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SXMP

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Originally posted by: samgau
PS: I personally don't have any problems with the other religions.... I believe all are valid paths to what we seek....

I would like to kindly point out that what you are saying is contradictory. If you believe that my "belief" is a "valid path" then (and here's what I'm implying based off your semanitcal usage) you accept what I believe as making sense. Now, I'm curious:
- How could you logically say my beliefs make sense (for example, that Jesus is the only way to the Lord and that he asks us to first and foremost BELIEVE he died for our sins, and if we feel that way, to share that message (the Good News) with others,) and that they would coincide and be valid next to say Judiahism (the belief that the Savior still has not come, that one is "credited with righteousness" by actions, and that all one has to do in life is follow God's Law). Intrinsically, the two sets of beliefs are in conflict. If one thinks both are correct (or add in x number of other beliefs) they are contradicting themselves.

With that said, something to consider about Christianity: Jesus is the only "God" that actually LOVES sinners.

And finally, on topic with the original posters concern: if you don't like it its your perogitive to do what you want about it, including posting here. However, I would encourage you to try to look at life (and its inhabitants) without hate, but rather instrospectivley. For instance, I am sure in your life you have done something to help others (I truly hope you've been blessed with at least 1 oppurtunity and siezed it). Try to remember the feeling you had from being able to pass on your abilities, wisdom, knowledge, or time. Remember the thanks you probably recieved because the person/s you helped understood the sacrifice you made. Now exchange that feeling for one of disgust and disdain EVEN after you THOUGHT you helped them. To you, it just doesn't make sense, you did something you thought was good (regardless of whether it was or wasn't). I know I would certainly be confused and hurt if that happened (and it has happened to me, like many people). The point is, I think we can agree in life that there are misunderstandings, and I would argue that one doesn't need to be ignite these misunderstandings into somethings which are upsetting (unless you subscribe to the ideaology that life is about being angry, hateful, and of course, upsetting.)

If you aren't seeking anyone else's comments, then please ignore what I said. But, if as I surmise by you posting here, where looking from honest answers from other people, then try to consider what I've said.

I hope it helps, just as it helped me when I was in a similiar position. If its okay, I'll pray for you.

John
 

Aosh

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Hello all,

So after reading a few pages of posts, I'm just going to point out something reallly interesting I noticed. This is anandtech, so I'll try to be logical here.

Person X claims to believe in the set of beliefs A.

Anyone have a problem with Person X? Ok, good. Person X, we accept you for who you are.

Person Y claims to believe in the set of beliefs B.

Fine.

Both A and B can be subsets of the set of all truths, and so both can be right. But the claim "Only belief A is correct" is an element of belief A. Therefore:

Unless A==B, then either both Person X and person Y are wrong, or one of the other is right.

And this last sticky bit is where all the confusion is at.

Point A.
The Chinese girl belongs to the party that says one or the other is right.

Point B.
I hope none of you are saying "Both X and Y are wrong, so who cares?" To that, I'll say, your set of beliefs belongs to one of X and Y. I never said X and Y are religious beliefs -they could be anything (other than subjective opinions). Therefore you are also wrong.

Point C.
And I think most of you guys think A==B. "Person X believes in this, Person Y believes in Y, who cares? They're all the same. Don't bother me." To this, I'll apply the same reasoning as in Point B. Let person Y actually be you and set of beliefs B is actually your own world view. Therefore, you believe your worldview is equivalent to Person X's. So there is no conflict -why get angry?

I have to say guys, Point A makes more sense to me than B or C. I don't know what she told you, but honestly, I cannot say I can give her beef for anything she said, or I would have to seriously question my logic. I think a polite "Thank you, but no thank you" would have been better than trying to get her mad.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Originally posted by: Vic
I just wish that the kids here would realize that these zealots do NOT represent mainstream Christianity.
True, mainstream Christians aren't Fund A Mental Cases or Evanga Whackos. Unfortunately those Wankers make the most noise and are the biggest pests so they give all Christians a bad name.

"...do you only feel comfortable saying the things you do from the safety of the anonymity of the Internet."?
 
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