I got robbed!

Page 4 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Jimzz

Diamond Member
Oct 23, 2012
4,399
190
106
What, good citizens are suppose to be intimidated by degenerates, thugs, and criminals???

No wonder things are going to shit.

We need MORE people like the OP who stand up for themselves and definitively state that stealing property is not ok. Period.



Agreed.

That and its not like this kid will get jail time, unless its not his first arrest.
Chances are it will get plead down to almost nothing and get some probation. If hes smart he will not do it again and get straight. Worse you at least put him in the system since he will be there his whole life. Since his mom was willing to lie for something this petty I'm guessing stupid runs in the family.
 

chin311

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2003
4,307
3
81
wait.. how did it go from your neighbor saw something to bingo, the perp is there?

and why didnt the neighbor tell u she saw someone take your bike?

as for pressing charges... :thumbsup:
"Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding"

She had saw someone in my driveway riding off on a bike but didn't pay close enough mind to who/what etc, it was around the afternoon thunderstorm time of day. She walks her dogs in the neighborhood often and knows where some kids live that are constantly walking about and seem up to no good (oh no profiling! =-O), the cop checked there first and found the bike right away in their yard...then got me to come identify before confronting them.

From the time I filed the police report to the time I got the bike back and he went to jail was probably 2 hours or less...Hopefully he didn't even get to eat dinner before taking an unplanned ride!

Just walk around visibly carrying to/from your car, etc. Word will get around and nobody will mess with your house.

haha, sometimes this happens anyway
 

DrunkenSano

Diamond Member
Aug 8, 2008
3,892
490
126
Had his mother not lied, maybe one would be slightly more inclined to agree to not press charged. But it's obvious that the kid is not going to be punished or taught correctly at home, definitely let the system take care of him. He steals a bike now and if not punished, in ten years he could be boosting cars.
 

chin311

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2003
4,307
3
81
Had his mother not lied, maybe one would be slightly more inclined to agree to not press charged. But it's obvious that the kid is not going to be punished or taught correctly at home, definitely let the system take care of him. He steals a bike now and if not punished, in ten years he could be boosting cars.

Exactly. If he had never been in real trouble before maybe it will put a little scare into him and he'll think about that time he stole a piece of shit bike and got toted off to jail an hour or two later... Apologies don't cut it here, I don't think he would have been knocking on my door apologizing and returning the bike had the cops not been detaining him LOL if he's apologizing he's admitting guilt, done!

ooooo..... maybe he'll be charged as an adult for the felony.

keep us posted.
heck, link the case.. shoul be public info

I'm awaiting the booking pic & info page and when it comes up I'll supply the details, probably sometime tonight/tomorrow morning...
 

chin311

Diamond Member
Feb 27, 2003
4,307
3
81
Time to move.

Trust me, there's nothing I'd rather do! Wife trying to finish up school here because of tuition and blah blah but I hate it so much for many other reasons that sometimes we contemplate rolling the dice and getting out sooner than later.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
30,160
3,302
126
Typical american response, heartless, shoot first, ask question later, all over a worthless unlocked piece of junk.

Before pressing charges and possibly ruining this kid's life, here is what I would have done

Found out if the kid had prior troubles with the law and prosecute if he did.
If not I would have requested a few hours of manual labor as a restitution, mowing the lawn maybe or whatever I could think of. Maybe get to know the kid and be a good influence while I was at it.

jesus christ whats w/the blame the victim mentality?

what if your daughter, who wore a miniskirt, got raped?
 
Last edited:

NesuD

Diamond Member
Oct 9, 1999
4,999
106
106
The officer who took my report called to make sure we know for a fact that the bike went missing today because the mother is saying the bike in question has been "shared" with the local kids for the past few weeks. I say BS I know it went missing today. Later on, another cop comes back after a bit and says how the kids and family are outside and want to "apologize" and return the bike to me.


Burn them! I hate when parents blatantly lie to protect their perfect little angels. As far as I am concerned that makes the parents as much a criminal as the kid. We had a family like that in my neighborhood for a while. Never able to make anything stick even with eye witnesses because the parents would always swear he was home with them at the time the crime was committed and lacking any other evidence police could do nothing.
 

blackdogdeek

Lifer
Mar 14, 2003
14,454
10
81
Ironically, I bet you probably would have let them borrow the bike if they had only just politely asked you first.
 

j&j

Senior member
Oct 10, 2011
246
0
0
The only thing I'd be worried about is retaliation, 17 year old thug kids are a concern when they live so close and know where you live. If I thought the kid had many friends, was in a gang/dangerous I would have let it go because if they did retaliate things could go south quickly.
 

Krazy4Real

Lifer
Oct 3, 2003
12,222
55
91
You did the right thing OP! Wow... you have some pretty awesome cops there. You need to really thank them. Maybe get them some donuts or something.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
48,518
5,340
136
Had his mother not lied, maybe one would be slightly more inclined to agree to not press charged. But it's obvious that the kid is not going to be punished or taught correctly at home, definitely let the system take care of him. He steals a bike now and if not punished, in ten years he could be boosting cars.

Yeah, I think that was the tipping point - the mom should have stood her ground and disciplined her son instead of covering for him. Because technically, you now have a theft of property from an occupied house, with a second person lying to cover it up. On the flip side, I understand the mom not wanting to get her son in trouble, but the whole thing is fishy because she said it was a "shared bike among the neighborhood kids for weeks". Plus, who doesn't question something as expensive as a new bicycle randomly floating around in their yard?

Yes, there's the potential for bad blood from them as neighbors, but the kid shot himself in the foot with his actions. I would be a pushover if he was like 10 or 12 years old, but he's 17 - old enough to get a driver's license, old enough to join the military with parental consent, probably about to graduate high school & go live on his own. He knew better. And his mom didn't just play dumb, she completely covered for him - that's a terrible example to teach your kid, that you can be bailed out if needed to cover your illegal actions. Plus it was pretty bold to just leave the bike lying out in the yard on the kid's fence, and not even hide it in the garage or something.

I'd say OP did the right thing under the circumstances.
 

momeNt

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2011
9,297
352
126
Had his mother not lied, maybe one would be slightly more inclined to agree to not press charged. But it's obvious that the kid is not going to be punished or taught correctly at home, definitely let the system take care of him. He steals a bike now and if not punished, in ten years he could be boosting cars.

The system does not rehabilitate people, it is designed to give society a short reprieve while they are in prison and then let them back out. They usually return very shortly.

With that being said, I think retaliation is unlikely considering he has some energetic cops in his neighborhood. If it does happen, shoot to kill.
 

Puppies04

Diamond Member
Apr 25, 2011
5,909
17
76
I would be worried about future repercussions to my property, but I live in the UK where defending said property usually lands you in jail. If I was in the US and lived in a state with decent trespass laws I wouldn't give a shit and would shoot the kneecaps off anyone who stepped foot on my land.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
20,433
1,769
126
I had a similar experience a few years ago, I had left my garage door open for awhile as a tropical storm approached and I was putting stuff in there so it wouldn't blow around. Next day I noticed my beach cruiser missing, someone had snuck in there while I was in the house. FF 2-3 weeks, I'm cruising through my neighborhood and lo and behold I see a teen on my bike!, all the idiot had to do was buy a $2 can of spray paint and I'd have never known, I swung the car around, stomped on it and pulled up right next to him and did a "street repo", the kid was terrified, claimed "someone gave it to me", after he handed over the bike he ran off on foot. I did call call the cops and gave a good description, there was no way at 50+ I'm gonna catch a wiry 17yr old, felt good to scare the crap out of him though LOL.
 

JEDI

Lifer
Sep 25, 2001
30,160
3,302
126
I would be worried about future repercussions to my property, but I live in the UK where defending said property usually lands you in jail. If I was in the US and lived in a state with decent trespass laws I wouldn't give a shit and would shoot the kneecaps off anyone who stepped foot on my land.

wtf is up w/those stupid pro-gypsie laws they have over there?
 

lozina

Lifer
Sep 10, 2001
11,709
8
81
I had a similar experience a few years ago, I had left my garage door open for awhile as a tropical storm approached and I was putting stuff in there so it wouldn't blow around. Next day I noticed my beach cruiser missing, someone had snuck in there while I was in the house. FF 2-3 weeks, I'm cruising through my neighborhood and lo and behold I see a teen on my bike!, all the idiot had to do was buy a $2 can of spray paint and I'd have never known, I swung the car around, stomped on it and pulled up right next to him and did a "street repo", the kid was terrified, claimed "someone gave it to me", after he handed over the bike he ran off on foot. I did call call the cops and gave a good description, there was no way at 50+ I'm gonna catch a wiry 17yr old, felt good to scare the crap out of him though LOL.

I would not condone taking the matter into your own hands. Kid could have easily had a gun or knife and had he stabbed/shot you could have claimed self defense since you were the aggressor. Just sayin'......
 

Jimzz

Diamond Member
Oct 23, 2012
4,399
190
106
OP I would write up a letter just saying on XYZ my bike was stolen and so and so at ABC address was arrested. Please make sure to keep an eye out for your property and your neighbors. Makes copies and pass it out to your neighbors.

That way you have the whole neighborhood watching instead of just you. Also may show this was not the first time. You can see how many pansies we have there saying “let the criminals run your neighborhood, don’t stand up for yourself…” so could be more going on than you know.

And I’m glad others caught what I saw, the parent trying to cover this up. As a father the worse thing to happen to my son would be from me and his mom, not the court in a case like this.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
20,433
1,769
126
I would be worried about future repercussions to my property, but I live in the UK where defending said property usually lands you in jail. If I was in the US and lived in a state with decent trespass laws I wouldn't give a shit and would shoot the kneecaps off anyone who stepped foot on my land.

Your not allowed to use deadly force like that for a simple trespass, if said person is attempting to break into the domicile though it's game on.
 

BUTCH1

Lifer
Jul 15, 2000
20,433
1,769
126
I would not condone taking the matter into your own hands. Kid could have easily had a gun or knife and had he stabbed/shot you could have claimed self defense since you were the aggressor. Just sayin'......

True, but damm it felt good!
 

Murloc

Diamond Member
Jun 24, 2008
5,382
65
91
Burn them! I hate when parents blatantly lie to protect their perfect little angels. As far as I am concerned that makes the parents as much a criminal as the kid. We had a family like that in my neighborhood for a while. Never able to make anything stick even with eye witnesses because the parents would always swear he was home with them at the time the crime was committed and lacking any other evidence police could do nothing.
sounds gypsy.
 
sale-70-410-exam    | Exam-200-125-pdf    | we-sale-70-410-exam    | hot-sale-70-410-exam    | Latest-exam-700-603-Dumps    | Dumps-98-363-exams-date    | Certs-200-125-date    | Dumps-300-075-exams-date    | hot-sale-book-C8010-726-book    | Hot-Sale-200-310-Exam    | Exam-Description-200-310-dumps?    | hot-sale-book-200-125-book    | Latest-Updated-300-209-Exam    | Dumps-210-260-exams-date    | Download-200-125-Exam-PDF    | Exam-Description-300-101-dumps    | Certs-300-101-date    | Hot-Sale-300-075-Exam    | Latest-exam-200-125-Dumps    | Exam-Description-200-125-dumps    | Latest-Updated-300-075-Exam    | hot-sale-book-210-260-book    | Dumps-200-901-exams-date    | Certs-200-901-date    | Latest-exam-1Z0-062-Dumps    | Hot-Sale-1Z0-062-Exam    | Certs-CSSLP-date    | 100%-Pass-70-383-Exams    | Latest-JN0-360-real-exam-questions    | 100%-Pass-4A0-100-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-300-135-exams-date    | Passed-200-105-Tech-Exams    | Latest-Updated-200-310-Exam    | Download-300-070-Exam-PDF    | Hot-Sale-JN0-360-Exam    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Exams    | 100%-Pass-JN0-360-Real-Exam-Questions    | Dumps-JN0-360-exams-date    | Exam-Description-1Z0-876-dumps    | Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps    | Dumps-HPE0-Y53-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-HPE0-Y53-Exam    | 100%-Pass-HPE0-Y53-Real-Exam-Questions    | Pass-4A0-100-Exam    | Latest-4A0-100-Questions    | Dumps-98-365-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-98-365-Exam    | 100%-Pass-VCS-254-Exams    | 2017-Latest-VCS-273-Exam    | Dumps-200-355-exams-date    | 2017-Latest-300-320-Exam    | Pass-300-101-Exam    | 100%-Pass-300-115-Exams    |
http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    | http://www.portvapes.co.uk/    |