I feel sorry for those in the education industry.

Triumph

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The bar is set so low as to what you can be fired for, they must be walking on egg shells everywhere they go. Must be pretty stressful. Note that this person is not a teacher.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/school-employee-fired-tweet-aimed-students-spelling-44780656

Katie Nash tells The Frederick News-Post (http://tinyurl.com/jfdv55v) that she was fired on Friday afternoon from her $44,000-a-year job. A Frederick County Public Schools spokesman confirmed that Nash had been let go, without providing details.

Nash ran the school district's Twitter account. On Jan. 5, a student tweeted to the account, asking that schools be closed "tammarow."

Nash responded from the district's account, "But then how would you learn how to spell 'tomorrow?'"

Maybe there's more to the story. At least I hope so, for the sake of all of my friends who work in education.
 

ch33zw1z

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lol, good burn....not firing-worthy IMO. maybe a little aggressive considering auto correct is a fuckface most of the time.
 

Ackmed

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Wow, that sucks. Perhaps she had prior issues before or something. Education industry can be good or bad. My father in law is a principal at a pretty big high school, and the things that go on, that they have to do is just silly sometimes. My wife has her masters in education and taught for some time, high and middle. Got fed up, quit. Just so much bullshit. Plans to sub in a few years when our new born gets older and just stick with that.
 
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Commodus

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It's not surprising in the current PC environment. Instead of being seen as someone correcting spelling, it's seen as an personal attack on the the tweet author.

Was waiting for one of the hyper-conservatives to make an arbitrary "PC! The world is too PC!" connection.

As a school leader, you're supposed to be considerate of your students and not ridicule them, even if you didn't mean something malicious by it. I think it was too much to let her go (suspension at most), but I also understand why this happened.
 

lxskllr

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lol, good burn....not firing-worthy IMO. maybe a little aggressive considering auto correct is a fuckface most of the time.
The kid should go to school tammarow to learn how to spell, then go to the phone store for some tech that isn't retarded, and throwing him under the bus. I have no idea what a "tammarow" is(is that a fish?), and I have passing familiarity with Romance, and Germanic languages, as well as being pretty good at English.
 

Puffnstuff

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I have no idea what a "tammarow" is(is that a fish?),
You might be onto something here. I believe that is really a bait fish used for net casting. I'm going through a similar issue concerning some college seniors and their demonstration of poor linguistic skills that are making me cringe each time I read their work.
 

Londo_Jowo

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Was waiting for one of the hyper-conservatives to make an arbitrary "PC! The world is too PC!" connection.

As a school leader, you're supposed to be considerate of your students and not ridicule them, even if you didn't mean something malicious by it. I think it was too much to let her go (suspension at most), but I also understand why this happened.
Hyper-conservatives? I'm a moderate conservative that sees the person firing as being wrong. When I was in school and many years later in my mid 30's learning a second language I never took any offense to anyone correcting me. The school should rehire this person immediately.
 

Commodus

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Hyper-conservatives? I'm a moderate conservative that sees the person firing as being wrong. When I was in school and many years later in my mid 30's learning a second language I never took any offense to anyone correcting me. The school should rehire this person immediately.

Apologies for going a bit far. Still, you pulled the "PC" card. I don't like it when people do that in general, but it feels particularly arbitrary here.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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You might be onto something here. I believe that is really a bait fish used for net casting. I'm going through a similar issue concerning some college seniors and their demonstration of poor linguistic skills that are making me cringe each time I read their work.
I certainly hope you let them know their poor grade is a result of their poor writing skills.
 

FIVR

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We should create an opaque system of grand juries for any disciplinary actions, remove all oversight, and start passing "Teachers Bill of Rights" laws that exempt them from what little legal responsibilities they have. It's worked wonders for law enforcement job security in the US, and they already have the union in place to lobby. Why can't it work for education too?


I mean, if 1200+ people can be killed doing "a good job" in law enforcement, then surely we can kill a dozen or so doing a good job in education, amirite?
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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We should create an opaque system of grand juries for any disciplinary actions, remove all oversight, and start passing "Teachers Bill of Rights" laws that exempt them from what little legal responsibilities they have. It's worked wonders for law enforcement job security in the US, and they already have the union in place to lobby. Why can't it work for education too?


I mean, if 1200+ people can be killed doing "a good job" in law enforcement, then surely we can kill a dozen or so doing a good job in education, amirite?
How about we start looking at education as a necessity and a responsibility instead of as a tax burden and political football.
 

FIVR

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Oh I agree, we should make eduction sacrosanct like law enforcement and the military. Make it illegal to look up the employment history of any teacher. Make all teacher records automatically purged after a year or two. Give them access to a huge slush fund to defend themselves against any legal action, and make an agency completely staffed by former and current teachers to manage that fund.

Make education great again.
 

Mai72

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I've taught in South Korea and in America. I'm currently in NJ and I feel like I'm sometimes walking on egg shells. As a man, you have to watch what you say to other co-workers. In my school it's mostly women. I don't tell light-hearted jokes. I don't play around. I don't do much except work. It's the same with the students. I don't do much because I'm afraid that I may offend someone.

In Korea, I didn't worry much. It was a totally different environment. I actually went to the bar and had drinks with administration. That would never happen in NJ.
 

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Was I the only one to read the included link to that stated she was hired two months ago as a Web experience coordinator and was not at educator?

She was support staff, she screwed up and she was let go.
In the adult world where real people live, when you are at job and are public facing, save the bullshit comments towards the "client\customer\whoever consumes your employers service" until the paint is dry on the nameplate by your desk.

For those who don't care about the story and instead want to just gripe about thangs and stuff...sorry for the interruption.
 

Blue_Max

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Sure by raising the standards across the board.

There WILL be pushback in that situation, mostly from hyper-left "progressive" types worried about hurting the feelings of non-white students having a harder time with English skills, etc. A failing grade is racist, dammit!

The decision would have to come from the top down to ditch the utterly-failed progressive approach and go back to the three R's (at very least!) AND protect the teachers from the leftist blowback.

Also, in the same way many unwilling teachers were forced to teach the "progressive" method, unwilling progressives will have to teach a direct, simple, standardized, non-partisan method.
 

Triumph

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Was I the only one to read the included link to that stated she was hired two months ago as a Web experience coordinator and was not at educator?

She was support staff, she screwed up and she was let go.
In the adult world where real people live, when you are at job and are public facing, save the bullshit comments towards the "client\customer\whoever consumes your employers service" until the paint is dry on the nameplate by your desk.

For those who don't care about the story and instead want to just gripe about thangs and stuff...sorry for the interruption.

I said in the OP that she was not a teacher, and that she works in the education industry.

You miss the point entirely, that the reach of the overly sensitive education leadership is long, and if you are even remotely aligned with a school, you will be burned at the stake for the slightest transgression.
 

agent00f

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Apologies for going a bit far. Still, you pulled the "PC" card. I don't like it when people do that in general, but it feels particularly arbitrary here.

It's a pretty emblematic conservative move to conflate workplace bullshit or whatever else in the world with "PC", along with pretending they're not really conservative. Look at for example this guy:

There WILL be pushback in that situation, mostly from hyper-left "progressive" types worried about hurting the feelings of non-white students having a harder time with English skills, etc. A failing grade is racist, dammit!

The decision would have to come from the top down to ditch the utterly-failed progressive approach and go back to the three R's (at very least!) AND protect the teachers from the leftist blowback.

Also, in the same way many unwilling teachers were forced to teach the "progressive" method, unwilling progressives will have to teach a direct, simple, standardized, non-partisan method.

He probably swears up and down that he's "moderate" or even "independent".

Apologizing for being mostly right is why liberals lose, and understandably so.
 

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Was I the only one to read the included link to that stated she was hired two months ago as a Web experience coordinator and was not at educator?

She was support staff, she screwed up and she was let go.

Yes and no... Even if she were a janitor in that school, making a well-intended friendly comment about a serious spelling error should not result in firing.

There we get into the feeeeeeeelings vs. fairness aspect of progressivism, not to mention thought/speech policing.
 

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Maybe it was just the latest in a chain questionable behavior by the faculty member that we didn't hear about. Either way, I agree with the message: I wouldn't want to work in education either. Teaching is hard, and it's worse if you're responsible for teenagers. It doesn't get much better at university - professors, just having spent 10+ years establishing themselves in their field, are responsible for persons just exiting their teens.
 

agent00f

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Yes and no... Even if she were a janitor in that school, making a well-intended friendly comment about a serious spelling error should not result in firing.

There we get into the feeeeeeeelings vs. fairness aspect of progressivism, not to mention thought/speech policing.

Rest my case, they're all cut from the same cloth, as an ideology which mainly rewards loyalty would imply.
 

MongGrel

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There WILL be pushback in that situation, mostly from hyper-left "progressive" types worried about hurting the feelings of non-white students having a harder time with English skills, etc. A failing grade is racist, dammit!

The decision would have to come from the top down to ditch the utterly-failed progressive approach and go back to the three R's (at very least!) AND protect the teachers from the leftist blowback.

Also, in the same way many unwilling teachers were forced to teach the "progressive" method, unwilling progressives will have to teach a direct, simple, standardized, non-partisan method.

I wondered how long it would be before Blue Max showed up.

It was a casual post from the teacher that was way overblown, I have several relatives that were college professors and are retired that would have been way more critical.

That was a love tap.
 
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Blue_Max

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I wondered how long it would be before Blue Max showed up.
Almost posted something along those lines earlier, he seems to have a problem with educators in general.

Hardly! (But certainly not the first false accusation thrown my way!)

My problem is not with educators, but with uberlefts who force others to accept their beliefs and will happily use the education system to do so. Many of these teachers are at the mercy of a far-left board directing them... and many are just leftist zealots themselves more than happy to indoctrinate another generation.
 

MongGrel

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Hardly! (But certainly not the first false accusation thrown my way!)

My problem is not with educators, but with uberlefts who force others to accept their beliefs and will happily use the education system to do so. Many of these teachers are at the mercy of a far-left board directing them... and many are just leftist zealots themselves more than happy to indoctrinate another generation.

I'd actually removed that to not be judgemental, but it's not a big deal.

But I'll agree with you on the overly PC issue in general, but that applies to were someone chooses to go attend to an extent.

I do not even have a degree myself, but have attended college for awhile but went into a trade in the long run which was lucrative for a long time, till manufacturing took a dive in general.

 
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