You misunderstand, Trollstoy. It's not that they agree with me, it's that they disagree with you and your wankish behavior in here. Running around trying to slime people by making wild, unsupported accusations is the last resort of someone that has already lost the battle. And you lost, big time. So has your attack Chihuahua buddy that claims to be a woman and resorts to the very same behavior.
Grow up, kiddies.
Our styles are nothing alike whatsoever. Any fool should be able to see that. Oh, wait; I assumed that you're just any fool.
My bad. You're a very special fool.
There you go again, name-calling everyone who disagrees with you.No, they literally agree that I'm too mean to you & friends. Unfortunately for them and you, the characterizations made are entirely accurate, which is why degenerates' only option is to clutch at their pearl and call for help from particularly dumb and naive liberals standing by for rescue.
No, it's simple fact that your lot all write as if they dropped out from school with the attendant chip on their shoulder, which you so aptly demonstrate.
There you go again, name-calling everyone who disagrees with you.
Keep on keepin' on, champ.
Keep slicing your throat in here.No, they literally agree that I'm too mean to you & friends. Unfortunately for them and you, the characterizations made are entirely accurate, which is why degenerates' only option is to clutch at their pearl and call for help from particularly dumb and naive liberals standing by for rescue.
Keep slicing your throat in here.
lol.A great way to illustrate the difference between conservative degeneracy and liberalism is that degenerates will stay loyal to their own no matter how racist or evil. Eg. roflmouth can start gassing muslims and you're obliged/motivated to look the other way. Whereas nick and I are free to argue over matters. Of course there are pros/con to each approach as you're evidently aware, since with potential division it's harder to herd thinkers for efforts which benefit from political tard strength. This is a strong pro for your peeps.
Maybe you don't quite grasp it, or just turn a blind eye, but you are not well received in P&N at all. But keep on calling out the old-timers in here as wankers and fobs all while burying your head in the sand that you're not considered a liberal pariah. You're sure to make lots of liberal friends in the process with your specious reasoning and poorly played call-outs.Yeah, well, he also "trolls" other liberals like he's some kind of commissar. I find him toxic from any ideological perspective. He epitomizes the absolute worst stereotypes conservatives have of liberals, the stereotypes they falsely believe are common to most of us.
Anyway, enough about him. I'm off to "carry water for Klan." Actually, my back's a little sore today. Could you take over for a few days? All this water carrying is exhausting.
lol.
You're a newb in here. I've been jousting with the libs, and cons, in here for many, many years; for far, far longer than you've been here with your posturing superiority and posing intellectualism.
I will also point this out:
Maybe you don't quite grasp it, or just turn a blind eye, but you are not well received in P&N at all. But keep on calling out the old-timers in here as wankers and fobs all while burying your head in the sand that you're not considered a liberal pariah. You're sure to make lots of liberal friends in the process with your specious reasoning and poorly played call-outs.
You have absolutely no couth whatsoever.
But I expect you'll keep on keeping on, regardless, because you believe yourself to be so much smarter than everyone else, all while showing your ass to everyone.
#yourasssisshowing
lol.You mouthing off is completely worthless in comparison to anything I or anyone remotely astute might observe for the same reason why science consistently beats trashy blustering.
For example, it's easy to see you're easily threatened by reasons why you align with racists and behave like trash, questions about your "manhood", or anything offensive to lowest denom honor culture really. And the predictable degenerate response is to double down on mouthing off instead of showing any competence at constructing any coherent counterargument.
Empiricists can afford to assume accuracy because their methods are accurate by design, and by contrasting our approaches it's obvious how that's simply superior to some feeble mind yapping away.
lol.
ATP&N. Any more questions about this guy?
What? Are you drunk? Try posting something that actually makes sense.For example, if said feeble mind were capable of better than "lol." you would.
What? Are you drunk? Try posting something that actually makes sense.
Like I thought, you're drunk again, because your posts have zero relation to reality. And for someone who complains about writing, your writing sucks ass and lacks any form of lucidity.It makes perfect sense to minds capable of better than lol.
Like I thought, you're drunk again, because your posts have zero relation to reality. And for someone who complains about writing, your writing sucks ass and lacks any form of lucidity.
My mistake. I should have dumbed myself way, way down, only then would I have understood what you were so stiltedly attempting to state.Just because you can't understand something doesn't mean it can't be understood. I mean, it's just a fact you can't make heads or tails of most college textbooks either and it's not because they're poorly written.
My mistake. I should have dumbed myself way, way down, only then would I have understood what you were so stiltedly attempting to state.
And wtf...college textbooks? I'm long, long past college kiddo. I read engineering drawings, schematics, specifications, and consult subject matter experts; then write detailed information that compiles the information that I gathered. Why the hell would I still be reading college textbooks?
Unless...ooh, I get it! You're a college boy who thinks they know everything, is smarter than everyone else, and believes that reading college textbooks is the pinnacle of intellectual prowess. If true, that would make a whole hell of a lot of sense and explain a lot about you.
What a surprise; more delusions from you. I've had no trouble with you whatsoever and you're about the simplest concept in here. In fact, you've been an absolute breeze, and still continue to be one.That gratuitous chip on your shoulder for having so much trouble with simple concepts says otherwise.
I live on Disability, and I don't even qualify for SNAP. I used to get it, in years past, and I would get a whole... $16/mo. Great, eh?I'm pretty sure, at least for SNAP, that anyone earning over 130% gross and 100% net poverty level income does not qualify, with a few exceptions for the elderly.
I have true and honest compassion for you and your plight. Nor do I deny that you should be receiving benefits to permit you to live a decent life. Unfortunately people who have real disabilities get shit upon by people like this:I live on Disability, and I don't even qualify for SNAP. I used to get it, in years past, and I would get a whole... $16/mo. Great, eh?
Some of you people decrying these programs, may not have a very accurate perspective on things. It's not like I'm eating free steaks every night.
I know several people on Disability, besides myself. I've been VERY lucky to have family to help me out as well. Otherwise, I don't know how I would make it. These other people have limited support, compared to me. One of them passed away, and the other just got a notice to pay his back rent, or move out by the end of the month. (He works, too! Just doesn't pay his bills too well. Casino's more interesting.)
Edit: I should probably elaborate a little bit. I myself do not "work", at least, in terms of real employment. I have done occasional flea markets, and build and fix computers to supplement my income. So that's at least something that I try at.
My friend that works, I'm really "proud" of him, for finally getting a job, even though it meant he ended up losing one of his two disability checks because of that. He makes slightly more money than he did collecting, but I think his life is a little bit more morally satisfying because he's earning part of his keep.
Not that I'm such a horrible person, I would get a job, if I thought I could handle it. Before my diagnosis, I did some part-time labor.
The other friend of mine that passed away a few years back, he did have severe condition, that eventually meant that he couldn't work any more. He did work, in the earlier years. So he was really just drawing benefits from what he had paid into for years.
Well, I'm really not so sure a whistle-blower program would work out so well.There has to be a better way. Turning a blind eye to massive abuses and pretending that we have to tolerate fraud isn't the way to success. Maybe it would be better if we instituted a whistle-blower program amongst the disabled, similar to how there is one in place for corporations? It just might keep fraud down, and enrich some of those who truly need the help.
Would you try to enrich yourself by turning in people that were legitimately claiming disability? Would you turn in someone that even might marginally be claiming disability?Well, I'm really not so sure a whistle-blower program would work out so well.
Aside from from the moral issue of attempting to turn the poor into snitches, how many of them would "turn in" people that were arguably getting legitimate benefits, if they could enrich themselves. I've seen those types of people, or at least, that sort of behavior in people. That would result in potentially more unjust people getting enriched, and the justifiably disabled not getting their fare share under the law.
I think that some level of fraud, is not really justified, but expected, with programs like these. And for those systemically gaming the system, like the lawyer your above article noted, well, they should be put to a trial, and punished, if they were violating the law. But much like piracy, in the face of commercial software distribution, it would be too onerous to eliminate it completely, both in terms of financial costs and costs to societal freedom and liberties.
The solution, might be akin to open-source / Free Software, such as something like UBI. Then people couldn't really be defrauding the system, anymore. Every one would have an income source to live on (just barely), and those that are sufficiently motivated to "rise above" poverty, would be rewarded, rather than punished.
So, tentatively, from what I've read about it, I tend to support the concept of UBI, at least on the level of personal perspective. I could potentially get a job, at least part-time, without the threat of losing everything.
Would you try to enrich yourself by turning in people that were legitimately claiming disability? Would you turn in someone that even might marginally be claiming disability?
I seriously doubt that. It gains you nothing. But those who are patently dishonest...they are draining your monetary pool. Would you report those?
Regarding UBI, I have already addressed the major fault in that system. As soon as people figure out that they can get free money and not have to work, the system collapses.
Yeah, that's why I used the word "tentatively".Regarding UBI, I have already addressed the major fault in that system. As soon as people figure out that they can get free money and not have to work, the system collapses.
Yeah, that's why I used the word "tentatively".
Wasn't there a Founding Father quote, that basically said as much, that if the voting public figures out it can vote itself a share of the treasury, that that might be the end of the Republic, or something like that?
Would UBI mean the end of our grand experiment? If so, I would certainly vote against it.
I was basically speaking of the advantages of that sort of system, personally, as I would be allowed to work, and still collect a minimum Disability check.
On the whole though, if everyone was "on the dole" so to speak, and there was nobody left working, that doesn't seem like it would work out too well.
Then again, the Federal personal income tax wasn't a thing for quite some time; from what I understand, the Federal gov't was funded by imposts (imports?) and excises (?) - basically, customs taxes.
The thought of ONLY taxing "rich corporations", to provide money for the economy and persons (citizens, only) living in this country, doesn't seem totally far-fetched, either, in a time of maximal automation.
I don't consider myself a liberal or conservative, I try to keep an open mind, to find solutions for society's problems.