I don't think it's a coincidence that the Best Cheese is named after the Best Country

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Scotteq

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Who in the hell would eat cheddar on a sub? american or swiss or pepper jack please.


Go F Yourself while I eat my Turkey, Bacon, and Cheddar sub.






Pardon me... I am sorry. That was rude. PLEASE go F yourself... :biggrin:
 

Dirigible

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If American cheese were named something else, it would be disgusting.

But it IS named American cheese. So every bite is chock full of freedom and awesomeness. No other cheese can compete.

That's the power of Murica.
 

Jeff7

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Cheese, you say?



Clearfield brand white American cheese: Good stuff, and I think it can in fact be classified as "cheese."
Third product in the lineup.

It's nothing at all like Kraft's cheeselike product.






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CPA

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Cheese, you say?



Clearfield brand white American cheese: Good stuff, and I think it can in fact be classified as "cheese."
Third product in the lineup.

It's nothing at all like Kraft's cheeselike product.






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I love these types of posts. Let's see, Kraft American Cheese ingredients:

MILK, WHEY, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, MILKFAT, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SALT, SODIUM CITRATE, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, CHEESE CULTURE, ENZYMES, ANNATTO AND PAPRIKA EXTRACT (COLOR), VITAMIN D3.

Clearfield White American Cheese Ingredients:

Cultured Milk, Water, Cream, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Lactic Acid, Artificial Color, Enzymes.

Now, looking at the list, it could be reasonably concluded that "OMG, Kraft American Cheese is crap compared to Clearfield. It's not even real cheese!" Well, let's look a little further, shall we.

Common ingredients between the two:
Kraft's Milk and Cheese Cultures = Clearfields Cultured Milk (same thing, stated differently)
Milkfat = Cream
Salt
Sodium Phosphate
Enzymes

That leaves a few non-shared ingredients, so this is where the gap between real cheese and cheese-like product begins...or so we are led to believe.

First, Kraft uses natural coloring from Annatto and Paprika seeds, while Clearfield uses "artificial coloring", whatever that is.

Clearfield uses Lactid Acid as a food preservative, while Kraft uses Sorbic Acid and Sodium Citrate (BTW, Kraft just announced last month that they are removing food preservatives, so expect your Kraft Singles not to last as long).

Kraft adds Whey and Whey Protein Concentrate - proteins, whippty do. Hell, some folks drink whey protein shakes.

Kraft adds Calcium Phosphate as a way to add calcium to it's product and reduce acidity. Nothing wrong with Calcium phosphate.

Kraft adds Sodium Phosphate as an emulsifier. Again, nothing wrong with Sodium Phosphate and a hell of a lot of foods use it.

So, there you are, Kraft has 4 ingredients that Clearfield does not contain and not one of them is an issue.

So, why is Kraft American Cheese considered a "cheeselike" product, while Clearfield is a cheese?
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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Better than your shitty country, and I can safely say that without even knowing what your country is.

Bet his national cheese is better than your national cheese.

And I can safely say that without knowing what his country is as well.
 

Colt45

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American cheese is a perfect match for the US. Cheap, low-quality ersatz cheese.

Just like 4000 sq ft houses made out of paper, chalk and twigs; cars with the cheapest plastic everything inside, etc. Quantity over quality appears to be the american dream.
 

her209

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American cheese is a perfect match for the US. Cheap, low-quality ersatz cheese.

Just like 4000 sq ft houses made out of paper, chalk and twigs; cars with the cheapest plastic everything inside, etc. Quantity over quality appears to be the american dream.

All I got out of your post was: fake bewbies... mmmmmmmmmm...
 

MBentz

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While I love me some 'MURICA!!!11!1, American cheese is nasty.

Goats cheese for the god damned win.
 

lxskllr

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Edit - Sweet double post without clicking reply twice!

That's the new NefMaster2 plugin they installed a couple weeks ago. It gives people that only have a thousand or two posts a chance to catch up to everyone else. Unfortunately it also causes excessive cpu and memory usage, and since it's proprietary, AT is the whim of the developers for a fix. Maybe next year...
 

MBentz

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That's the new NefMaster2 plugin they installed a couple weeks ago. It gives people that only have a thousand or two posts a chance to catch up to everyone else. Unfortunately it also causes excessive cpu and memory usage, and since it's proprietary, AT is the whim of the developers for a fix. Maybe next year...

Excellent feature. However I still won't post enough to catch up to the neff masters.
 

Jeff7

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I love these types of posts. Let's see, Kraft American Cheese ingredients:

MILK, WHEY, MILK PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, MILKFAT, CONTAINS LESS THAN 2% OF CALCIUM PHOSPHATE, SALT, SODIUM CITRATE, WHEY PROTEIN CONCENTRATE, SODIUM PHOSPHATE, SORBIC ACID AS A PRESERVATIVE, CHEESE CULTURE, ENZYMES, ANNATTO AND PAPRIKA EXTRACT (COLOR), VITAMIN D3.

Clearfield White American Cheese Ingredients:

Cultured Milk, Water, Cream, Salt, Sodium Phosphate, Lactic Acid, Artificial Color, Enzymes.

Now, looking at the list, it could be reasonably concluded that "OMG, Kraft American Cheese is crap compared to Clearfield. It's not even real cheese!" Well, let's look a little further, shall we.

Common ingredients between the two:
Kraft's Milk and Cheese Cultures = Clearfields Cultured Milk (same thing, stated differently)
Milkfat = Cream
Salt
Sodium Phosphate
Enzymes

That leaves a few non-shared ingredients, so this is where the gap between real cheese and cheese-like product begins...or so we are led to believe.

First, Kraft uses natural coloring from Annatto and Paprika seeds, while Clearfield uses "artificial coloring", whatever that is.

Clearfield uses Lactid Acid as a food preservative, while Kraft uses Sorbic Acid and Sodium Citrate (BTW, Kraft just announced last month that they are removing food preservatives, so expect your Kraft Singles not to last as long).

Kraft adds Whey and Whey Protein Concentrate - proteins, whippty do. Hell, some folks drink whey protein shakes.

Kraft adds Calcium Phosphate as a way to add calcium to it's product and reduce acidity. Nothing wrong with Calcium phosphate.

Kraft adds Sodium Phosphate as an emulsifier. Again, nothing wrong with Sodium Phosphate and a hell of a lot of foods use it.

So, there you are, Kraft has 4 ingredients that Clearfield does not contain and not one of them is an issue.

So, why is Kraft American Cheese considered a "cheeselike" product, while Clearfield is a cheese?
- I was under the impression that a lot of those "singles" types of cheese were more vegetable oil than milk. Seems that's not the case.
- The flavor of the Kraft cheese is quite different from that of the Clearfield. (Clearfield's the only brand of American cheese that I think is any good.)
- Lactic acid: Isn't that there primarily to curdle the milk as part of the main cheesemaking process?
 

IEC

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American cheese sucks in most foods (with a few exceptions) but America is still the best country in the world, despite its problems.
 

HeXen

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^I figured Australia was because you never hear much from that place, they don't seem to put their nose in eveyrones business with citizens tax dollars from what I can tell. Despite it all however I am far from patriotic whether our country is the best or not, matters little to me considering our obese, selfish culture among other things.
 
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