I Hate My Kid

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NinjaGnome

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yeah i dont have much exp. as a parent (since im only 17) but i have learned a lot that from the way my dad has treated me. My dad has never given me anything unless ive worked my ass off for it. I get an allowance only if I do something. I have never been given anything i havent earned and have learned that you should always hope for the best but expect the worst. The only unfair thing my dad has ever done was take away my car from me for almost a year for wrecking it. Even though I paid for the damages 2 months after the accident. For girls though i see a different thing happen. Most girls i know get anything they want from their parents and whine too much. I think that you shouldnt give your daughter anything anymore until she is ready to be a functioning caring individual. I have a sister who is her age and is way worse then she is. She does nothing around the house has been to jail before and makes my parents feel horrible.
 

Balthazar

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Originally posted by: aves2k
Somebody PM when the Cliff Notes come out.


Seriously though, that sounds about like the typical teenager.

Oh nice!

As for the topic at hand....jesus I didn't make it very far through. First off, what the hell is wrong with you, how long have you been a parent, 2 weeks?

Couple of basic rules.
1) Your the adult, act like it, show some spine and dont go around posting "I hate my kid" crap.
2) Are you just now realizing that the behaviour in question is common amongst children. Growing up, as if I really need to say this, is a maturing process....jesus I can't believe I actually have to tell you waht "growing up" is....children are suposed to be immature, thats....jesus.....the whole point....

My god man, I'm going to go smack someone after reading this post.
 

josphII

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good read. mary kinda reminds me of my brother, as far as the world oweing him/her everything. my brother is 26 and still lives at home with mommy, you probably didnt want to hear that!
 

Deeko

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Carbo,
Perhaps look at it from this perspective. Not all kids consider money to be an all-telling reason as to if you have good parents. Yea, you paid for the trip, and give her money for shopping and all, but maybe that isn't as important to her. Two nights in a row you denied her from staying over at a friends, that would aggrivate me if I were her. I mean, yea you want to see her since she just got back from the trip, but what good is seeing her if you are just gonna be pissed at each other? I don't know how your attitude towards her is, but personally, the best parents only give minimal money, forcing the kid to get a job and learn responsibility, and let them be more free with their friends. Yea, you should make her do housework, but do not lump it on her at the last second like you did for Sunday. Her friends are waiting for her, don't say oh you have to clean all this stuff first, tell her that she has to clean EARLIER, or make her do it when she gets back, but don't make her friends wait, that's just plain rude to both her and her friends. And I don't recall you talking about this, but don't spend your time snapping at her for not doing housework, be more like encouraging and friendly...I dunno I don't know the full story, just giving you a teenager's perspective.
 

Deeko

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Just for clarification, she probably would be upset if you stopped giving her money, I don't mean that, what I mean is that just because you give her money doesn't mean she should love you with all her heart and want to do nothing but make you happy.
 

Carbo

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Deeko, I appreciate your perspective and realize it is coming from someone around my daughter's age who is genuinely offering a sincere opinion. But, I need to reply..........
First, the money and the shopping are important to Mary. As it is to all of her spoiled bastard friends. Image is everything with this crowd. Thirteen years young and strutting around with an abortion to your credit, a cell phone and pager courtesy of mommy and daddy, a tattoo on your ass and a pierced naval. Yeah, right, the money ain't everything.
"The best parents give minimal money and force the kid to get a job and learn responsibility". Surely, you jest. Ask the kid of the parent who does that if he or she thinks dear ol' dad is "the best".
The housework was not "lumped" on her to put a crimp in her important social schedule. These were a few simple chores that had not been done yet from the previous week, month, years..........
Like I already said, Deeko, I appreciate your perspective but general theories won't work with this one. I'm thinking boot camp........
 

Deeko

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Well, like I said in my follow-up, yea they want money, but just because they give you money doesn't mean they have to like you. You still have to earn their respect, like anyone else. And I do think the best parents give minimal money...that doesn't mean NO money, but minimal...my parents hardly gave me any money my entire life, they haven't bought me clothes in 4 years, and back when they did, they spent a very limited amount. All I get is $10 a week for my lunch. Its been that way ever since I was old enough to get a job, and I did, I applied at McDonald's 2 days after I turned 14. Its not that my parents couldn't afford to give me money, they just didn't, and frankly I've learned alot of repsonsibility, and I own alot more stuff than kids that don't work and mooch off their parents, even wealthier ones(I don't see many kids at my school with Ericsson T68 cell phones or Infinity IL40 home theater speakers). Not all kids agree with me, but hey, that's my opinion. And I don't think you put the chores on just to stop her from going out, you just wanted it done, and IMO said it had to be done at the wrong time. But again, these are just my general theories, I don't live with this kid so I don't know what she is really like.
 

handoverfist

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Man, no offense but this girl needs a bish slap. I'm almost 21, and my parents never let me get away with that sort of stuff when I was that age. I still live at home, and my parents make me do everything. I can't blame em though... Kids nowadays
 

simms

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School the kid. She's out of control...I'm 17, but that's completely unheard of for me. I'd be kicked out..or something.

Simon
 

HiveMaster

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It is amazing how everyone becomes a freaking new age feel good hippie type when they are faced with the fact that, as parents, they are the leading factor in how their kids turn out. You can try to insult me all you want but that does not change the truth of what I said.
A lot of people are talking about how Carbo has to get the kid to shape up...and I say that Carbo has to shape up. So kill me for being the bad guy.

It is obvious that so many of you have no idea what parenting is all about--the whole "I blame society for the way my kid turned out" bs can only work in cases of extreme poverty or extreme neglect.

If YOU and your wife are not the dominant factors in how your kids grow up, who is???

You either take charge, do the best you can, and get help if you need it...or you give up responsibility and you let the school, the streets, or television/popular culture raise your kids.

You can throw insults all you want, but that does not change the facts. I happen to be a parent...I am involved with my kids, and they have turned out rather well.

My 14 year old daughter does not throw tantrums when she does not get her way. She gives me a hug every day when I drop her off at school and tells me she loves me, and the last thing she sees every night is my smiling face telling her to have sweet dreams. My 11 year old daughter is on the A/B honor roll at school, plays piano, does dance recitals, and has never given me a day of grief.

Why? Because I do not indulge their every need, I do not cater to their every whim, and I do not try to be their pal, their friend, or their apologist. I am their dad, and I love them with all my heart. I take responsibility for my parenting and I make sure they take responsibility for the things they do as kids.

These are books that I recommend to anyone with daughters. I read them and try to live by the words within them:
For all you people who parent by the seat of your pants...read this.

I also have many of the books by this author at home, I recommend you start with this one:

Time to take charge of your kids and your parenting power.

Oh, and if you have kids that give you grief, please think twice about pissing on my parenting advice.

Edit: Just an FYI, both of these books will tell you that as the parent, you are primarily responsible for how your kid turns out...if you cannot handle the truth don't buy the books. The authors of the books are just a lot less blunt than I.
 

UltraQuiet

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LOL. OK people you have your marching orders. Hidemaster has spoken. Turn to. Buy the books. Get with the program. The definitive answer to parenting has been given. Everything else is bullsh!t.
 

skace

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Don't expect many replies back to that one HiveMaster, people love to make excuses and your pinning it on parenting (perhaps too soap-boxish) struck a sore spot.

The fact is, in a bad parenting situation either the kid or the parent can make the difference. The parent can one day wake up and say "instead of calling my kid a devil and hating his/her existence, why not try to help them with some sincerity". Or the kid can one day wake up and say "I don't need anybody and shouldn't blaim my problems on anyone, I will do this no matter what". Both take an extra ammount of effort - extra effort goes against lazyness - lazyness is so easy.

Yea and you can say "but I did try helping him/her", to which I would respond, "try harder". Re-evaluate your attempt and take another approach.

And yes, I would expect a father to have more maturity than the kid who posted the topic "I hate my dad". [note: I have read every page of this (I posted earlier) and missed the Skoorb effect. Perhaps only Skoorb does it so well.]
 

PlatinumGold

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I didn't read the whole thread, but. STFU all you idiots trying to give advice.

you know very little about the situation, you only know a little about a specific incident. for you to assume you know more than carbo is just RETARDED.

His point isn't that he doesn't know how to raise children. His point is that it is hard to be a PARENT TOO.

No matter HOW WELL YOU RAISE YOUR CHILDREN they can still end up doing bad things. That's just a fact. the fact that many of you are blaming mary's actions on carbo just shows that you don't think kids should be held responsible for their actions and that parents are the only responsible party (entitlement complex anyone?).

Carbo, I got three kids myself, my oldest is only 5 so i'm not there yet, but i'm not looking forward to the teenage years (well i kinda am but i know it'll be rough).
 

narzy

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seems to me you got some problems...controlling your kid...perhaps the old strip out her room, take away her phone and leave her with sheets on the bed I nail in the window (so it won't open) a lock on the outside of her door to keep her in at night and a daily despensed of clean cloths picked out by you, that has escaped all modern fashion. hell if she's gonna act like a bitch, best dress her like one right?

it worked for me. it can work for her too.


cold.pissed.naked.narzy.
 

Bozo Galora

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<<First, the money and the shopping are important to Mary. As it is to all of her spoiled bastard friends. Image is everything with this crowd. Thirteen years young and strutting around with an abortion to your credit, a cell phone and pager courtesy of mommy and daddy, a tattoo on your ass and a pierced naval. Yeah, right, the money ain't everything.>>

An abortion at 13!!! :Q

Are you talking about your daughter?????
 

Corn

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My 14 year old daughter does not throw tantrums when she does not get her way. She gives me a hug every day when I drop her off at school and tells me she loves me, and the last thing she sees every night is my smiling face telling her to have sweet dreams. My 11 year old daughter is on the A/B honor roll at school, plays piano, does dance recitals, and has never given me a day of grief.

Sounds like leave it to beaver at the Hive nest. Of course it's all a lie, but it makes him feel superior, so lets go ahead and live in his pretend world and stare in awe with mouths agape at how perfect ButtMaster and is children are...........



Just an FYI, both of these books will tell you that as the parent, you are primarily responsible for how your kid turns out...if you cannot handle the truth don't buy the books.

You're an idiot ButtMaster, at 13 years old, it's a little early to judge how a child has "turned out". You're full of sh1t, but hey, it's a message board on the net............
 

Carbo

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Are you talking about your daughter?????
No, Bozo, but one of her trash friends has that distinction.
Sounds like leave it to beaver at the Hive nest. Of course it's all a lie, but it makes him feel superior, so lets go ahead and live in his pretend world and stare in awe with mouths agape at how perfect ButtMaster and is children are...........
Corn, that's a riot! Funny stuff! Yeah, HiveDad is the poster boy for Perfect Parenting Magazine.
 

jamison

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Tell lil' Mary that she should be lucky to have such a responsible father. I am 17 and have not seen my dad since I was 9 or 10. That includes not speaking to him or even being in the same state.
 

PlatinumGold

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Tell lil' Mary that she should be lucky to have such a responsible father. I am 17 and have not seen my dad since I was 9 or 10. That includes not speaking to him or even being in the same state.

someone who gets the point of this thread.
 

Carbo

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Tell lil' Mary that she should be lucky to have such a responsible father. I am 17 and have not seen my dad since I was 9 or 10. That includes not speaking to him or even being in the same state.
someone who gets the point of this thread.
jamison and PlatinumGold: back to back home runs!
 
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