I don't need another system...I don't need another system...I don't need another system...

[TennesseeTony]

Noctua fans don't win any beauty contests, but they are super silent, and last forever, so nice choice there. Well executed build there, friend. The hidden SSD caddies in the back is a nice feature.

Did your little wooden table come with a chair and footrest? I have a pair of the same little tables, but the chairs/footrests are long gone. Team China strikes again.

And wow, that IS a compact case if it barely overhangs that table.

 

[StefanR5R]

The pedestal is a bare-bones Ikea stool. Measurements of the case are h × w × d = 18.27 in × 8.46 in × 16.73 in (464 mm × 215 mm × 425 mm).

 

[crashtech]

Great compute power/volume ratio there, @StefanR5R !

 

[StefanR5R]

Noctua fans don't win any beauty contests, but they are super silent, and last forever,

They are ugly as Sin itself, and expensive too of course. But I keep buying them because of their sound profile. Longevity and good performance-to-noise ratio factor into this too.

Regarding sound, I do have to say that I haven't made much efforts yet to get a broader picture of what fans are good and which aren't. That takes shopping around, as reviews just aren't sufficient to find out whether fans are truly quiet or not. On the other hand, since I mostly use PWM controlled fans lately, but the fans which are normally bundled with computer cases are DC controlled, I did miss some opportunities to shop around and try other brands. (Years ago I simply stuck with Papst, now I stick with Noctua...)

However, like other brands, Noctua fans too can develop an annoying tonality in an unlucky combination with the computer case or/and dust filter. This sort of problem does not exist with your genius Skeletor "case".

 

[crashtech]

My main criterion for fans now is that first they must possess a 4-pin PWM power connector. Even today this disqualifies most fans for sale at, for instance, Newegg. For several years now I have been using a particular model of "Cougar" fan, not a big name, but so far they've proven to be inexpensive, quiet, and durable. I'll dig up the model number if there's any interest. More recently, the high demand for 120mm fans has persuaded me to find a less expensive Rosewill fan, the jury is out on that one yet, but $10.99 for a PWM fan was an irresistible deal.

 

[IEC]

I have a spare AM4 motherboard right now... along with spare DDR4 RAM, a spare PSU, a spare case, and a spare SSD. You can guess what will happen soon...

I'm just throwing a Ryzen rig or two at the races for now to test the waters, but am planning to build some dedicated DC rigs in the fall. So I'll keep an eye on this thread...

 

[crashtech]

I don't need another system, but I am going to have one, shortly. But I'm torn! Is there any consensus on what is the best execution throughput per dollar, that is more efficient than Westmere? I have a case that can handle a big board, and originally a 2P system was planned. But maybe a single Ryzen is best now? I can't decide.

 

[crashtech]

I'm thinking a Supermicro X9DRI-LN4F+ with 2x E5-2660V2. That's a 40 thread box.

 

[iwajabitw]

I'm thinking a Supermicro X9DRI-LN4F+ with 2x E5-2660V2. That's a 40 thread box.

Nice!

 

[StefanR5R]

Ivy Bridge-EP and C602 are a bit long in the tooth now. But I guess newer generations are more expensive... Edit: ...i.e. worse from the perf/dollar POV.

BTW, the X9DRi-LN4F+ product page says "form factor: enhanced extended ATX". Mounting holes look like SSI-EEB though.

Edit 2: Oh, the board accepts UDIMM, and if push comes to shove non-ECC UDIMM too. Might save some cost compared to registered ECC RAM.

 

[crashtech]

Ivy Bridge-EP and C602 are a bit long in the tooth now. But I guess newer generations are more expensive... Edit: ...i.e. worse from the perf/dollar POV.

BTW, the X9DRi-LN4F+ product page says "form factor: enhanced extended ATX". Mounting holes look like SSI-EEB though.

Edit 2: Oh, the board accepts UDIMM, and if push comes to shove non-ECC UDIMM too. Might save some cost compared to registered ECC RAM.

Thanks for the input, Stefan! Indeed, in my situation, my means are somewhat limited, but I am able to power the machines at a discount. Efficiency is becoming a factor, but still secondary to cost. I am able to get the above referenced parts for less than $470 USD (not including RAM), my challenge to you or anyone else interested in assisting me, is to find more execution throughput for less money, but no worse efficiency. Obviously, in this exercise, used parts available in the western US are de rigueur. It looks like I am possibly very close to a best result without resorting to ES CPUs.

BTW, I have a truly cavernous case to accept this new board, a Rosewill B2 Spirit. Photos do not do this monstrosity justice, there is no doubt in my mind that it would swallow even most custom 4P boards with ease.

 

[iwajabitw]

BTW, I have a truly cavernous case to accept this new board, a Rosewill B2 Spirit. Photos do not do this monstrosity justice, there is no doubt in my mind that it would swallow even most custom 4P boards with ease.

Nice case! I have 2 of there Blackhawk mid towers and they are very well vented 2-140mm in the top,120mm out the back, 2-120mm in front,140mm in the bottom, 120mm on the side for GPU and even a 120mm on the back side of the cpu socket. I think you'll like it, the Rosewill Capstone PSU's have been rock solid for me as well.

 

[StefanR5R]

I have a truly cavernous case to accept this new board, a Rosewill B2 Spirit.

Judging from some random photos, you will have to drill at least one hole for mounting the Supermicro mainboard, at the top left of the tray. The SSI-EEB spec has a hole further left there than the ATX spec.

Edit:

Spoiler: better photo of B2 Spirit's mounting holes

Spoiler: hires photo of X9DRi-LN4F+

 

[crashtech]

Yes, it looks like it will be necessary to carefully determine all the hole locations and adjust accordingly. The only part of that I don't like is needing a nut on the back of any new standoff, since simply drilling isn't the same as the piercing or extruding process used by the factory to allow direct tapping of threads into the sheet metal.

Perhaps if I am already drilling holes, I ought to just copy you, Stefan, and go with Haswell/Broadwell:

http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...d-another-system.2495016/page-5#post-38902851

The CPUs are more money, though.

 

[StefanR5R]

Skylake-SP is already being deployed at a selected handful of large customers since quite a while (says e.g. servethehome.com). Will the 2nd hand market begin to receive used Haswell-EPs and Broadwell-EPs from those early Skylake-SP adopters?

 

[crashtech]

Yes, it seems that this should be happening soon, but not in time for what I want. perhaps if I only use 1 CPU for now, I could stay inside my budget, but it would represent a net loss in computing power for the TeAm, at least temporarily.

 

[TennesseeTony]

Whoa! Don't be so selfless. Take care of yourself first, get what you really want. The TeAm appreciates whatever you offer.

 

[crashtech]

What I really want is a 2P 2011-3 box, but it's just financially out of reach, unless fitted with slow, low core count CPUs...

 

[petrusbroder]

Whoa! Don't be so selfless. Take care of yourself first, get what you really want. The TeAm appreciates whatever you offer.

QFT

 

[crashtech]

2011-3 CPUs are just so expensive still. I hate leaving that nice big case empty! Ugh, I'm having a really hard time deciding what to do. Ivy Bridge CPUs offer so much more value. How much less efficient are they than Haswell, really?

 

[TennesseeTony]

Which chip are you looking at (Ivy Bridge)?

 

[crashtech]

Which chip are you looking at (Ivy Bridge)?

E5-2660V2, used, $124. Somewhat slow, but wide, shouldn't run hot at all.

 

[TennesseeTony]

For the price (depending on the $$$ for the RAM you will need), heck yeah, a pair of that CPU positively affects my corpora cavernosa!

95w each, 40 threads total. Hard to beat that combo for the money. No personal experience, as I jumped from Nehalem to Westmere to Haswell-E, but it's only one step back from Haswell-E. I expect it will be a beast for cheap!

 

[crashtech]

I've been looking for a pair of Haswell-E's that get anywhere close to that value, and I just can't. The 2011-3 mobos aren't bad at all, but the CPUs... jeez... Maybe I am missing something, but they all seem way out there price-wise. I guess there are some unmentionable CPU types and/or parts from China, but I'd like to avoid that if possible.

 

[TennesseeTony]

Quit talking, start buying!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-4GB...355992?hash=item2121c31d98:g:u0YAAOSwB-1YugqM