I hate my job

[Vdubchaos]

You can't judge me based on one post on the mood of one day. Every single person is dynamic. Life is dynamic. If you don't anticipate or expect change, it's a sure way to reduce chances of your ability to survive and thrive.

I can judge you all I want.

You have no clue what surviving or thriving even means.

Are you even sustaining yourself yet? Or are you dependent on your parents?

Come back and talk to me about your survival and thriving once the reality kicks in.

You are 21? For past 2 decades you have done NOTHING. Now you are in the work force for few months and you "hate your job". Yet you try to play it off and be all "positive" and "optimistic".

You have 0 experience or know what life is about.

Give it 10 years.....

 

[Vdubchaos]

It is best just to ignore Vdub. He is of the firm belief that one should have no friends, because he can't make any.

Yea, let's make baseless assumptions aka Alke style.

 

[NekoRinChi]

Chances are high that your job hates you and so do the people.

Also, I've been told by several other techs and lower supervisors that I'm probably one of the best people to be hired and they hope that I continue to work here and thrive. Everyone is on the same boat as me that's on my level. It is upper management that probably doesn't like the way I handle issues, thoroughly, meaning I take less calls than the average techs who generally don't fully resolve issues.

We used to be a small call center based on resolution. Since we were bought out, it's changing into a large scale call center. I can directly see the impact all changes make with the customer. I used to get a lot of happy people who just wanted help. Now significantly more people are angry and the company isn't doing it's part to soften that blow. It just seems like everything is getting worse for the customer, in turn, technical support is the one who has to deal with it.

 

[GrumpyMan]

Whatever son, whatever....taking about generalizing a generation, like what you are doing now with baby boomers? You have a thin skin it seems and will need to toughen up to make in the corporate world that exists currently. Good luck though.

 

[NekoRinChi]

I can judge you all I want.

You have no clue what surviving or thriving even means.

Are you even sustaining yourself yet? Or are you dependent on your parents?

Come back and talk to me about your survival and thriving once the reality kicks in.

You are 21? For past 2 decades you have done NOTHING. Now you are in the work force for few months and you "hate your job". Yet you try to play it off and be all "positive" and "optimistic".

You have 0 experience or know what life is about.

Give it 10 years.....

You're so funny. I live with my SO, I've been with him for 3+ years and we're in a stable relationship.

I have a job that I may not like, but I am able to pay all my bills and have enough excess money to go out and eat, and do whatever I want. I can't be retarded wreckless with it, but it's enough disposable income where I'm more than comfortable.

I have three pets that have very comfortable lives with ample amount of toys and things to do around the house. They also get a lot of attention.

I have an amazing group of friends who enjoy my company and we hang out irl and playing video games.

In reality, you made assumptions and my job is the only aspect of my life that isn't going as well as I want. I wanted to change it, and here is the thread as proof. There are some really great people on here that give genuine advice, and it doesn't seem like you're one of them.

 

[NekoRinChi]

Whatever son, whatever....taking about generalizing a generation, like what you are doing now with baby boomers? You have a thin skin it seems and will need to toughen up to make in the corporate world that exists currently. Good luck though.

If you reread each one of my posts, I haven't said a single thing about your generation, just my own. I can't hope to have the same amount of understanding of your generation as you do, therefore I refrain.

The only things I have said are based on you and your actions alone. I'm not angry or even remotely frustrated. This thread was for two reasons, to help me resolve an ongoing issue, and to provide me amusement. Watching the amount of bickering and everything else on here serves both purposes and reinforces the fact that I know that my life isn't as bad as it could be. I'm sure we're all in different situations, we should take solace in the fact we have the liberty and spare time to be on this board meeting people we wouldn't have otherwise ever met.

 

[Vdubchaos]

Also, I've been told by several other techs and lower supervisors that I'm probably one of the best people to be hired and they hope that I continue to work here and thrive. Everyone is on the same boat as me that's on my level. It is upper management that probably doesn't like the way I handle issues, thoroughly, meaning I take less calls than the average techs who generally don't fully resolve issues.

One thing you need to remember is that most people (especially those you work with) will tell you exactly what you want to hear/be nice.

Don't expect that to be reality.

As for you upper management concerns, expect this EVERYWHERE you go.

We used to be a small call center based on resolution. Since we were bought out, it's changing into a large scale call center. I can directly see the impact all changes make with the customer. I used to get a lot of happy people who just wanted help. Now significantly more people are angry and the company isn't doing it's part to soften that blow. It just seems like everything is getting worse for the customer, in turn, technical support is the one who has to deal with it.

That's what companies do, usually they are too big for their own good....owners/upper management too dis attached to know what is going on....not able to make sound decisions....and mostly focus on bottom line.

Welcome to workforce!!!

 

[Vdubchaos]

You're so funny. I live with my SO, I've been with him for 3+ years and we're in a stable relationship.

I have a job that I may not like, but I am able to pay all my bills and have enough excess money to go out and eat, and do whatever I want. I can't be retarded wreckless with it, but it's enough disposable income where I'm more than comfortable.

I have three pets that have very comfortable lives with ample amount of toys and things to do around the house. They also get a lot of attention.

I have an amazing group of friends who enjoy my company and we hang out irl and playing video games.

In reality, you made assumptions and my job is the only aspect of my life that isn't going as well as I want. I wanted to change it, and here is the thread as proof. There are some really great people on here that give genuine advice, and it doesn't seem like you're one of them.

And whatever happened to "not playing video games" ehh?

You can only change your job, in your position, you are CERTAINLY not changing the place you work for.

It's like drug addict friend, you can't change someone/something that doesn't want changing.



And if you think this crap doesn't go on at just about every place of work, you are in for a shock.

 

[NekoRinChi]

One thing you need to remember is that most people (especially those you work with) will tell you exactly what you want to hear/be nice.

Don't expect that to be reality.

As for you upper management concerns, expect this EVERYWHERE you go.



That's what companies do, usually they are too big for their own good....owners/upper management too dis attached to know what is going on....not able to make sound decisions....and mostly focus on bottom line.

Welcome to workforce!!!

I feel like you forgot the reason for my original post. I don't hope to change anything or even be here for that much longer. This thread was to help me cope and coming here everyday, only to watch people post in this thread and argue, that's enough to get me by during calls or in between.

You're so involved with your argument you're drugging something that isn't even the main topic of this thread. I already knew I had to cope with it, looking for a job to work at for 3 months is hardly practical. However, do please keep posting in this thread :3 Everyone's company is always welcomed.

 

[NekoRinChi]

And whatever happened to "not playing video games" ehh?

You can only change your job, in your position, you are CERTAINLY not changing the place you work for.

It's like drug addict friend, you can't change someone/something that doesn't want changing.



And if you think this crap doesn't go on at just about every place of work, you are in for a shock.

The change would be in my attitude, not the work place itself. You're not reading between the lines good sir :3

I also never say I didn't play video games, just not excessively.

 

[sze5003]

You have three months so tough it out. I felt overwhelmed after college working at a company that was relatively small. But soon people started liking me and respected that I basically ran their whole website. But tech support is different than writing code.

Anyway since you are familiar with sql I would look into taking a few classes part time in database management. If you have the time and can do it, you can get the skills to enable you to move up from that position.

Udemy, and other websites have free courses too. A lot of IT friends who didn't do development with me ended up trying to learn extra things so they can't get stuck doing support.

I have been working in thr industry now for about 5 years or so and each company will have somethhing you won't like. It may not show up at first, but the longer you stay, you will find it.

When it gets to the point where you loathe going in every day, it's time to start looking somewhere else or you won't be happy.

 

[NekoRinChi]

You have three months so tough it out. I felt overwhelmed after college working at a company that was relatively small. But soon people started liking me and respected that I basically ran their whole website. But tech support is different than writing code.

Anyway since you are familiar with sql I would look into taking a few classes part time in database management. If you have the time and can do it, you can get the skills to enable you to move up from that position.

Udemy, and other websites have free courses too. A lot of IT friends who didn't do development with me ended up trying to learn extra things so they can't get stuck doing support.

I have been working in thr industry now for about 5 years or so and each company will have somethhing you won't like. It may not show up at first, but the longer you stay, you will find it.

When it gets to the point where you loathe going in every day, it's time to start looking somewhere else or you won't be happy.

It's more the environment than anything else. The people here are toxic with negativity. I figure, it isn't going to help me any. There are only a handful of people here I genuinely enjoy the company of. Regardless, I do need to tough it out, and I appreciate your two cents :3

With regards to SQL, that's all stuff I can easily learn on my own. My SO makes websites for a living so I usually pick a lot of stuff up from him. The goal for the future is to find a job that is at minimum, tolerable.

The most suckish part thing about this job is that I was here right before the change. I experienced how it was for 1 month, then the changes started rolling in. I'm sure if I was hired in the middle of the process, I wouldn't have noticed it as much. However, it's all about perception. I'm sure these next three months won't be too horrible. :]

 

[smackababy]

Anyway since you are familiar with sql I would look into taking a few classes part time in database management. If you have the time and can do it, you can get the skills to enable you to move up from that position. .

Don't do it! DBAs are some of the most unhappy people ever. You will also develop a hate for Oracle that you've never known could exist in your heart!

 

[sze5003]

Don't do it! DBAs are some of the most unhappy people ever. You will also develop a hate for Oracle that you've never known could exist in your heart!

They also make good money. Our dba do a couple days of work and then sit around. Data if designed correctly won't break much as long as it's done right. It's the middle tier and ui code that screws things up.

But yea as a dba you will be busy, on call, have a lot of responsibility, make good money , but yea you also may be overwhelmed too. Our stuff uses cobol and db2 ugh..so I would hate doing data for my company.

 

[NekoRinChi]

They also make good money. Our dba do a couple days of work and then sit around. Data if designed correctly won't break much as long as it's done right. It's the middle tier and ui code that screws things up.

But yea as a dba you will be busy, on call, have a lot of responsibility, make good money , but yea you also may be overwhelmed too. Our stuff uses cobol and db2 ugh..so I would hate doing data for my company.

The thing is tech stuff in general comes naturally to me. I was one of the quickest to pick up on all the stuff I've learned at my current job, which was a lot more than I expected. It really is amazing to look back at the curve of understanding and realize that there were a bunch of concepts I didn't understand before this job.

Even those the IT field is the direction I'm moving, and seems to be the easiest to learn I'm not sure that this career path will really bring me happiness. It's one of those things where if you understand it, it feels like everyone else is dumb. I'm trying to find a plausible career path that will bring me happiness. I don't have to make amazing money. Every other aspect of my life is as great as I can hope for, I don't really need to be rich, just make a liveable wage.

 

[sze5003]

The thing is tech stuff in general comes naturally to me. I was one of the quickest to pick up on all the stuff I've learned at my current job, which was a lot more than I expected. It really is amazing to look back at the curve of understanding and realize that there were a bunch of concepts I didn't understand before this job.

Even those the IT field is the direction I'm moving, and seems to be the easiest to learn I'm not sure that this career path will really bring me happiness. It's one of those things where if you understand it, it feels like everyone else is dumb. I'm trying to find a plausible career path that will bring me happiness. I don't have to make amazing money. Every other aspect of my life is as great as I can hope for, I don't really need to be rich, just make a liveable wage.

Well you have to find what you enjoy doing. I enjoy analyzing and designing code for an application. To me it's interesting. I don't enjoy how we are forced to do it at my company, but that is how they want it done. The little bonuses and healthcare package, 401k, etc keep me here, plus the people are great at least most of them.

I may not like what I'm developing or understanding it all but I do it because it's what I know how to do. If you asked me to do tech support I wouldn't be interested. It's not an interesting subject at all which I can see why you don't really like it..not many people do.

You do what you know, but it doesn't always mean you will always like it. I suggest just thinking about what would be your ideal job and then take steps towards that.

If you feel IT stuff comes easy then you need to learn more advanced topics if you are interested of course.

Even in development I may only like designing or working on certain things I'm good at but, things I do outside of work for fun, but I've learned that you can't always find a job where you are working on something that is exactly like what you may have interest in.

 

[purbeast0]

It is best just to ignore Vdub. He is of the firm belief that one should have no friends, because he can't make any.




Also, I actually hate my job today. Not so much the work, or the people, but I hate eclipse... It vexes me to no end this entire day and is causing me to get zero work done.

i refuse to use eclipse. it's the worst piece of shit ide i've ever used. and then top that with android development, which is the worse platform to develop for, it is nothing but frustration. but i use netbeans for android dev now. at work everyone used to use eclipse until i introduced people to intellij. best ide by far imo.

 

[purbeast0]

and OP simply ignore vdub for advice on life. he lives in some delusional world where the only right way to do things is his way. trust me you will thank me later if you just ignore/avoid paying attention to anything he posts.

 

[NekoRinChi]

Well you have to find what you enjoy doing. I enjoy analyzing and designing code for an application. To me it's interesting. I don't enjoy how we are forced to do it at my company, but that is how they want it done. The little bonuses and healthcare package, 401k, etc keep me here, plus the people are great at least most of them.

I may not like what I'm developing or understanding it all but I do it because it's what I know how to do. If you asked me to do tech support I wouldn't be interested. It's not an interesting subject at all which I can see why you don't really like it..not many people do.

You do what you know, but it doesn't always mean you will always like it. I suggest just thinking about what would be your ideal job and then take steps towards that.

If you feel IT stuff comes easy then you need to learn more advanced topics if you are interested of course.

The main reason why I don't like IT is because of what I said earlier. If you understand a concept, it makes you feel like everyone else is dumb.

Since I work at a time an attendance company, I've encountered hundreds of people who can't add time. They'll format their time in HH:MM instead of decimals, then add them like they were decimals. WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU CONVERT. HH:MM IS NOT OUT OF 100.

^That is my most frustrating call out of all the calls I've ever taken, and there are a lot of calls that are like that. It's scary to think that someone handling an entire company's paychecks lacks the ability to add.

Anyways, my point being, unless you're doing something like building a website, and your boss is just paying you to get it done, I feel like IT is going to be riddled with explaining concepts to people. I just don't have the patients for that X3 You always have to cater to the lowest common denominator.

I can understand if more advanced work is different than that. Honestly though, I haven't been in the workforce long enough to experience that. If anyone has any input please gib me details/opinions/discussions what have you.

 

[NekoRinChi]

and OP simply ignore vdub for advice on life. he lives in some delusional world where the only right way to do things is his way. trust me you will thank me later if you just ignore/avoid paying attention to anything he posts.

I can understand where you're coming from, but he's a person too :3 Besides, his arguments in this thread have brought me nothing but amusement to read. I will take your advice into consideration and not take anything he says personally, but this is far to funny to ignore

 

[Vdubchaos]

I can understand where you're coming from, but he's a person too :3 Besides, his arguments in this thread have brought me nothing but amusement to read. I will take your advice into consideration and not take anything he says personally, but this is far to funny to ignore

Neko, take Purbeast's advice seriously. Guy is a genius and a perfect human being that knows everything there is to know.

I mean just look at his name PURBEAST!!!

He knows it too!!!

 

[purbeast0]

I can understand where you're coming from, but he's a person too :3 Besides, his arguments in this thread have brought me nothing but amusement to read. I will take your advice into consideration and not take anything he says personally, but this is far to funny to ignore

oh i don't mean put him on ignore or anything, i just mean to ignore the advice lol. he definitely makes for some very LOL worthy posts on here.

 

[smackababy]

i refuse to use eclipse. it's the worst piece of shit ide i've ever used. and then top that with android development, which is the worse platform to develop for, it is nothing but frustration. but i use netbeans for android dev now. at work everyone used to use eclipse until i introduced people to intellij. best ide by far imo.

The only reason I stick with it is because of experience (having spent the last 4 years before this current job using RAD, which is built on top of eclipse and costs a fortune) and because years ago eclipse was the only IDE compatable with WebSphere Application Servers that was free. I have been debating looking elsewhere, but just haven't been fed up enough to actually do it yet.

 

[sze5003]

The main reason why I don't like IT is because of what I said earlier. If you understand a concept, it makes you feel like everyone else is dumb.

Since I work at a time an attendance company, I've encountered hundreds of people who can't add time. They'll format their time in HH:MM instead of decimals, then add them like they were decimals. WHY THE FUCK DON'T YOU CONVERT. HH:MM IS NOT OUT OF 100.

^That is my most frustrating call out of all the calls I've ever taken, and there are a lot of calls that are like that. It's scary to think that someone handling an entire company's paychecks lacks the ability to add.

Anyways, my point being, unless you're doing something like building a website, and your boss is just paying you to get it done, I feel like IT is going to be riddled with explaining concepts to people. I just don't have the patients for that X3 You always have to cater to the lowest common denominator.

I can understand if more advanced work is different than that. Honestly though, I haven't been in the workforce long enough to experience that. If anyone has any input please gib me details/opinions/discussions what have you.

There is a ton more to IT that will not make it seem like everyone else is dumb because you know it. Networking, security, development, so many concepts that are to be explored.

I recommend roughing it out until you move, get a job for a year then get another. Each with a different section if you can. Once you move past the low level stuff, it will be much more interesting. Job hopping is the best way to gain experience sometimes.

 

[NekoRinChi]

The only reason I stick with it is because of experience (having spent the last 4 years before this current job using RAD, which is built on top of eclipse and costs a fortune) and because years ago eclipse was the only IDE compatable with WebSphere Application Servers that was free. I have been debating looking elsewhere, but just haven't been fed up enough to actually do it yet.

You sound like you're in the same boat as me. We need a nice dosage of motivation and ambition my friend.