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Slew Foot

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Paying to get rid of the charges sounds like textbook extortion. ANyway, in an ideal world the kid would get the message and be put on a straight path. In reality, thug assholes get their thug assholes to go Aaron Hernandez on you.
 

tynopik

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Aug 10, 2004
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This might be a good time to think about installing a surveillance cam, in case there is any kind of retribution.

yes, get surveillance installed asap

also, gj on standing up for yourself, we need more people who refuse to be intimidated by thugs
 

bigpimpatl

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You would have sent the wrong message if you had gone the extortion route. In principle I agree with kinev (some battles aren't worth fighting) but what you did isn't wrong (nor should be frowned upon).

$10 says your house is TP'ed on Halloween
 

Malak

Lifer
Dec 4, 2004
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Sounds like you were acting like quite the dick about something you didn't even care about. Jail time doesn't fix people, it doesn't fix the situation, it doesn't make the world a better place. Forgiveness and mercy, however, is much more likely to make an impact on the kid's life. Even if it doesn't hit home right away, later in his life he'll remember. You had an opportunity to affect another person's life, and chose to make it worse. You might tell yourself that they made that choice, but that's not true. You are responsible for your own actions too. Think about it.
 
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To set the stage, I have a small home with a carport. I have had an old mountain bike under said carport for about...hmm 2 years.

I came home from work, was inside with my wife talking etc. She goes out to the laundry room which is off the carport to change things from the washer to the dryer etc etc. She in this time notices the bike is MISSING. Calls for me to see whats up if I had moved the bike etc. NOPE the bike was there when I got home an hour ago, where is it? STOLEN. Call the few neighbors I have the phone #'s for and see if they have seen or heard anything, nothing except for one who mentioned she had seen a lot of neighbor kids walking about lately (summer I take it)

I didn't care much about the bike, but the neighbor had said to report it just so the local PD know what is going on in the neighborhood so I go ahead and do so, sheriff's dept shows up and takes my report etc, finds out we were HOME and it was under the carport, says how it is a 2nd degree felony as a burglary with occupation of home. The neighbor directly across the street (the only one I didn't contact) came over and said how she saw someone etc etc. She files her statement after me, the cop left her home and pretty much immediately after leaving her home came back to my house and asked me to follow him up the road where the neighbor suspected the kids lived, I do so and pull up on a home a few blocks up the road where the "kids" who did this live, sure enough the bike is right inside the fence against the home. The officer who took my report called to make sure we know for a fact that the bike went missing today because the mother is saying the bike in question has been "shared" with the local kids for the past few weeks. I say BS I know it went missing today. Later on, another cop comes back after a bit and says how the kids and family are outside and want to "apologize" and return the bike to me. I say no thanks I could careless what the kids have to say, go ahead and press the charges ( already filled out the report and intent to prosecute ).

The officer returns later with my bike and paper to fill out confirming I received the stolen goods. The "kid" is 17, in the patrol car on the way to the jail! Sounds good I say and close the door.

What would you have done? I could careless about a bike, I care about the fact that my wife was home all day and even I was home at the time of the theft and the perp did it anyway.

I didn't fall for the "apology please drop the charges" trap they tried to set....have a good time in jail and enjoy your summer, hope your parents have fun bailing you out and paying all the your future legal fees....

WWYD? lol

I don't know what I would have done, but kudos for teaching that kid and family a lesson. Hope it turns out to be a good lesson and not one where it just makes him want to exact revenge.

Also, it's "couldn't" and "careless" should be "care less"
 

bigpimpatl

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Jul 11, 2005
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Sounds like you were acting like quite the dick about something you didn't even care about. Jail time doesn't fix people, it doesn't fix the situation, it doesn't make the world a better place. Forgiveness and mercy, however, is much more likely to make an impact on the kid's life. Even if it doesn't hit home right away, later in his life he'll remember. You had an opportunity to affect another person's life, and chose to make it worse. You might tell yourself that they made that choice, but that's not true. You are responsible for your own actions too. Think about it.

we aren't talking about a 10 year old here. He's 17, definitely not a kid.
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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His family is going to circulate pictures of him when he was 12 and under to make you look like a monster. They are also going to insist that he didn't do anything wrong and that nothing even happened to your bike. For some idiotic reason, all their statements will be reported as fact until the entire community is outraged by your actions, just like The Legend of Billy Jean.
 
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SparkyJJO

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Awful lot of pushovers in this thread. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding. Up to this point who knows what he was getting away with, so he thinks hey crappy bike I can do this too and then bam, guess not. Reality check!

Even if there is "retribution" in a way do they dare do much to him? It would be painfully obvious who is doing what if they did try to pull any stunts.

He's 17, he knows better by now. Plus, if the parent lied also, they're all in it together anyway.
 

CZroe

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Jun 24, 2001
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Awful lot of pushovers in this thread. Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding. Up to this point who knows what he was getting away with, so he thinks hey crappy bike I can do this too and then bam, guess not. Reality check!

Even if there is "retribution" in a way do they dare do much to him? It would be painfully obvious who is doing what if they did try to pull any stunts.

He's 17, he knows better by now. Plus, if the parent lied also, they're all in it together anyway.

I agree, but the parents likely just gave the explanation the kid gave them and may not have lied at all. "He says it's been passed around between the neighborhood kids for the last week, officer." Not a lie as long as that's what the kid told them.
 

SparkyJJO

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May 16, 2002
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True, possible. But in that case then even more shame on the 17 YO and he'll hopefully get it from the parents also.
 

mizzou

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"2nd degree felony as a burglary with occupation of home"

A defense attorney would rip this to shreds. Some kid(s) went up to your wide open carport when you weren't around and took your bike. They could argue they had no clue you were home, etc. etc.

technically it COULD be burg. 2nd per statute, but in reality no way.

Misdemeanor stealing at best is what the prosecutor could charge.


Only press charges if you for sure will man up and show up in court to see justice done. If you just wanted him arrested for the scare factor, you wasted alot of resources.

Do what you want to do, kid shouldn't have stole your bike! It's not like you left it near the trash cans on the street.


And also, you weren't robbed Breaking into a home is burglary. Stealing something is theft. Taking something from your person is robbery.
 
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bigpimpatl

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Everyone is someone's kid. Age is irrelevant.

so if someone is in their late 30s and decides to steal a bike, he should be given a free pass because he is someone's child? And by showing him mercy he'll eventually mend his ways? I'm just trying to follow your viewpoint, because that logic conflicts with conventional human development and function of the brain. This situation would only make sense if the person stealing the bike had little or no recognition of crime being committed due to some deficient mental faculty.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
Jun 12, 2005
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Sounds like you were acting like quite the dick about something you didn't even care about. Jail time doesn't fix people, it doesn't fix the situation, it doesn't make the world a better place. Forgiveness and mercy, however, is much more likely to make an impact on the kid's life. Even if it doesn't hit home right away, later in his life he'll remember. You had an opportunity to affect another person's life, and chose to make it worse. You might tell yourself that they made that choice, but that's not true. You are responsible for your own actions too. Think about it.

This ^^^ Is exactly what is wrong with the world today. It is his fault and he should have let it slide? Really?
 

Patranus

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I understand your desire to punish the "kid", but if the whole family is degenerates (sounds like it if the mom was lying to the sheriff), then don't they know where you live?

I mean, they can really make your life miserable if they want to. I'm not saying that I wouldn't have done the same thing, but did you consider the "revenge costs" associated with pressing charges?

What, good citizens are suppose to be intimidated by degenerates, thugs, and criminals???

No wonder things are going to shit.

We need MORE people like the OP who stand up for themselves and definitively state that stealing property is not ok. Period.
 

madoka

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What, good citizens are suppose to be intimidated by degenerates, thugs, and criminals???

No wonder things are going to shit.

We need MORE people like the OP who stand up for themselves and definitively state that stealing property is not ok. Period.

+1

I would have pressed charges, looked into hitting them again with a civil suit, and posted pictures of the punk around the neighborhood warning of burglars.
 

Timorous

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Oct 27, 2008
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I would have done the same thing. I hate thieves, you work hard to buy the stuff you own then some shit head comes along and takes it. In this case it was a relatively worthless bike but the principle is the same.

You will know what these people are like best so if you think having a talk with the kids parents about the situation could be constructive then it might be worth thinking about if you want to.
 

unokitty

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I came home from work, was inside with my wife talking etc. She goes out to the laundry room which is off the carport to change things from the washer to the dryer etc etc. She in this time notices the bike is MISSING. Calls for me to see whats up if I had moved the bike etc. NOPE the bike was there when I got home an hour ago, where is it? STOLEN....

... The neighbor directly across the street (the only one I didn't contact) came over and said how she saw someone etc etc. She files her statement after me, the cop left her home and pretty much immediately after leaving her home came back to my house and asked me to follow him up the road where the neighbor suspected the kids lived, ...

What would you have done? I could careless about a bike, I care about the fact that my wife was home all day and even I was home at the time of the theft and the perp did it anyway.

WWYD? lol


Good job! You, your neighbor, and your local PD all did well!

Lots of non reality in this thread. Thieves don't go back to where they know they will be punished.

Forgive a 17 year old thief, and likely they will be back in less than a week to see what else that they can steal.

Fact is most thieves are stupid and lazy. But even stupid thieves are smart enough to steal from places where they feel least likely to be prosecuted.

If you feel at all insecure, be sure to contact your local police department. Many have the discretion to increase the number of patrols through your neighborhood.

Stay the course. The more thieves that are held responsible for their actions, the less theft honest people will experience.

Uno
Military Police Academy Graduate May '70
 
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chin311

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Feb 27, 2003
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I do realize I wasn't "robbed", I just sensationalized the thread title!

I get what people are saying about the "consequences" of pressing charges but after finding out the kid is 17 just made me happier I did it. You SHOULD know better by that age, if he was say 12, yeah maybe just being foolish but give me a break. I am sure this wasn't his first theft...if so, oops.

Also, it was painfully obvious that someone was home because we had a car under the same carport as the bike as well as another car in the front yard. You have to walk up my entire driveway before you even get to the carport, then walk up basically to my side door of my home under the carport to get the bike. So the fact that this tard came up and did this while we were sitting inside is what irks me.

I will keep an eye out a bit more than usual. We have had ZERO problems living here for 2.5+ years and have ZERO enemies (until now) so if anything were to happen in the near future it would be pretty obvious who did it. Luckily it seems our neighbors keep pretty watchful eye (few retirees) so that helps me, and is really the reason this guy was caught lickity split.

I'll probably throw up a cam under the carport today to assist, I have been meaning to anyway but this will quicken that up. Just sucks because the wife shaken a bit from this and she tends to be home alone during the day at least for a few hours, she always has protection, but I would LIKE to think this would end here.

Now I have to wait til tonight when I get to see the sheriff's office put up his booking images/sheet.

Oh and bonus, the bike had flat tires for quite some time and it appears when the officer dropped it off they are pumped up and ready to ride! If it wasn't so damn hot maybe I'd take a stroll by in my hot ticket item...
 
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Eli

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Sounds like you were acting like quite the dick about something you didn't even care about. Jail time doesn't fix people, it doesn't fix the situation, it doesn't make the world a better place. Forgiveness and mercy, however, is much more likely to make an impact on the kid's life. Even if it doesn't hit home right away, later in his life he'll remember. You had an opportunity to affect another person's life, and chose to make it worse. You might tell yourself that they made that choice, but that's not true. You are responsible for your own actions too. Think about it.

Er.. The OP didn't make the kids life worse. The kid made his own life worse by committing a crime.

That's the real lesson here. Think about it.

OP did the right thing.
 
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