freely. What a shock it must be to the god-squad that there are people out there who didnt get caught up in the fish-net that is youth indoctrination. In a way, I feel sorry for them. It is hard not to have your mind molded when it is started so young.

You're a moron and your thread makes no sense. You could easily make the same argument for atheists. If you can't make that basic step in logic, then you're no better than the relig-nuts that you're railing against.

Hmmm......classic response

Edit:
Because people go to "Athiest" schools, and on Sundays they all hangout and talk about how there is no-gawd for an hour. Then they pass a bucket around to fill with money for a tax-exempt organization, that goes to spreading the word of no-gawd around the world. Oh, and also to pay settlements of the Athiest-priests who touched little boys.

Great, wink at me instead of making a counterpoint. I'm serious, how can you claim to have a free mind when you're shackled to beliefs that you can't even defend? My belief is that people with a closed mind should STFU, which is why I reply to people like you (and your more religious counterparts). What's your excuse?

Answer me this: Why does anyone else's religious beliefs even matter to you?

Gah, I'm just sick of people like you dragging religion through the mad in such a zealous fashion. What makes your lack of belief so much better? Senseless rhetoric and illogical talking points are all people like you have. You're no better than assholes like Fred Thompson.

Edit - To fix your edited message
Amazing, you've written a whole paragraph and failed to make a single point to defend yourself. Got any other zingers?

 

[Perknose]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Perknose
Have you ever really had an atheist try to push their view on you? I never have . . . only annoying and arrogant fundies and the like.

Yes

[1] Have you ever actually stepped into one of the atheism vs religion threads on ATOT? They're full of crazy people, religious and non-religious alike! I can pull up a list of threads with atheists trying to push their views on others if you'd like...

I find your post interesting though. You used the word 'fundies' clearly meaning religious fundamentalists, but every group has fundamentalists! [2] Some atheists make a strong effort of converting others. That's the entire point of most of the atheism vs religion threads on ATOT, is it not? Some of the atheist zealots come out to convert others, some of the religious zealots come out to convert others, and the rest of us can't figure out why and end up being called names by one side or the other.

[1] I'm talking about IRL. On a forum, YOU have the option never to click on any one thread, or to quit it once you don't LIKE it! You are not having anything pushed on you!

I'm talking about IRL, where the only people who have ever aggressively tried to push their views on me are ultra religious types.

[2] You are mistaking strongly expressing one's opinion, which we ALL do on every topic imaginable here on this board, with trying to convert someone. I have never seen an atheist try to "convert" someone to atheism, but I have experienced dipwads trying to aggressively convert me to their particular religion.

Btw, I am neither an atheist nor an agnostic, but a believer in the divinity of the universe. Some years ago, at the cost of $6,000, I went through an exhaustive and interesting 2 and 1/2 year program and am now an ordained interfaith minister. We learned in depth from highly accredited visiting lecturers from every major religion, and several minor ones. I learned and I grew. But you wouldn't know any of that because I believe religious belief is a private matter between you and your conception of God, and I would never try to impose my beliefs on another, ever.

I have no problem with atheists or agnostics, and I have no problem with believers, save the ones who are so unsure of their own beliefs that they try to validate them by pushing them on others.

The OP is a case in point. He creates a thread solely to whine about atheists, yet casually say THIS about the one atheist he knows IRL:

my friend and I joke around that he is the anti-christ.

Can't you see his rigid intolerance and screaming hypocrisy?

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

honestly, it's the only medium for atheists to vent. I think that's what makes them so incredibly annoying online.

 

[OCGuy]

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Ocguy31

Originally posted by: Eeezee

Originally posted by: Ocguy31
You know, its funny. The relig-nuts go their whole lives in thier little bubble.

From birth they are brought up in the church. Some go to religious schools, always being around religious people. Thier views are never contradicted or challenged. They never encounter anyone who doesnt hold thier beliefs. And when they do encounter these people in public, religion is probably not brought up. The friends they met were probably from the church or school, so everyone they associate with is on the same boat (or ark?).

Then along comes the internet/message boards, where ideas flow freely. What a shock it must be to the god-squad that there are people out there who didnt get caught up in the fish-net that is youth indoctrination. In a way, I feel sorry for them. It is hard not to have your mind molded when it is started so young.

You're a moron and your thread makes no sense. You could easily make the same argument for atheists. If you can't make that basic step in logic, then you're no better than the relig-nuts that you're railing against.

Hmmm......classic response

Edit:
Because people go to "Athiest" schools, and on Sundays they all hangout and talk about how there is no-gawd for an hour. Then they pass a bucket around to fill with money for a tax-exempt organization, that goes to spreading the word of no-gawd around the world. Oh, and also to pay settlements of the Athiest-priests who touched little boys.

Great, wink at me instead of making a counterpoint. I'm serious, how can you claim to have a free mind when you're shackled to beliefs that you can't even defend? My belief is that people with a closed mind should STFU, which is why I reply to people like you (and your more religious counterparts). What's your excuse?

Answer me this: Why does anyone else's religious beliefs even matter to you?

Gah, I'm just sick of people like you dragging religion through the mad in such a zealous fashion. What makes your lack of belief so much better? Senseless rhetoric and illogical talking points are all people like you have. You're no better than assholes like Fred Thompson.

Edit - To fix your edited message
Amazing, you've written a whole paragraph and failed to make a single point to defend yourself. Got any other zingers?

Your name calling is so un-christian of you.

 

[Oyeve]

I am an open-minded-agnostic

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: DVad3r
I don't know any atheists in real life and all that I have met over the years have been online, mostly through games. I have come to the conclusion that atheists really try to push their views onto you and bring you down for believing in God. I, as a Roman Catholic, don't go around parading my religion or views onto anyone. I respect peoples views and have a "to each and his own approach".


The online community is whack /thread

At least Atheists don't come knocking on my door.

That's one of my peeves as well. The Jehovah's witnesses, Latter Day Saints and all these other religions going door to door.

It's bad enough when you have missionaries going out to the countries where the native's don't have a pot to piss in and tell them that Jesus loves them and if they don't believe in them they are going to hell. The people in Darfur, Sudan and the likes are already in hell... If you are going over there to handout food, educate the children, teach them how to get by and prosper fine. If you are going over there with the clothes on your back, bible and false promises of everything will be alright while taking food from the bellies of starving children, you are a false witness.

one thing that often works:

"No Solicitors" sign.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: BeauJangles

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
Meh, I'm agnostic and I'll still agree with the OP on some points.

Obviously, people are generally more respectful IRL (due to the fact that they don't usually want to get punched in the face). Online, however, atheists seem to be a particularly outspoken and venomous group. Sorta the online counterpart to angry evangelists IRL.

Maybe it's because they feel that Christian views are being shoved down their throats.

And think of what would happen if an atheist ran for public office. They'd probably never make a showing beyond 10% of what Ron Paul managed to get.

I'd say an atheist shot at the white house is slim to none right now, but we do have an atheist in the House

I think an atheist would show better than that. It all comes down to the respectful ability to handle oneself. I'm sure a good percentage of people of faith would be more than willing to vote for an atheist, as most of them aren't nutjobs, and agree that one's religious views shouldn't influence policy.

There are plenty of people out there, religious and atheist alike, that are sick of this stranglehold that the extreme-right fundamentalist faction has on one of our major political parties. In fact, it's a bit shocking that they still appear to maintain hegemony during this election, when it's been made quite clear that their influence on the previous 2 major election cycles has been nothing but disastrous.