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wirednuts

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i dont know about you smoblikat, because i have been through hell for years doing shitty work for crap pay... but now that i too landed a good (GREAT) job i am already thinking on things i want (not need like usually have to)

a bed i think is the first on my list. well, actually winter is coming fast and i need to get that android car computer built into my truck first LOL thats only $300 away from completion though. first check can probably take care of that!
 

mshan

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From what I've seen on CNBC, Dell is transitioning from a commodity pc maker to a business services company like IBM. Alot of other job hunters might not even consider then because they view Dell as a commodity pc box maker still.

Hopefully, what happened is Human Resources at Dell knows how tight job market is for high skills type jobs, and they relaxed requirements such as college degree or minimum gpa. Could also be that you are much cheaper (because no official college degree or work history) than experienced college degree equivalent who might demand a much higher wage than you.

Congrats, because it sounds like win win for both you and your employer!

:thumbsup:
 

Smoblikat

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i dont know about you smoblikat, because i have been through hell for years doing shitty work for crap pay... but now that i too landed a good (GREAT) job i am already thinking on things i want (not need like usually have to)

a bed i think is the first on my list. well, actually winter is coming fast and i need to get that android car computer built into my truck first LOL thats only $300 away from completion though. first check can probably take care of that!

Good luck, sadly there is somthing I NEED before I can get what I want. Im a blind A-hole so I need a pair of 1300$ glasses to be able to legally drive, plus like 2K worth of training. So thats first, then 6950 Xfire (unlocked to 6970's).

From what I've seen on CNBC, Dell is transitioning from a commodity pc maker to a business services company like IBM. Alot of other job hunters might not even consider then because they view Dell as a commodity pc box maker still.

Hopefully, what happened is Human Resources at Dell knows how tight job market is for high skills type jobs, and they relaxed requirements such as college degree or minimum gpa. Could also be that you are much cheaper (because no official college degree or work history) than experienced college degree equivalent who might demand a much higher wage than you.

Congrats, because it sounds like win win for both you and your employer!

:thumbsup:

Thank you, thats exactly how I see it. The job isnt rocket science, I can do it. And ill be happy to do it for a lot less then they would pay a guy with 30+ years of experience and a degree.
 

mshan

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Part of Morningstar's stock analysis of what is happening at Dell:
Thesis 12/16/11


"As the economics of the PC market deteriorate, Dell hopes to transform itself from a maker of commodity boxes into a trusted enterprise solutions provider on par with Hewlett-Packard HPQ and IBM. This is the path to creating shareholder value, but we doubt non-PC technologies will become the dominant characteristic of Dell's business model anytime soon.

Selling commodity Windows machines has lost its appeal. The large PC manufacturers act as assemblers that add little value while Microsoft MSFT and Intel INTC capture the value in the PC supply chain. Dell has scale, but that is the bare minimum to compete in the PC industry and does not create a competitive advantage when rivals have similar bulk. Additionally, selling prices continue to decline as low-cost devices drive down price expectations for consumers. Finally, virtualization and cloud computing technologies threaten to minimize the data processing and storage that occur on individual devices, further reducing differentiation among client devices.

Dell is pursuing a couple of tactics to revitalize its position. First, the firm is changing tactics in the consumer PC segment, expanding into retail outlets. This is increasing the addressable market for Dell, especially internationally. However, it puts pressure on average selling prices and decreases Dell's control of the client relationship. Additionally, this could disrupt the cash-conversion cycle that has helped created such attractive returns. Second, Dell is pushing into adjacent markets such as tablets and smartphones to help stimulate growth in the consumer market. This is a natural extension of endpoint devices, but we believe moving into these areas simply extends Dell's reliance on commodity products. Apple AAPL has successfully made the transition from PC to phones because its core strengths lie in software, an area in which we think Dell is unprepared to compete.

The crucial strategy for Dell is its push into data center technologies, including servers and storage, which offer greater switching costs and often drive consulting services. However, more than two thirds of Dell's revenue remains tied to commodity hardware (desktops, laptops, peripherals) while storage represents just 3% of revenue. We think changing the balance will require significant time and cost.

Dell is pursuing acquisitions to accelerate its transformation, but the pace has been uninspiring. Dell gained solid intellectual property from EqualLogic, Compellent, and Force10 for its portfolio, and although we are skeptical of synergies with Perot Systems, we believe the deal is positive because Dell gains a business processing arm with an entrenched client base. However, we think the negotiations and ultimately the high premium paid for Perot indicate Dell's desperation to move into services at any cost. The shift to more sophisticated offerings will ultimately shape Dell's ability to create shareholder value, but we question if the firm will destroy more value than it creates during the transition."
 
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dr150

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That is really good pay for your age!

In this day and age, if I were in your shoes and what I know now about the tech industry, you can work up through different divisions of Dell gaining experience and reach executive level jobs without any stupid waste of a $100k+ college degree. I've seen this track all too frequently......Or go to college part-time on Dell's dime (get that silly degree for free and at your leisure). :thumbsup:

Whatever you do, don't give that job up. That is a meal ticket to a potentially highly lucrative career path.

Congrats!
 
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Sho'Nuff

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And then young Smoblikat will understand soon enough why all of his posting in P&N about how he doesn't understand why the 'little' people being angry at the 1% being taxed at <15% is actually justified anger when he brings home about $11.56/hr and then still owes both state and federal taxes in 3 months.

Ugh. Really? Do you not understand the concept of tax deductions? E.g., Romney paid 14% income tax in 2011 because he donated 29% of his income to charity. Charitable donations are, by law, tax deductible. Many 1 percenters donate a lot of money. Not for the tax deduction, but because we like to give to causes that we support. I myself donate a significant amount of money to Children's Hospital Boston. Why? Because they saved my daughter's life and the doctors there are simply amazing. That, and I want to control where some of my hard earned income goes, rather than hand it to a government that will simply throw it away.

And I'm sorry but is has to be said. Most 1 percenters worked their ass off to get where they are. If people want what we have, earn it. I spent almost 5 years of my life working 20+ hours a day, to land a job that pays very well but also requires me to work 12-15 hours a day. Most 1%'ers have similar experiences. If people want our pay, the opportunity is there for the taking. Go and earn it for yourself, rather than asking the 1%'ers to hand it to you.

Moreover, most 1%'ers already pay a hell of a lot of taxes. I personally take home a whopping 55% of what I earn. The rest is eaten up by taxes which are frittered away by the government in some untraceable manner.

So no, 1%'ers do not need to pay more. Rather, the government needs to spend less (GASP!!!!) and a lot of people need to stop looking for hand outs.

I seriously cannot believe that people actually buy into the utter bullshit that is being spread around by the political parties during this presidential campaign.

But to the OP, congrats. Sounds like you have a good first job. Start saving for retirement now, even if you can only put away a few bucks each month. You will thank me when you are 65 and you see what those few dollars turned into.
 
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Smoblikat

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That is really good pay for your age!

In this day and age, if I were in your shoes and what I know now about the tech industry, you can work up through different divisions of Dell gaining experience and reach executive level jobs without any stupid waste of a $100k+ college degree. I've seen this track all too frequently......Or go to college part-time on Dell's dime (get that silly degree for free and at your leisure). :thumbsup:

Whatever you do, don't give that job up. That is a meal ticket to a potentially highly lucrative career path.

Congrats!

Ya, im going to hold onto this job for as long as I can. As soon as I get a chance to climb the ladder I will.

Ugh. Really? Do you not understand the concept of tax deductions? E.g., Romney paid 14% income tax in 2011 because he donated 29% of his income to charity. Charitable donations are, by law, tax deductible. Many 1 percenters donate a lot of money. Not for the tax deduction, but because we like to give to causes that we support. I myself donate a significant amount of money to Children's Hospital Boston. Why? Because they saved my daughter's life and the doctors there are simply amazing. That, and I want to control where some of my hard earned income goes, rather than hand it to a government that will simply throw it away.

And I'm sorry but is has to be said. Most 1 percenters worked their ass off to get where they are. If people want what we have, earn it. I spent almost 5 years of my life working 20+ hours a day, to land a job that pays very well but also requires me to work 12-15 hours a day. Most 1%'ers have similar experiences. If people want our pay, the opportunity is there for the taking. Go and earn it for yourself, rather than asking the 1%'ers to hand it to you.

Moreover, most 1%'ers already pay a hell of a lot of taxes. I personally take home a whopping 55% of what I earn. The rest is eaten up by taxes which are frittered away by the government in some untraceable manner.

So no, 1%'ers do not need to pay more. Rather, the government needs to spend less (GASP!!!!) and a lot of people need to stop looking for hand outs.

I seriously cannot believe that people actually buy into the utter bullshit that is being spread around by the political parties during this presidential campaign.

But to the OP, congrats. Sounds like you have a good first job. Start saving for retirement now, even if you can only put away a few bucks each month. You will thank me when you are 65 and you see what those few dollars turned into.

Thank you, without turning this into a political discussion I agree 100% with you. People with money should be admired, not frowned upon. Romney donates A LOT of money and pays a lower tax rate, its much better then throwing his money away to the government to give to lazy people who abuse the system.
 

dr150

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But to the OP, congrats. Sounds like you have a good first job. Start saving for retirement now, even if you can only put away a few bucks each month. You will thank me when you are 65 and you see what those few dollars turned into.

This is fact.

Try to max out your 401k and IRA.

The power of compounding at your age will leave you with a really nice chunk of change at retirement.

Starting at your age with a smaller investment is worth significantly more than starting in your 30's with a larger investment trying to catch up.

You put money away, and keep working on that Dell career path (getting that foot in the door is the hardest thing, and that's not even counting a stupendous $18/hr rate for your age) (and maybe a Part-Time BA degree on Dell's dime) and you'll have more dough than all of your college buddies combined. :thumbsup:

https://www.elcabop.org/Home/PlanFuture/Investment_education/Compounding.aspx

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-alderman/compounding-retirement-savings_b_985401.html
 
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Zargon

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two guys for 9 floors of building and 4 digit employees support?

yikes!!!!

then again, I am on a team of 8 supporting a network with 100K switchpots, hundreds of fiber stands, and 55K+ users...
 

Smoblikat

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This is fact.

Try to max out your 401k and IRA.

The power of compounding at your age will leave you with a really nice chunk of change at retirement.

Starting at your age with a smaller investment is worth significantly more than starting in your 30's with a larger investment trying to catch up.

You put money away, and keep working on that Dell career path (getting that foot in the door is the hardest thing, and that's not even counting a stupendous $18/hr rate for your age) (and maybe a Part-Time BA degree on Dell's dime) and you'll have more dough than all of your college buddies combined. :thumbsup:

https://www.elcabop.org/Home/PlanFuture/Investment_education/Compounding.aspx

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jason-alderman/compounding-retirement-savings_b_985401.html

Great advice, thank you.

:thumbsup: Congrats!

Thanks man

two guys for 9 floors of building and 4 digit employees support?

yikes!!!!

then again, I am on a team of 8 supporting a network with 100K switchpots, hundreds of fiber stands, and 55K+ users...

Ya, for several months now its only been just him working. Hes had the entire facility to handle. How do you manage all those switches and clients with just 8 people? I thought I had it rough.........
 

TXHokie

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Ugh. Really? Do you not understand the concept of tax deductions? E.g., Romney paid 14% income tax in 2011 because he donated 29% of his income to charity. Charitable donations are, by law, tax deductible. Many 1 percenters donate a lot of money. Not for the tax deduction, but because we like to give to causes that we support. I myself donate a significant amount of money to Children's Hospital Boston. Why? Because they saved my daughter's life and the doctors there are simply amazing. That, and I want to control where some of my hard earned income goes, rather than hand it to a government that will simply throw it away.

And I'm sorry but is has to be said. Most 1 percenters worked their ass off to get where they are. If people want what we have, earn it. I spent almost 5 years of my life working 20+ hours a day, to land a job that pays very well but also requires me to work 12-15 hours a day. Most 1%'ers have similar experiences. If people want our pay, the opportunity is there for the taking. Go and earn it for yourself, rather than asking the 1%'ers to hand it to you.

Moreover, most 1%'ers already pay a hell of a lot of taxes. I personally take home a whopping 55% of what I earn. The rest is eaten up by taxes which are frittered away by the government in some untraceable manner.

So no, 1%'ers do not need to pay more. Rather, the government needs to spend less (GASP!!!!) and a lot of people need to stop looking for hand outs.

I seriously cannot believe that people actually buy into the utter bullshit that is being spread around by the political parties during this presidential campaign.

But to the OP, congrats. Sounds like you have a good first job. Start saving for retirement now, even if you can only put away a few bucks each month. You will thank me when you are 65 and you see what those few dollars turned into.

Amen bro, preach on!!!

...and to OP, congrats on landing a sweet job. I know a few college grads that would feel very lucky to land such a job, but you already know that.
 

mshan

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"That is really good pay for your age!

In this day and age, if I were in your shoes and what I know now about the tech industry, you can work up through different divisions of Dell gaining experience and reach executive level jobs without any stupid waste of a $100k+ college degree. I've seen this track all too frequently......Or go to college part-time on Dell's dime (get that silly degree for free and at your leisure).

Whatever you do, don't give that job up. That is a meal ticket to a potentially highly lucrative career path.

Congrats!"
"As soon as I get a chance to climb the ladder I will."



I'd say just focus on doing the best job you can at current job, then hopefully superiors will see your work ethic and qualifications, and approach you for advancement within Dell.

Based upon this commentary (http://www.longleafpartners.com/commentary_news/audio) they are trying to remake themselves as the IBM for small and medium size business, particularly in emerging markets.

If they succeed and company really starts to grow again, seems like lots of opportunities for advancement would naturally develop within organization itself.
 
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Insomniator

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Nice!! Getting your foot in the door with no degree is excellent.

My first paid tech job was an internship for $550 a week... which... was about what I made when I started my first job after college.
 

olds

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Coolness on the job.

My first tech job was in the US Army using a computer based Fire Mission program.
 

Smoblikat

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watch out for the random drug tests

Thats the only downside

Thanks everyone else, everything is faxed and all the paperwork that I can do is done. Tomrorow I have to finish the legal stuff (prove that im legal) and take a drug test. Hopefully I pass both
 
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