I don't want this to be political, but...

[SSSnail]

I wanted to throw a dictionary at the forehead of this crying 20-something Bernie supporter on TV saying "this is not democracy" because Bernie lost the nomination. Just exactly what do these entitled buffoons think democracy means? I don't think she even know how it's supposed to work.

Psst, democracy doesn't mean "I didn't get things the way I wanted, waaahhhhhhh!", regardless of how hard you're trying to make it to be.

This obviously is a political thread. It's now where it belongs. -Admin DrPizza

 

[Elixer]

I wanted to throw a dictionary at the forehead of this crying 20-something Bernie supporter on TV saying "this is not democracy" because Bernie lost the nomination. Just exactly what do these entitled buffoons think democracy means? I don't think she even know how it's supposed to work.

Psst, democracy doesn't mean "I didn't get things the way I wanted, waaahhhhhhh!", regardless of how hard you're trying to make it to be.

Didn't see it, but, I assume that she wasn't a happy camper since the race wasn't fair in the eyes of many people since the release of those e-mails showed the DNC machine was against him from the get go...

 

[MtnMan]

Actually we live in a republic, not a democracy.

Remember the pledge of allegiance you probably recited many times.... "and to the republic for which it stands.".... I guess not

 

[umbrella39]

Didn't see it, but, I assume that she wasn't a happy camper since the race wasn't fair in the eyes of many people since the release of those e-mails showed the DNC machine was against him from the get go...

I agree that they were against him. Just like the RNC machine was 100% against Trump, they made that clear from the start. Cruz could not bring himself to endorse Trump and unify the party. Bernie, who knows if he is being genuine, put party and country ahead of petty bickering. I respect both men for their decisions...

 

[darkswordsman17]

You know, there's one thing I'm almost 100% sure of and that's that you don't know how our democracy works either, OP. If you did you'd realize how fucked the whole setup is. It directly leads to situations like what we're seeing.

And I'll just roll my eyes at someone who literally was crying about holding non calls in a fucking football game calling someone an "entitled buffoon" for giving a shit about how fucked up our political system is.

But at least with football season gearing up hopefully you can leverage your incessant hypocrisy and ignorance elsewhere.

 

[Imp]

Save your dictionary for the Bernie supporters who would rather vote Trump than Hillary.

 

[darkswordsman17]

I agree that they were against him. Just like the RNC machine was 100% against Trump, they made that clear from the start. Cruz could not bring himself to endorse Trump and unify the party. Bernie, who knows if he is being genuine, put party and country ahead of petty bickering. I respect both men for their decisions...

They were hardly 100% against Trump. But the fact that they have no choice but to get behind him, and say how they fully support him while saying they don't agree with so much of the incredibly fucked up things he says, just shows how completely fucked up the situation is.

What's truly messed up is how they say things that are every bit as, if not more fucked up than what Trump says, and then they chide him for it, while they're often saying essentially the same thing. And they act like he isn't exactly what they deserve.

What's even more laughable is they have had a lot of opportunities to push Trump out and didn't take them. Basically Trump is who they want, but they seem delusional about it. Yet he's just following their method perfectly. I think that's why Trump went Republican (as he doesn't actually seem to matchup with either party ideologically), he saw how they have been acting the past several years and realized he could beat them at their game.

In the end, both parties deserve what they're getting, and both of their candidates perfectly represent their parties (which are both incredibly fucked up and do a shit job of actually representing anyone).

The entire thing is a shitshow top to bottom, and until we force changes to this farce of a process, things are only going to get worse.

 

[DigDog]

he's referring to the alleged manipulation of votes .. something. didn't read the whole thing. essentially bernie got told he wasn't gonna run or else.
idk, google it.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Save your dictionary for the Bernie supporters who would rather vote Trump than Hillary.

Hillary fully supports TPP while Trump says he does not. I'd probably vote Trump on the odd chance he may hold his word and abolish it. Though as a business rich guy it seems odd he'd be against it as the TPP is pretty much designed for people like him. The election is pretty much having to pick between the lesser of two super villains though. I don't get why more people arn't voting for Sanders, he's actually the non evil one out of the 3.

Either way, I can't wait till November so this is all over, it's ridiculous how long US elections drag on for. Our PM will be in office for almost a year and our election started after the US one.

 

[Ichinisan]

Hillary fully supports TPP while Trump says he does not. I'd probably vote Trump on the odd chance he may hold his word and abolish it. Though as a business rich guy it seems odd he'd be against it as the TPP is pretty much designed for people like him. The election is pretty much having to pick between the lesser of two super villains though. I don't get why more people arn't voting for Sanders, he's actually the non evil one out of the 3.

Either way, I can't wait till November so this is all over, it's ridiculous how long US elections drag on for. Our PM will be in office for almost a year and our election started after the US one.

I know nothing of the TPP except people are generally against it and they never say why.

I get the impression people are like: "I remember NAFTA and I didn't like that!"

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

I wanted to throw a dictionary at the forehead of this crying 20-something Bernie supporter on TV saying "this is not democracy" because Bernie lost the nomination. Just exactly what do these entitled buffoons think democracy means? I don't think she even know how it's supposed to work.

Psst, democracy doesn't mean "I didn't get things the way I wanted, waaahhhhhhh!", regardless of how hard you're trying to make it to be.

We are in a generation of

"It's not MY Fault!"
"My kid didn't do that! He's a well-rounded kid in school that everyone liked!"
and "I'm always right! Why isn't everyone listening to me?!?"

 

[ImpulsE69]

We're doomed regardless who got the nomination and who gets the position. Most of you would rather spend your energy telling everyone how they are wrong on the internet than making any real change.

If these 'choices' don't cause an uprising, nothing will.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Hillary fully supports TPP while Trump says he does not. I'd probably vote Trump on the odd chance he may hold his word and abolish it. Though as a business rich guy it seems odd he'd be against it as the TPP is pretty much designed for people like him. The election is pretty much having to pick between the lesser of two super villains though. I don't get why more people arn't voting for Sanders, he's actually the non evil one out of the 3.

Either way, I can't wait till November so this is all over, it's ridiculous how long US elections drag on for. Our PM will be in office for almost a year and our election started after the US one.

Wrong, she is now against it in its current form, similar to Trump who said he'd have the greatest businesses minds renegotiate it. One can question the sincerity but currently she is not for it right now.
For the record I voted for Bernie but from last night it tough not to think that this was the first "No" some of the Bernie supporters heard about something they're passionate about in their lives.

 

[sdifox]

I know nothing of the TPP except people are generally against it and they never say why.

I get the impression people are like: "I remember NAFTA and I didn't like that!"

It enables multinationals to sue countries (that signed TPP) they are not able to pillage.

 

[dullard]

I know nothing of the TPP except people are generally against it and they never say why.

I get the impression people are like: "I remember NAFTA and I didn't like that!"

I would be willing to bet that most people against the TPP don't really know the contents of the TPP. They are basing their opinion off of fear rather than taking the time to look at what is inside.

The part of the TPP that they rail against is that it contains some free trade language. But, we already have free trade with almost all significant countries in the TPP (well, not Brunei, but are we really worried about cheaper gas from Brunei flooding our market?). Not only that, but it isn't a blanket free trade (many tariffs will stay in place) nor is it quick (the tariffs that are being removed are going away slowly over many years). So, in effect, the free trade part that they are against doesn't really have much impact. They just hear the word trade and shut their ears and minds to the rest of the TPP. It is really the TTIP that is a major tariff cutting agreement that they should be more concerned with, but that is completely separate from the TPP, and is just starting negotiations.

What the TPP is mostly a way to standardize environmental protections, worker's rights, and regulations, and special protections across all of the 12 countries, so that each country follows the same rules.

 

[sdifox]

I would be willing to bet that most people against the TPP don't really know the contents of the TPP. They are basing their opinion off of fear rather than taking the time to look at what is inside.

The part of the TPP that they rail against is that it contains some free trade language. But, we already have free trade with almost all significant countries in the TPP. So, in effect, the free trade part that they are against doesn't really have much impact. They just hear the word trade and shut their ears and minds to the rest of the TPP.

Medicine Sans Frontieres is dead against it. The IP section is just completely tilted in favour of IP holders.

http://campaigns.msf.ca/tpp/?gclid=CPnjt_Tbk84CFYM2aQod9n0FgQ

 

[dullard]

Medicine Sans Frontieres is dead against it. The IP section is just completely tilted in favour of IP holders.

http://campaigns.msf.ca/tpp/?gclid=CPnjt_Tbk84CFYM2aQod9n0FgQ

Which is helpful to the US businesses because in general it is the US intellectual property that is being protected; even though the voters are in the improper view that it will harm US businesses and employees. The voters are willing to cut off their heads to spite their noses.

I'm not arguing for high drug prices. I'm just pointing out that the people have no idea what they are against.

 

[sdifox]

Which is helpful to the US businesses because in general it is the US intellectual property that is being protected; even though the voters are in the improper view that it will harm US businesses and employees. The voters are willing to cut off their heads to spite their noses.

I'm not arguing for high drug prices. I'm just pointing out that the people have no idea what they are against.

I still can't fathom how a gene can be patented, yet it is happening. Well, was happening til 2013, I don't know what happened after the ruling.


https://www.genomeweb.com/clinical-...n-gene-patents-allows-patenting-synthetic-dna

 

[skimple]

How is this not P&N?

Wrong forum. Take your hate (ample on both sides) to P&N.

 

[ctbaars]

You know, there's one thing I'm almost 100% sure of and that's that you don't know how our democracy works either, OP. If you did you'd realize how fucked the whole setup is. It directly leads to situations like what we're seeing.

And I'll just roll my eyes at someone who literally was crying about holding non calls in a fucking football game calling someone an "entitled buffoon" for giving a shit about how fucked up our political system is.

But at least with football season gearing up hopefully you can leverage your incessant hypocrisy and ignorance elsewhere.

Triggered!
:thumbsup: Nothing is new under the sun.

 

[dullard]

I still can't fathom how a gene can be patented, yet it is happening. Well, was happening til 2013, I don't know what happened after the ruling.


https://www.genomeweb.com/clinical-...n-gene-patents-allows-patenting-synthetic-dna

Isn't that a sign that the US system worked? Companies can patent concepts, but courts can strike it down. I can't really think of a reason to use that case as a reason to allow the 12 countries in the TPP to just copy any one else's hard labor.

 

[pauldun170]

I don't think this is a "political issue" as much as a statement on the type of people who gravitate to political conventions.
Obviously it takes interest or passion to want to go.
Then you have to deal with statistics.
There will be a % in any given group that are little touched in the head.

You see that in any large sample.
Including these forums

 

[pauldun170]

crying 20-something Bernie supporter on TV saying "this is not democracy" because Bernie lost the nomination. ...
Psst, democracy doesn't mean "I didn't get things the way I wanted, waaahhhhhhh!", regardless of how hard you're trying to make it to be.

 

[IronWing]

We are in a generation of

"It's not MY Fault!"
"My kid didn't do that! He's a well-rounded kid in school that everyone liked!"
and "I'm always right! Why isn't everyone listening to me?!?"

If you're a young earther, we're in the 400th generation of this. If you're evolutionist, the first monkey to fall out of the tree said, "He pushed me!"

 

[SSSnail]

You know, there's one thing I'm almost 100% sure of and that's that you don't know how our democracy works either, OP. If you did you'd realize how fucked the whole setup is. It directly leads to situations like what we're seeing.

And I'll just roll my eyes at someone who literally was crying about holding non calls in a fucking football game calling someone an "entitled buffoon" for giving a shit about how fucked up our political system is.

But at least with football season gearing up hopefully you can leverage your incessant hypocrisy and ignorance elsewhere.

Sure, I'll bite. So the candidate with the most popular votes should win the candidacy, yes? That's at least how I understood democracy is supposed to work. Now, your turn. I'm going to ignore the rest of your idiotic diatribe, for now.