I am curious, did you at any time ask her to explain her position on the subject and why she thought what she thought?
Sounds like a case of confirmation bias to associate that behavior with Millennials. Do you honestly believe most Millennials behave like her at the workplace?
I think people would have gotten that it was a joke title if you said you got Trident'd at work.Seriously people, the thread title was an attempt at being funny. I am also a millienal. I also mentor quite a few younger people and volunteer to take on interns. It was supposed to be funny because she so well fall into the stereotype.
I have never and would never throw down my experience as an appeal to authority and I never said anything about her lack of experience.
Seriously people, the thread title was an attempt at being funny. I am also a millienal. I also mentor quite a few younger people and volunteer to take on interns. It was supposed to be funny because she so well fall into the stereotype.
I have never and would never throw down my experience as an appeal to authority and I never said anything about her lack of experience.
I agree, I should've just let her lead handle it and tried to move on in the meeting. But I'm also the technical sign off on the document and the issue at hand deals directly with safety, so I am not willing to just pass it through and let it blow up in her face latter.
That being said, I am in meetings weekly where people say things far worse than what I said, heck what she was saying to me in the meeting was far worse. In my list of top 50 contentious meeting this one wouldn't have even come close.
Note: Before the meeting I already thought it was handled since I personally saw her lead tell her I was right a couple of days earlier and I heard no more about it. I had no idea she was going to pull out the "you're wrong" card on the same subject again.
I certainly won't condone the actions of someone who acted like her, but the thought of "I just got millenialed" is why they start with a chip on their shoulder.
At my job we have a decent bit of salespeople in their mid 20s (millennials) and for the most part they actually work really hard and are constantly above the top half. I'm in my mid 30s, also do well and I find that our conversations on sales and targeting strategies really help both parties. It's interesting in that they tend to use quite a bit of social media to their advantage and while I do as well I tend to be a bit more old school at my approach. One guy in particular is 24, works his ass off, was top sales person last year and might do it again this year.
I joke around with them that while the older guys are a bit of the "back in my day things were better" type I am kind of the opposite. I WISH I would have had fast internet, awesome smart phones and what not growing up. Dial up internet sucked ass back in the 90s.
Yeah, we have a lot of lazy old farts and very advanced younger people. There is another girl, same age as her, that I took on as an intern got her a full time gig and will sing her praises to anyone that will listen.
I don't believe the stereotype of millennials or any other generation. At the end of the day if you can perform great, if not but you are willing learn great, if you aren't a great performer and you aren't willing to learn then I probably won't think too highly of you, regardless of age/rank.
This is a textbook example of mansplaining.
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Not sure why people always blame this sort of stuff on millenials these days. Maybe it's just convenient. This type of stuff has happened for just about forever.
Yeah, I know that when I deal with people who talk down to me and make digs at my demographic that it doesn't affect my attitude at all. It's just an excuse people make to cover the fact that they suck.lol, bullshit. That has nothing to do with their entitled attitude.
Well, she was offended after being told she was wrong and stormed out.Sounds like a case of confirmation bias to associate that behavior with Millennials. Do you honestly believe most Millennials behave like her at the workplace?
I'm inclined to try to help/teach people too (given that it's how I like to be treated myself) but I'm here to tell you (as an apparently much older Boomer/Xer cusp-baby) that more often than not, it just blows up in your face. After the first time or two she copped attitude, I wouldn't have bothered to try again and would've just followed whatever the formal procedure there is for when you don't "technically approve" something that shows up on your desk, and let her go through channels if she didn't like it... Just be glad she's not some higher up's best-friend's daughter or god-daughter or something, 'cos then you'd be stuck with her long-term and you'd probably wind up getting the short end of the stick when she has her little tantrums...I agree, I should've just let her lead handle it and tried to move on in the meeting. But I'm also the technical sign off on the document and the issue at hand deals directly with safety, so I am not willing to just pass it through and let it blow up in her face latter.
I missed this when I posted my comment, but I hafta say, nepotism is nothing new<sigh> even when there are formal (or even strong unwritten) anti-nepotism policies in place.Just be careful, being these days, its not WHAT you know but WHO you know. I would be that the twit is the daughter/cousin/niece of someone higher up in the food chain and that is why she is working there and can have the attitude she has. It doesn't matter that she is wrong, and doesn't care that she is... she will be protected. :-/
Such is the world of nepotism we live in in the business world these days. Its quite sad and annoying...
I don't believe they are that way any more than Gen X. Everyone thinks they are hot shit when they finish college and get their first job. This is just a case of an older generation looking back and seeing less mature people. In reality, the older generation lacked just as much maturity when they were that age too. I am a millenial and I look back at people even 5 years younger than me and think about how immature they are. I can only imagine what it is like to be 40+ and look back at the 20-somethings.Well, she was offended after being told she was wrong and stormed out.
Did she even wonder why OP didn't storm out when she told him he was wrong?
My impression of millennials is that they tend to be extremely self-centered.
In our practice we've been leaning towards hiring younger (meaning 30s) because it's often easier to mold them to our way of working while at the same time they bring new more up to date ideas in many cases. The older ones (50+) have more experience but also often expect people to accommodate them more, and often want more authority too. This is of course an overgeneralization but in our line of work it often holds true.Sounds like an entitled, self-important, know-it-all. Ugh... I'd try and interact with her as little as possible. Sorry, people like that just annoy me so I don't want to deal with them lol.
At my current job, my co-workers are older than I've normally worked with (except at my high school job where they were all my parents age except for a couple) and I like my co-workers here WAY more than my previous job that was full of younger folks. They're more conservative here but there's way less shit talking behind backs and clique-iness (yes that's a word). While I don't necessarily think that sort of behavior is tied with age, I'd guess that in general older people are gonna be more mellow.
Maybe in a few cases it's just youthful exuberance and they will get over it, but the ones you really have to watch out for - the ones who do it with malice aforethought, so to speak - aren't likely to change unless their behavior gets them in serious trouble at some point and, the way office politics usually works, that's rare...there's way less shit talking behind backs and clique-iness (yes that's a word*). While I don't necessarily think that sort of behavior is tied with age, I'd guess that in general older people are gonna be more mellow.