I hate my boss. Who's with me?

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Exterous

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Jun 20, 2006
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My boss is great. She's super busy and I function well without micromanagement so it works out. Basically I do my thing and occasionally go to her when we need to spend $50k on something

2. Can't believe he's paid six figs to work from home 3x a week and barely does anything. He would not last a week elsewhere outside of this huge bloated company.

Its been my experience that there are a great number of places he would fit right in - many of which are tax payer funded
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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If you write medical/healthcare software, you are part of the problem. All such companies are pathological money grubbing self entitled corporations without integrity or merit. They create proprietary software abominations that follow no known standard, don't communicate well with other software in use and, require a total rewrite just to change the format of reports.
Very good arguments why we need a revolution in health care in the USA. A hundred companies creating competing pathetic programs is utterly disfunctional. A single payer focused approach doesn't guarantee a great system off the bat but you at least know the enemy and where to apply energies to improve, energies from all directions.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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Jun 19, 2004
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Very good arguments why we need a revolution in health care in the USA. A hundred companies creating competing pathetic programs is utterly disfunctional. A single payer focused approach doesn't guarantee a great system off the bat but you at least know the enemy and where to apply energies to improve, energies from all directions.
I know of a number of large hospitals who actually use runners to move some information around to different departments because different software packages will not communicate with each other. Then there's the concept of "modules" which is an out and out money grab to make bad software slightly more useable for outrageous sums over and above the obscene amount they paid for the original program. Healthcare has THE worst software on the planet bar none. Being an IRS agent or used car salesman is a step above anyone who writes medical software.
 

Captante

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Oct 20, 2003
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Sorry to disappoint but my boss is a decent guy.

Will be happy to pile on hating your boss though!
 

bfun_x1

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May 29, 2015
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I wish I could keep a boss. New boss has been on the job for 2 weeks. Previous boss lasted 11 months. Boss before that 6 months. Boss before that last 2 years but he did end up suing his boss when he left. Before him I was the boss for 5 months. Boss before me made it 1 year. It's a revolving door position that's pretty much killed our teams ability to function correctly.
 

Fardringle

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Oct 23, 2000
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Gobluth, I don't know your boss well enough to know if I hate him or not, but based on your description, I DO hate that he is a boss in that position. Is that close enough?

p.s. My boss is cool. I only 'hate' him when upper management forces him to make us do stupid stuff (kind of like your boss).
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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My current boss is ok, don't really have issues with him. At another job though, I was stationed at one of our customers as a contractor. The IT manager was basically my boss, and he was one hell of an asshole and that's putting it nicely. I could go on and on about him, but basically he was the type of person that whatever you do is never good enough, and he'll manipulate situations to make sure that you are in the wrong and he is in the right, and that he gets credit for everything. He'll make himself look good and make everyone around him look bad. He was also very sexists and racist. I'm no SJW but some of the stuff he would say sometimes had even me in shock, that someone would say those things. Like he once said that woman should not be in technology roles. He also knew nothing about technology, he was a pure manager, he knew all the management tactics and that kind of stuff but try to explain that something is technologically not feasible and he'll just tell you to shut up and do it because that's what he's paying you for.

He seemed to have a thing with me as well, probably because I was younger and he felt I was vulnerable. But I didn't take any of his shit, and that just made him escalate more. Though often I had to bite my tongue, knowing that he was still a customer. It was so satisfying leaving that place. He was so furious, because there was nothing he could do. He kept trying to bring me down about my decision and calling me stupid and stuff, but it's the best career decision I ever made.
 

Mayne

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Apr 13, 2014
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just spent the last couple hours with my boss over beers discussing him moving in so I can kick out my nephew and his girlfriend.
 

bbhaag

Diamond Member
Jul 2, 2011
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I'm self employed for the last couple years so not an issue now but I've had some terrible bosses over the years. The worst one was when she made a decision and then changed her mind later. Sometimes it was an hour later sometimes it was a day later but she always second guessed her decisions. So you would end up part way through a project and then have to start over because she changed her mind....really frustrating.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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I've had some awful bosses over the years. But I have been fortunate that the last three or four have been fantastic & really improved how much I enjoyed working at those locations. I'm back to freelance now, so I guess I am my own boss, haha.
Can you top my boss?

I have both seen this position & have had the opportunity to take this position. I did not, partially because I couldn't stand the thought of being an unproductive leech (not trying to sound self-righteous, it's just that I tend to feel a lot better about myself when I actually contribute to society on a regular basis & not just goof off all the time) & partly because my ADHD would kick in & I'd go a little nuts if I didn't have any real problems to solve.

I do have a couple friends in that exact position. One in particular I've seen just go downhill...it's hard to escape the environment you create or that you allow yourself to get into, and he went from a good computer engineer to just kind of being a slacker. Easily makes $120k/year & hardly does anything all day long. Sounds like a dream job, I guess, but it doesn't seem very fulfilling in the long run
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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Healthcare has THE worst software on the planet bar none. Being an IRS agent or used car salesman is a step above anyone who writes medical software.
I'm thinking, hoping, that my HMO (Kaiser Permanente, in northern California) is the exception. I think they've consistently been rated as the best HMO in the area.

KP has its pluses and minuses. The minus, as I see it, is that you have a gatekeeper model. To get to see a specialist you have to get past the "primary care physician." People always say that to succeed as a patient you have to be aggressive with them, work their system. Not everyone is up to the task. I can be but too often I am too distracted or lack the motivation to be pushy enough unless my concern is great.

The plus, however, is that qualified personnel in their system can see your records, have access to your history within their organization. It's all on their servers and the info comes up on their monitors. My sense of it is that the information accessibility across their organization is a bonus. I don't have a deep view of this, obviously.

I know a guy who's been writing software for them for must be close to 20 years. I think he may have moved on recently, not sure, but he was their employee, not a contractor, which is obviously a good idea. I have the notion that he's a pretty talented programmer, deep in 3rd generation languages..
 
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kennyreid95

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There are bad people in leadership positions in every company in the world. I'm interested to hear about yours.

My boss is a 65 year old cattle farmer who used to work in maintenance and, because he soldered a couple of circuit boards together back in the 80s, was deemed fit to be our CIO back in 1996. He has little-to-no understanding how virtualization, storage, network security, or enterprise networking works. Just this week he directed my team to create a way to "program" F1 (the function key), to click the mouse in specific places and enter some canned text into a field so doctors don't have to do it. This came down while we were in the middle of a UCS Firmware upgrade. He calls a meeting every Monday, Thursday, and Friday at 0800 to go over the same shit we talked about in the last meeting, and he is completely irrational. If you challenge his line of thinking, or even suggest that something doesn't work the way he thinks it does, he just gets mad (and red faced) and gives you the silent treatment.

Sigh,

It's Monday, and what a pain in the ass.

Wow that's sad some people are unhappy with their job The system is not fair in Life
 

OutHouse

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Jun 5, 2000
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I quit yesterday due to my boss being a complete dick. not sure i want to get back into IT again. maybe get my CDL and do the OTR thing for a while till i get my hours to get a local gig.
 
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Mai72

Lifer
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My boss is a woman. In fact, they are all women. The one thing I've noticed about women is they nitpick and micro everything

I like what my dad did. He went into business for himself. For much of his life he had no one looking over his shoulder.
 

chin311

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Feb 27, 2003
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Self-employed and hate when people gush about "OMG it must be great to not to have to answer to ANYONE you are a free spirit!!1", uhm no I have a ton of bosses and if I take the attitude of "I take shit from no man" than I could end up making less $$$. Of course there is the exception when you have to free yourself of a client etc because they are truly more trouble than they are worth. Definitely has its pros but the cons do exist.

That being said someday soon I will have to be an employee and it's going to be weird after not having a true "boss" in about 13 years.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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Self-employed and hate when people gush about "OMG it must be great to not to have to answer to ANYONE you are a free spirit!!1", uhm no I have a ton of bosses and if I take the attitude of "I take shit from no man" than I could end up making less $$$. Of course there is the exception when you have to free yourself of a client etc because they are truly more trouble than they are worth. Definitely has its pros but the cons do exist.

That being said someday soon I will have to be an employee and it's going to be weird after not having a true "boss" in about 13 years.

The grass is always greener...

There are many people who would be lousy entrepreneurs. My brother is the perfect example. He works for USPS. Makes $30 an hour. Does the exact same thing day after day. Gets the same check every 2 weeks, and has benefits. Has his little home with his common wife and daughter. There is nothing special about his life, but he's happy. I think he is anyway. Lol.

My parents were entrepreneurs their whole life. My dad was a contractor for the state. He delivered voting machines and the school commodities once a month. Made excellent money. He also sold ice cream on the beach. My mom, when she was alive ran the Cafe in the summer. In the winter she took off.

The downside to being an entrepreneur is its all on you. To save for retirement, to have health care, etc. All on you The best part about being an entrepreneur is you're always pushing yourself, and you learn real world skills. Once you learn what people want, it's much easier to duplicate that and you're more likely to be successful. My dad is retired now, but if he were to open another Cafe he'd be successful because he figured out the system.
 
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Muse

Lifer
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I remember my first job, it was with L.A. County, a summer job and I was about to go off to the U. I was tasked with a big stack of work and I plowed through it like a trooper. I was asked if I was trying to work my way out of a job. I had no reply, I just couldn't see slacking.

I've never wanted to be anyone's boss and at that I have succeeded! The idea of having power over other people scares me. That saying "power corrupts," I've always felt is true.

I've had a lot of bosses, many jobs. Quite a few of those jobs I didn't like at all but I have never quit any. It's uncanny, they just ended one way or another. It's not like I'm a bad employee. I'm honest, hard working, punctual, intelligent, conscientious, ... evidently it's just not my karma to hang around some place indefinitely. While I say that, I've been a volunteer DJ in college radio since 1980, so that's the exception, but it's not like a job, it's more of a calling.

My last full time job I really liked my boss. He was the head of the IT department, just the coolest guy. But he moved on in a few months and there was a succession of replacements, noone near as cool or smart. That job ended too as the company spun out of control of the management, was bought, and they shipped off a lot of the IT to India!
 
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Zeze

Lifer
Mar 4, 2011
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Come to think of it... I don't think I ever had a horrible boss. I've quit because the job itself has sucked...

-In college, I worked as a server. Manager was kind of dick and busy, but it was nothing personal. I did my work.

-My first real corp job out of college... my boss was incompetent, but he liked me. We snuck out to drink beer and watched Korea play worldcup because I was Korean. He's a Brit thug.

-Some other jobs.... my bosses have been okay.

-The hardest job I had was working 70-80/wk at production support. It was a super pressure cooker. People had meltdowns in these management calls. But... it was never personal. I kept my spirits high and they were good to me in private.

-My current boss is also very kind and accommodating despite him going senile (prior post)

Of course I try my hardest to make sure they like me and can trust me/depend on me.
 

snoopy7548

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Jan 1, 2005
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Come to think of it... I don't think I ever had a horrible boss. I've quit because the job itself has sucked...

-In college, I worked as a server. Manager was kind of dick and busy, but it was nothing personal. I did my work.

-My first real corp job out of college... my boss was incompetent, but he liked me. We snuck out to drink beer and watched Korea play worldcup because I was Korean. He's a Brit thug.

-Some other jobs.... my bosses have been okay.

-The hardest job I had was working 70-80/wk at production support. It was a super pressure cooker. People had meltdowns in these management calls. But... it was never personal. I kept my spirits high and they were good to me in private.

-My current boss is also very kind and accommodating despite him going senile (prior post)

Of course I try my hardest to make sure they like me and can trust me/depend on me.

You were Korean? What are you now?

I wish I worked in a place where meltdowns were encouraged. Sometimes I feel like just screaming obscenities during meetings or when I'm working in the lab just to spice things up, but that wouldn't go over so well. Why do people always have to talk to each other in normal voices?
 
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xaeniac

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Feb 4, 2005
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You know what B.O.S.S. stand for don't you?

Big Old Stupid Shit -- Sounds like yours is living up to the acronym.
 

bfun_x1

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May 29, 2015
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The first job I got when I was 16 was at a pizza place. The area manager would visit about once a week to check up on the store. He had the annoying habit of brushing his hand against people's buts as he walked past. He was probably 38 and everyone that worked there was 16 to 17. I was young and stupid and thought it was just accidental but eventually everyone working there got together and confirmed that they guy was doing it to them too. One day we had new guy working and sure enough the manager came by and touched his ass. The guy flipped out and said "why you touching my ass *aggot!". The manager told him he was fired and that he needed to leave immediately. Things changed after that and as far as I know he never touched anyone again in that restaurant. I eventually left and never thought of it again until many years later. It occurred to me then that the guy might have been guilty of some kind of sexual harassment.
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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You know what B.O.S.S. stand for don't you?

Big Old Stupid Shit -- Sounds like yours is living up to the acronym.


A boss is like a diaper...always on your ass...and always full of shit?

BOSS spelled backwards is Double S.O.B.

I've had a LOT of bosses over the years. Some were OK, some sucked, some were out-fucking-standing to work for.

Life sucks, then you die. Make the most of it while you can.
 

clamum

Lifer
Feb 13, 2003
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LOL, sorry to hear that OP. Yeah he sounds like a clueless dipshit in that role. I'd get the f outta there man.

My boss is the manager of my department I guess. We have a Director of Application Development, which us devs and our manager ultimately report to, but I consider my manager as my boss cause we hardly ever interact with the Director (he's a cool old man though. rofl). Anyway, I definitely like my manager. Low key, doesn't ask stupid shit of you, considerate, non-micromanaging, etc. Great dude.
 
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