i hate to admit it but Papa John's does have better ingredients,

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Mai72

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pretzel is a carb, corn is a carb (it's about 95% carbs by weight), the pizza crust is a carb, the corn syrup the fruit is packed in is a carb, and the chocolate milk is crammed full of sugar so more carbs.

no wonder kids are fat.
Then they get home and eat chips and drink 2 liter bottles of Coke, while they game on their Xbox/PlayStation.

Then mom brings home pizza or fried chicken and the kids never get the chance to eat well.
 

Leyawiin

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I've always found that Papa John's has the most boring flavor of any national pizza chain.

It's not bad, but it's not good either. Since it's priced more than premium pan pizza from Pizza Hut and Domino's, I'm not giving my money to PJ's.

Exactly. If I have to order from a chain its Round Table (West Coast) or nothing.
 
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pretzel is a carb, corn is a carb (it's about 95% carbs by weight), the pizza crust is a carb, the corn syrup the fruit is packed in is a carb, and the chocolate milk is crammed full of sugar so more carbs.

no wonder kids are fat.

I notice you don't mention the fact that the fruit itself also contains tons of carbs.
 

rh71

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I'm convinced it varies by region because of water, etc. How else can people's opinions of the various chains differ so much?

Pizza Hut is terrible now after they changed their recipe over a decade ago. Papa Johns is easily the best chain here. And I'm coming from a lot of good choices for local places - PJ is not that bad. As a matter of fact, neither is Trader Joe's frozen.
 

BoberFett

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Better pizza. I think they are the best of the big chain pizza

False.

Papa John's started out really well, but it's one of the worst pizza chains now. Only Little Caesars is worse.

Papa Murphy's actually makes the best chain pizzas these days, and you can get a much bigger pizza with more toppings for about the same price if you don't mind baking it yourself.
 

Remobz

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False.

Papa John's started out really well, but it's one of the worst pizza chains now. Only Little Caesars is worse.

Papa Murphy's actually makes the best chain pizzas these days, and you can get a much bigger pizza with more toppings for about the same price if you don't mind baking it yourself.

I thought Pizza Hut went downhill as well? But not as bad as papa John's then?
 

Red Storm

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Oct 2, 2005
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Out of the big three I prefer Papa John's. Also thanks to the Wizards and Capitals being decent teams we get 50% off quite often.

I would take Ledo's pizza over them though, it's just more expensive.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I can't eat Pizza Hut. It's like the brush butter all over their pan crust. Of the fast food pizza chains I like Papa John's by far over the others.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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False.

Papa John's started out really well, but it's one of the worst pizza chains now. Only Little Caesars is worse.

Papa Murphy's actually makes the best chain pizzas these days, and you can get a much bigger pizza with more toppings for about the same price if you don't mind baking it yourself.

I like Papa Murphys too, but the only one close to here closed a couple years back. Not enough people were into the take n bake thing I guess.
 

gorcorps

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Jul 18, 2004
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I thought Pizza Hut went downhill as well? But not as bad as papa John's then?

Pizza hut sucks, at least mine does. I remember it being a lot better in my youth, but now it seems smaller and it's so freaking greasy it's not even appetizing. Pizza Hut is definitely at the bottom of my list around here.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Ah, give me soggy ole school pizza any day of the week.

What a delicious lunch. You have your fruit, veggies, sh*t for pizza, and carbs.


Blech! In Texas they would stick the lowest grade super greasy orange beef, like Taco Bell bad, under the cheese of those horrible slices. I can't ever recall a meal I had worse than that, and they served that garbage once a week at my school.
 

thraashman

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Apr 10, 2000
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If you consider there to be only the big 3, then Papa John's is the best.
Of all nationwide chains, I think Mellow Mushroom is the best, but it doesn't appear to be as nationwide as I thought.
A Marco's opened around the corner from me a few years ago and it has become my go to place nearby.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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Bad pizza, worse politics.

I changed my mind. Papa John's is the best, if for no other reason than it pisses Craig off.

I will order a PJ pizza for dinner ever night this week and hope that Papa John himself sacrifices a puppy in the name of unholy capitalism.
 

JamesV

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I worked as a manager for Pizza Hut, Papa Johns, and Little Caesars back in the 90's (600/week was pretty good back then).

Of all of them, ONLY Pizza Hut and one Papa Johns (that I worked at) is still open.

Little Caesars got run into the ground by bad management. The district manager hired his cousin to be my assistant, and he'd show up 10% of the time. Then after fixing one store (food and labor cost perfect, smooth running)... they sent me to the worst ghetto store imaginable where nobody showed up for work on my first day. I had it with them at that point; no help at all from district, and they refused $100/week raise to fix that shithole - screw them, went to Papa Johns.

Papa Johns had great middle/district management, but they just couldn't seem to hire anyone that gave a damn under management level. The one a mile from my house just closed (hour wait for your Pizza on a Tuesday, 3 hours on a Friday - not exaggerating). PJ's has gone to hell around here; if you get a pizza that isn't half giant bread bubbles, you got lucky.

Pizza Hut; still all of them open, but near the worst in pay scale for management.

From my extensive experience with them, I'd say the majority like Pizza Hut, but it probably has more to do with horribly run franchises than strictly taste.
 

BoberFett

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Oct 9, 1999
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1 - Rocky Roccoco, which you may have not had yet.
2 - Godfathers
3- Papa Johns


After that it goes downhill quickly.
Little Caesars used to be good way back in the big square pan days. Not so much now.

Rocky Roccoco is great. Is Godfathers around here anymore?

The Twin Cities has some great local pizza places. Broadway, Leaning Tower, Punch, Pizza Luce, and I just discovered Mesa Pizza in Uptown.
 

norseamd

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Yes Godfathers is still around.

Broadway and Punch are good.

You have had Cossettas am I right BoberFett?
 

slag

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Then they get home and eat chips and drink 2 liter bottles of Coke, while they game on their Xbox/PlayStation.

Then mom brings home pizza or fried chicken and the kids never get the chance to eat well.

I don't know a single kid who does this. I think you're just making stuff up.
 

natto fire

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If you consider there to be only the big 3, then Papa John's is the best.
Of all nationwide chains, I think Mellow Mushroom is the best, but it doesn't appear to be as nationwide as I thought.
A Marco's opened around the corner from me a few years ago and it has become my go to place nearby.

Around here, there are a few chains that aren't nationwide, but all make better pizzas than Dominoes, Papa John, and Little Ceasers. Donatos makes an excellent supreme and Hawaiian. Jets just has all around good pies, and Iaconos has my favorite crust. For one-off joints we have Natalies, and Amatos which are big in the artisan crusts and baking methods.
 

KeithTalent

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I've always wanted to try Papa John's, but they don't have it up here. Though I have to say taking a pizza home to bake seems kind of weird, why not just keep frozen pizzas on hand at that point or go to a place that cooks it for you.

KT
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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I've always wanted to try Papa John's, but they don't have it up here. Though I have to say taking a pizza home to bake seems kind of weird, why not just keep frozen pizzas on hand at that point or go to a place that cooks it for you.

KT

Papa John's is baked in-store.

Papa Murphy's you bake yourself. Pizza is so incredibly easy to actually bake, it's a great idea. They don't have to charge customers for maintaining a bunch of expensive equipment, delivering hot pizza, etc. You just get a huge pizza with a ton of quality ingredients (IMO) for a decent price. I love making pizza at home, but it is a fair amount of work, and I never make home-made dough, end up using a store pizza crust anyway.
 

norseamd

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Papa Murphys is good quality although somewhat of a basic homemade like taste but still good and you get a lot for how much you actually pay. The Chicago stuffed is very good especially when you order sun dried tomatoes and spinach up on top.
 

Childs

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Papa John's is baked in-store.

Papa Murphy's you bake yourself. Pizza is so incredibly easy to actually bake, it's a great idea. They don't have to charge customers for maintaining a bunch of expensive equipment, delivering hot pizza, etc. You just get a huge pizza with a ton of quality ingredients (IMO) for a decent price. I love making pizza at home, but it is a fair amount of work, and I never make home-made dough, end up using a store pizza crust anyway.

Heh...I went into Papa Murphy's and demanded a giant chocolate chip cookie for $5. The lady looked at me like I was crazy. Went home annoyed that they didn't honor their advertisements, then went online to see if the offer expired. Turns out it was for Papa Johns.
 
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