I hate CSS (cascading style sheets)

[kbirger]

i'm working on a quickie website for someone, i have that news table within a cell in another table and its CSS class tells it that it should be positioned relatively 5xp from the top, instead it seems to be counting from the middle of its parent cell....
http://kbirger.no-ip.org/kir/hyd/template.htm

anyone know why?

 

[AMDZen]

Damn, and I thought you were going to rag on CS:S.

/leaves thread

 

[fs5]

change the valign to top
< td valign="top" background="template_files/brickMain.jpg" >

nothing to do w/ css

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

http://forums.anandtech.com/categories.aspx?catid=33&flcache=6995580&entercat=y

 

[RaDragon]

valign="top"

 

[kbirger]

i tried that, then no matter what i set the relative position to, it sticks to top

 

[777php]

you may need to set the page border to 0, not in css either.

 

Originally posted by: kbirger
i'm working on a quickie website for someone, i have that news table within a cell in another table and its CSS class tells it that it should be positioned relatively 5xp from the top, instead it seems to be counting from the middle of its parent cell....
http://kbirger.no-ip.org/kir/hyd/template.htm

anyone know why?

Ironically the table abuse you are committing is the very reason CSS was invented!

 

[kbirger]

page border? what does that do and how do i use it?

 

[kbirger]

yeah well i have no idea how to make that sort of layout in CSS... if you can give me detailed advice on that i'll redo it =)

 

[KEV1N]

Why are you even using CSS when you're relying on tables for your main layout?

 

[KEV1N]

Sorry, constructive: http://wellstyled.com/css-2col-fluid-layout.html

 

[Abix]

Originally posted by: AMDZen
Damn, and I thought you were going to rag on CS:S.

/leaves thread

 

[kbirger]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
Why are you even using CSS when you're relying on tables for your main layout?

because i am trying to transition and because i don't know a better way to make sure that one table is in a certain position in relation to it's parent table

 

[nakedfrog]

Because it hates you too?

 

[Turkish]

Here's something I'm working on: http://www.moveba.com

All CSS, no tables. for some reason it looks messed up today. looked fine before

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: The Boss
Here's something I'm working on: http://www.moveba.com

All CSS, no tables.

it looks messed up

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: The Boss
Here's something I'm working on: http://www.moveba.com

All CSS, no tables.

my I politely suggest a body margin? I dislike when the layout touches the borders of the browser window.

 

[kbirger]

looks fine for me although it seems liike a shameless plug

 

[Yossarian]

Originally posted by: KEV1N
Why are you even using CSS when you're relying on tables for your main layout?

should you not use tables for layout? it seems like an easy way to go.

p.s. I've been studying html for 3 weeks so I'm a n00b at this.

 

[fs5]

Originally posted by: Yossarian

Originally posted by: KEV1N
Why are you even using CSS when you're relying on tables for your main layout?

should you not use tables for layout? it seems like an easy way to go.

p.s. I've been studying html for 3 weeks so I'm a n00b at this.

tables is a good way to start. but learn css, it is a much better way to design a page. It helps seperates layout/design from content.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: toekramp

Originally posted by: The Boss
Here's something I'm working on: http://www.moveba.com

All CSS, no tables.

it looks messed up

I did not ask for your opinion.

 

[kbirger]

1) if you didn't want an opinion you should have made a clear reason for your post
2) i think he meant that it didn't display right for him - which you should know
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anyway, uhh, the problem i have with a lot of divs and stuff is, if my content which is often dynamic stretches taller than the 'layout' divs as "http://wellstyled.com/css-2col-fluid-layout.html" seems to tell you to do, then the text goes off into nothing..


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that site has a part where it has ...

#content {
width: 90%;
margin:1em auto;
border: 1px solid black;
text-align:left;
background: url('bkgr.gif') 30% 0% repeat-y;
max-width: 1024px;
}

#sidebar {
float: left;
width: 30%;
margin:0; padding:0;

width:90% and width: 30%????

 

[Injury]

Which class are we talking about here? If it's "content", then I see a couple of problems.

.content {
w1idth: 620px;
width: 98%;
max-width: 800px;
height: 100%;
}

Not only did you misspell "width", you are using TWO width commands and 3 different kinds of width commands. Think about what this is supposed to do here. If an item is supposed to have a width of 620px, then why the hell do you have to define "max-width".... I've never even heard of "max-width", either. Edit: Ok, max-width is a command... but using it on an interior table doesn't make much sense.


If you are trying to validate for HTML, first validate your CSS. The validators at w3c.org can help a lot.

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: kbirger
1) if you didn't want an opinion you should have made a clear reason for your post
2) i think he meant that it didn't display right for him - which you should know
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anyway, uhh, the problem i have with a lot of divs and stuff is, if my content which is often dynamic stretches taller than the 'layout' divs as "http://wellstyled.com/css-2col-fluid-layout.html" seems to tell you to do, then the text goes off into nothing..


----
that site has a part where it has ...

#content {
width: 90%;
margin:1em auto;
border: 1px solid black;
text-align:left;
background: url('bkgr.gif') 30% 0% repeat-y;
max-width: 1024px;
}

#sidebar {
float: left;
width: 30%;
margin:0; padding:0;

width:90% and width: 30%????

toekramp is my buddy in real life