X99, any particular reason for asking?
There does seem to be a way to get all cores in Haswell CPUs to run at the top multiplier, but I'm not versed in it. A more detailed tutorial would definitely be welcome, but there is a link to some info in this post:You find any way to overclock other than Bus Speed, Dufus? The v3 Xeons seem pretty tightly locked when I last tried to boost them.
Yes, I agree that X99 is still expensive. But X79 boards aren't a lot less, and they are getting harder to find. So when you compare the cost of a complete X79 system versus its performance, and do the same with X99, the X99 looks pretty good. The only place you really save on X79 is with the CPU, and like you said, there are 8 core 2011-3 Xeons for $120. At any rate, either are out of my league at this time, so X58 will be fine.crashtech, if you are going to go 2011-3, and want in the range of 24 threads, then what I am putting together right now would replace the SR-2 setup you were going to get from me, Except, just the motherboard (open box) 4 sticks of ram (you have to use the quad channel ram, I only got 16 gig total), the CPU, and an HSF is in the $700 range, or twice what you were considering, but if you want to, go for it !
Motherboard open box X99-A, $172 including shipping.
4 x 4 gig $123 (you could get 4 x 2 gig, but what a waste)
HSF 612 cooler master (I got it today, and it looks awesome) $43
Total $338
Now pick your CPU
I see a 8 core for as low as $120, and up to mine, 14 core for $356 (shipped) or 16 to 28 threads
A 12 core like the 24 threads the SR-2 has is $197 (shipped) and up
EDIT, except my $356 one that is retail, the rest are all ES or QS, and will not work in that motherboard.
Also, you will need a new PSU probably, so add at least $150-220 for a quality one.
It won't be hard to get most of your money back for the G4400, so it's not a bad mistake, put a quad in there and you are set for dual GPU. But I have been liking the idea of cheap boxen for single GPU DC, they don't take much of a power supply, they're easy to cool, the CPUs are cheap, and not a lot is at risk if something goes wrong. One of my little machines has a Sandy Bridge Celeron in it, and it runs a 1060 just fine. It uses more than 50% of the CPU to do it, but that's all it does, and it puts out the same points as the box with the same GPU and a Skylake i5.OK, I just realized this. So a while back I wanted a home for a PCIE 3.0 card as cheap as possible. So I got the cheapest AMD MB and CPU I could find. The fan is loud, and it sucks power. Then I went one more time, but got Intel to save power. Well, thats good, but the stock HSF is loud, and the dual-core G4400 can barely even keep the single video card fed. So if I put 2 cards in it, now I have to throw away that $65 CPU.
Bottom line..... Never buy 1/2 way, only get good stuff the first time. Now I don't feel so bad getting 2 14 core 2683 systems..... Even though I don;t need the CPU power. And I have started now doing WCG, which seems to like CPU power.
Yes, I agree that X99 is still expensive. But X79 boards aren't a lot less, and they are getting harder to find. So when you compare the cost of a complete X79 system versus its performance, and do the same with X99, the X99 looks pretty good. The only place you really save on X79 is with the CPU, and like you said, there are 8 core 2011-3 Xeons for $120. At any rate, either are out of my league at this time, so X58 will be fine.
It won't be hard to get most of your money back for the G4400, so it's not a bad mistake, put a quad in there and you are set for dual GPU. But I have been liking the idea of cheap boxen for single GPU DC, they don't take much of a power supply, they're easy to cool, the CPUs are cheap, and not a lot is at risk if something goes wrong. One of my little machines has a Sandy Bridge Celeron in it, and it runs a 1060 just fine. It uses more than 50% of the CPU to do it, but that's all it does, and it puts out the same points as the box with the same GPU and a Skylake i5.
Oh, well. I am probably wrong about X79. It could be that when I was looking, there just wasn't that much available, and I was disappointed. YMMV!that $120 8 core won't work in that motherboard. I edited my post.
Maybe so. What about a 2C/4T Kaby Lake Pentium like the G4560? I have one inbound, but what I don't have is the ability to test it with two GPUs. I'd loan it to you in the name of science (once I've put it through its paces of course) if you wanted to see if it could feed a dual GPU rig.As for the G4400, the cheapest quad-core socket 1151 I see is $183 ! I might as well make another E5-2683 system....
Thought I would get something a little cheaper than those v3 chips, they are so expensive especially on a student budget. Do you have any recommendations for motherboard, I was thinking the Asus Z9PE-D8 WS board, but its so expensive at $600Well, thats 2011, not 2011-3, so thats one reason its cheap. Doesn't sound bad to me, just tired of the dual socket motherboards if not required for a lot of cores, due to case size and all. But still a good value for socket 2011.