i hate maxtors man!!!!

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serialb

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Dude, if the drive has problem, RMA it. You don't need receipts for that. Just email the maxtor customer service and ask for an RMA number. Ship back the drive and they'll ship a new one to you.

Maxtor makes solid drives, but still, a fraction of them could be lemons. If nothing works, RMA it.
 

medusaccino

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i need more details about RMAing. where should i go for this or who should i call? can i do 2 drives ?
 

darkside9923

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Ok sorry I have to jump in on this one. This is defintly a problem between the keyboard and the chair. Ive used maxtor drives for at least 6 years and havent had a problem but guess what I could....any hard drive manufacture has a failure rate, its just a matter if you get the drive that has the problem or someone else. Thats life, look at IBM they use to be sworn as the best drive and now there are threats of law suites, people swearing never to use them again and advising everyone not to buy them, this can happen to any manufacture, wether it be maxtor, Western Digital, Seagate.... Now back to the actual question You need to go to Maxtors web site and do a search for a low level format, if there is a bad partition, NTFS, Linux partion etc DOS will not be able to over write it (FDISK) you will need to low level format the drive, now this will take a while but Ive never had a Maxtor I couldnt overwrite...just my 2 cents
 

medusaccino

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Everybody says its my problem. but put yourself in my situation, i seriously tried alot of things and still no use. maybe Abit kt7a is not well preformin with the maxtors?? i dunno
 

CraigRT

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after 4 hours of tryin to formatt a 40 GIG drive maxtor on disk managment on win2k , it says volume too big!!! freakin stupid drives. i have 2 of them and none of them work !!!!

Don't use FAT32 dumbass.. Maxtor rules!
 

CraigRT

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<< I always have a bad temper and disrespectfull too >>



I'll get right on that..

Dude it's not the Maxtor's fault, so don't be an idiot...
 

medusaccino

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sometimes it could be , you can never know. i am just giving up on this. i put so much time on it. if you were in my spot you would been cursin the whole world out by now. by the way, you need to drop your neon and put some hot rims 16" cuz i dont think a 17" would fit. Also a computer chip wouldnt do much, if you a neon fan , hook it up with mufflers first.
 

CraigRT

Lifer
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It has a high flow exhaust, and it has 16" rims, since it's winter i am waiting for spring before i lower it 2"

don't worry i'm 1 step ahead of ya
 

darkside9923

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<< Everybody says its my problem. but put yourself in my situation, i seriously tried alot of things and still no use. maybe Abit kt7a is not well preformin with the maxtors?? i dunno >>


Dude, Im not trying to be an a-hole seriously, I would try to the low level format, that is what a manufacture does as soon as a drive comes in for refurb.....that and a surface scan both of which can be found in the maxtor low level format utility, make sure to get the one built for that drive
 

CraigRT

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Try formatting in NTFS file system if you haven't already, i am guessing that is the entire root of your problem, FAT32 won't work on a 40GB drive, i've dealt with this before on the SAME HARD DRIVE even.. brand doesn't matter.. 40GB is too much for FAT32.
 

TheGreenGoblin

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Win2k if i'm not mistaken cant handle Fat32 partitions over 32 GB , Win98 can but not 2k.


Medusaccino , if you don't want to get bashed for your lack of troubleshooting skills don't be so quick to shift the blame to the hardware. There are a few ppl here that take "brand loyalty" to new levels if you bash their "preferred" brand of anything , especially when the hardware's not too blame.
 

flexy

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hi..just following this thread

You still did NOT answer the many questions about how your drives are jumpered !

"Auto-Detect" is no answer since the jumpers usually are "chip-select", "master", "slave" - or do you mean "chip-select" ?

If there's something screwed up with the jumpers then of course it wont work !

First..solve THIS...

THEN....stay away from any MAXBLAST...3rd party "hd-tools" whatever...maxblast doesnt work forme either (it doesnt even recognize the drive on my new mobo, worked on an old mobo tho)...anyway the 40gig maxtor works like a charm otherwise.

Use...FDISK for partitioning (or partition magic if you own it and know what you're doing) and DOS: FORMAT

That's it.....

If the drives get recognized in bios....then that's all it needs to be...but dont MESS with any setting in the bios, eg. LBA, sectors...leave all at default/AUTO if possible.

Do the drives (start with ONE, not TWO drives, and jumper it to "chip-select" [factory default] or "MASTER"...put it on IDE channel ONE...on the right CABLE (ie; ATA 66/100 cable).

Is it recognized in the bios ? Can you boot to dos on a floppy and start FDISK/use FORMAT ?????

 

medusaccino

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ok to answer these questions. first, the jumper is set on chip-select and thats what i meant by auto detect (my bad). and its connected to IDE2 on the master connector. it shows in the bios. i tried to do fdisk, i deleted a partition then i created a partition then i rebooted and when i rebooted i couldnt find the drive to format!. so what i did is i unplugged my operatin system drive on IDE1 master, and i plugged the maxtor instead. so now i only got one hardrive on IDE1 master connector and thats it in the whole computer. so i deleted the partition and i created one and then when i came back to fromat, it said, no fixed drive installed!

i havent tried to use a low level format utility or i havent tried in NTFS file system yet. ( i dunno how to format in NTFS file system ) . And Nope i havent updated the bios.

And iam sorry for insultin the brand name maxtor! as GreenGoblin said, there are some users that take a loylaty brand to a newer level. so sorry for bashin on maxtor hahah. i seriously find this funny. thanks for help tho guys. i love the input!
 

Cosmic_Horror

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ok if you can see the hard drive in the bios you are half way there.

what i would do in this situation is remove any other hard drives you have in the systemm and put this hard drive set up as Master. Get youself a win98 boot disk and maxtor should have a little utility that writes zeros to every sector etc (basically a low level format), run it and clear the hard drive completely!

Once you have done that boot and run fdisk and start from scratch again! If you want one large fat32 partition you either have to do it using win98 fdisk or a third party software as win2k will not creat partitions greater than 32gb in fat32, but will read partitions already created.

fdisk and format hard drive as per normal then try installing win2k, make sure when you install it you choose to install to an exisiting partitiona nd not to create or change them...

let us know how you go!
 

CraigRT

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<< Win2k if i'm not mistaken cant handle Fat32 partitions over 32 GB , Win98 can but not 2k. >>



FAT is FAT.. if the partition is over 32GB you are screwed either way. make sure it's NTFS, or partition your drive and then format into FAT sections!!!



<< or i havent tried in NTFS file system yet. >>



WTF? dude i told you before.. that IS YOUR PROBLEM.. for sure, no questions asked. no doubt at all !!! either use NTFS or partition the drive to less than 32GB and then use FAT! Sorry, but when ppl are stubborn, it makes it hard to be cool about it, if you'd listened before you wouldn't still be having the problem..
 

ST4RCUTTER

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medusaccino,

It's not my place to judge your abilities, my goal was only to point out that Maxtor drives have a proven track record, and based on your posts, user error seems the most likely culprit here. Whatever you do, don't "chuck" those drives out the window. :Q

i told you that the drive was on AUTO DETECT that means the jumpers should be ok and i think you realy cant miss pluggin a drive if you just took it out of the original and just plug it right in the maxtor. it takes a second man. brainless.

ok to answer these questions. first, the jumper is set on chip-select and thats what i meant by auto detect (my bad).

Jumpers are still required even when auto detect is set, and I think you mean cable select, not chip-select. The master/slave setting must be set correctly. You also need to verify that the master is set to the end position on the IDE cable and that the second drive is set to slave. Auto detect determines the sector/track setup as well as other characteristics of the drive itself not the IDE configuration.


About the ata100 controller on board that didnt work. i pressed F6 to identify a raid + controller and i installed it and then it gets up and boots fine without any drives attached. i check in the device manager looks all good and pretty. now i plug my maxtor in and i boot up , it crashes on start up in win2k. i unplugged the maxtor and rebooted it booted up fine. yah for your info, i have my boot up disk is my a WD 8 gig resides on the IDE connectors and thats where i always boot up from. so i got my WD going to boot up and i hook the maxtors up , it crashes. i take them off it , it boots up fine. i hope i got all your doubts down, st4rcutter.

What is displayed when it crashes?
 

CraigRT

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FAT32 vs NTFS

Here is a FAQ for you to read, down below it says you cannot format a partition of larger than 32GB in Win2k/XP. either make 2, or use your main one in NTFS, and formatting it in NTFS is the same way, if you boot into windows, it asks you how you want to format it, just select NTFS instead of FAT32. so easy.
 

rahvin

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<< ok to answer these questions. first, the jumper is set on chip-select and thats what i meant by auto detect (my bad). and its connected to IDE2 on the master connector. it shows in the bios. i tried to do fdisk, i deleted a partition then i created a partition then i rebooted and when i rebooted i couldnt find the drive to format!. so what i did is i unplugged my operatin system drive on IDE1 master, and i plugged the maxtor instead. so now i only got one hardrive on IDE1 master connector and thats it in the whole computer. >>



You've got the drive jumpered wrong. There is no such thing as chip-select on a hard drive. There are usually 3 jumpers, Master, Slave and Cable-Select. Cable-Select will pick Master or Slave depending on which port on the cable you plug the drive on. In my experience Cable-Select is the worst setting you can pick. You should either jumper the drive as a Master or Slave, the sticker on the hard drive tells you what to jumper for the type of configuration you have (ie single drive master, dual drive master, dual drive slave). Do NOT assume you know how to jumper the drive.

Second, you appear to have selected LBA mode on the harddrive in the bios. You should auto both the detection of the hard drive and the detection of the type of hard drive. (I believe there is a mode that was created after LBA that is used on modern hard drives).

Jumper it correctly and set the BIOS to autodetect and you shouldn't have any problems.
 

smp

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Yes, jumper is as master, put it on IDE1 set it to auto detect.
The chances of two drives being bad are very slim.
Make an NTFS partition
Make a Fat Partition

easy as pi
 
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