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blackangst1

Lifer
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Its certainly not a crisis that is solved by a wall that would take years to build but I'm sure a stupid fuck like you didn't think of that.
I made no comments about a wall so no idea wtf you're talking about. Stop projecting.
 

JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
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I made no comments on the wall so idk what the fuck youre talking about. Also, youre fucking mincing words. A humanitarian crisis is a crisis dumbass.
Actually your the idiot! You post a "gotcha" article. In that context you misrepresent what the Dems were saying because it suits your agenda!
You gleefully hope that those of us who can read and comprehend would say -- Damn and article where the Dems agree with the republicans!!
That is way to funny -- Plus and this is in the article -- Democratic governors across the U.S. also contended that there was no crisis, and their positions on the issue resulted in less manpower at the U.S.-Mexico border. Three Democratic governors — Gavin Newsom of California, Tony Evers of Wisconsin, and Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico — pulled their state’s National Guard troops from the border.

“There is simply not ample evidence to support the president’s contention that there exists a national security crisis at our southwestern border,” Evers stated in February. “Therefore, there is no justification for the ongoing presence of Wisconsin National Guard personnel at the border.”


However, as thousands of illegal aliens have continued to reach the U.S. border every month, pushing immigration facilities past their breaking point, Democrats have begun changing their tune. April marked the second consecutive month where encounters at the southern border topped 100,000 and Border Patrol apprehension numbers have risen every month this year.


Pelosi said during the Thursday press conference it was necessary for the GOP and Democrats to reach a consensus on immigration reform.


“We have to, I believe, come to comprehensive immigration reform,” she continued. “We have to do it in a way that secures our borders, has a path to citizenship, respects the value of family to us.”
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Actually your the idiot! You post a "gotcha" article. In that context you misrepresent what the Dems were saying because it suits your agenda!
You gleefully hope that those of us who can read and comprehend would say -- Damn and article where the Dems agree with the republicans!!
That is way to funny -- Plus and this is in the article -- Democratic governors across the U.S. also contended that there was no crisis, and their positions on the issue resulted in less manpower at the U.S.-Mexico border. Three Democratic governors — Gavin Newsom of California, Tony Evers of Wisconsin, and Michelle Lujan Grisham of New Mexico — pulled their state’s National Guard troops from the border.

“There is simply not ample evidence to support the president’s contention that there exists a national security crisis at our southwestern border,” Evers stated in February. “Therefore, there is no justification for the ongoing presence of Wisconsin National Guard personnel at the border.”


However, as thousands of illegal aliens have continued to reach the U.S. border every month, pushing immigration facilities past their breaking point, Democrats have begun changing their tune. April marked the second consecutive month where encounters at the southern border topped 100,000 and Border Patrol apprehension numbers have risen every month this year.


Pelosi said during the Thursday press conference it was necessary for the GOP and Democrats to reach a consensus on immigration reform.


“We have to, I believe, come to comprehensive immigration reform,” she continued. “We have to do it in a way that secures our borders, has a path to citizenship, respects the value of family to us.”
That the point moron. There left and even some on the right said there's no crisis and NOW their all well, we didn't say there wasn't a crisis, because there is. And then pinheads here think a humanitarian crisis is different than a crisis.

Lmao


Keep those plates spinning soon you're doing an exceptional job!
 

Pohemi

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By the left you're right! What have i deflected on?

Your supplied evidence doesn't state what you are trying to twist it to say, so you just move the goalposts a bit. And then move them again. And again... you're boring and not even worth engaging. Who is spinning plates? lol
 

blackangst1

Lifer
Feb 23, 2005
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Your supplied evidence doesn't state what you are trying to twist it to say, so you just move the goalposts a bit. And then move them again. And again... you're boring and not even worth engaging. Who is spinning plates? lol
Excuse me? My point was the Democrats now realize and even admit made us crisis wasn't the right wording, and admit there is a crisis. The article and quotes show that.

Did you reply to the right thread or are you being the idiot you truly are?
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
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Seems to rival Nazi concentration camps and smacks of genocide.
Shame on all you making Nazi comparisons.

Did hundreds / thousands of Jewish people scramble to get into Nazi Germany's concentration camps while Germany tried to keep them out? It's a stupid comparison. Just stupid.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Shame on all you making Nazi comparisons.

Did hundreds / thousands of Jewish people scramble to get into Nazi Germany's concentration camps while Germany tried to keep them out? It's a stupid comparison. Just stupid.

I don't think anyone desires being in our concentration camps either.
 

Ichinisan

Lifer
Oct 9, 2002
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I don't think anyone desires being in our concentration camps either.
Are we killing them en masse? See I thought we were giving them a chance to apply for asylum, or releasing them into the country after a couple weeks if we can't do the hearing and administrative stuff in time. Same thing, right? Right?

Stop it.

Shame on you.
 

Muse

Lifer
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@Ichinsan I said it smacks of genocide, not that it is genocide. The Nazis were world class racist-killers, no question. Now my saying that the conditions rivaled the Nazi concentration camps isn't a totally left field comparison. The Nazis didn't just out and out kill everyone they interned in their camps. In many they did, of course. People were kept in the camps in inhuman conditions, many to die of disease or starvation. Anyway, my point was that they were confined in terrible conditions, and some of that is evidently going on now with those being rounded up and confined by the Trump administration. I get that in reading the OP. My suggestion is that some of what's going on now should not be considered as something completely other than what the Nazis did. To do that is reprehensible, unconscionable.

 
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Viper1j

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Shame on all you making Nazi comparisons.

Did hundreds / thousands of Jewish people scramble to get into Nazi Germany's concentration camps while Germany tried to keep them out? It's a stupid comparison. Just stupid.

No, they were already there. But everything else is a perfect fit.

Six million Jews died in the Holocaust. Right now Trump's body count is only (only..) 48 with 7 children. So tell me Sparky, how much is enough.. before you start to give a shit? Does he really have to get to 6 million? 3 million? How about 300k? Give us a magic number.



Are we killing them en masse? See I thought we were giving them a chance to apply for asylum, or releasing them into the country after a couple weeks if we can't do the hearing and administrative stuff in time. Same thing, right? Right?

Stop it.

Shame on you.

Not yet.. The ovens are on back-order.
 
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brycejones

Lifer
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Are we killing them en masse? See I thought we were giving them a chance to apply for asylum, or releasing them into the country after a couple weeks if we can't do the hearing and administrative stuff in time. Same thing, right? Right?

Stop it.

Shame on you.

Zzzzzzzzz
 

CZroe

Lifer
Jun 24, 2001
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@Ichinsan I said it smacks of genocide, not that it is genocide. The Nazis were world class racist-killers, no question. Now my saying that the conditions rivaled the Nazi concentration camps isn't a totally left field comparison. The Nazis didn't just out and out kill everyone they interned in their camps. In many they did, of course. People were kept in the camps in inhuman conditions, many to die of disease or starvation. Anyway, my point was that they were confined in terrible conditions, and some of that is evidently going on now with those being rounded up and confined by the Trump administration. I get that in reading the OP. My suggestion is that some of what's going on now should not be considered as something completely other than what the Nazis did. To do that is reprehensible, unconscionable.

Oh. “Smacks of genocide.” You totally saved face there. :roll eyes:

No, it doesn’t.

Last I checked, the Jews weren’t flocking en masse to enter Germany/Poland to line up for concentration camps or genocide like immigrants are lining up for our detention facilities.

Seriously.

...”facilities” that they generally sail right through in a few weeks without consequence before getting exactly what they want (turned loose on the north side of the border).

These people aren’t just undeterred by the genocidal concentration camps detention facilities... they are coming here with the intent of passing through them... even lining up to get in. If that doesn’t tell you that there’s a major gulf between reality and your attempts to mischaracterize it, what will?

I’m all for immigration, amnesty, free market labor, and all that, but this kind of dishonestly and hyperbolic BS is why people reacted so negatively to AOC’s tweet. The “Nazi” shtick is getting pretty old. Just thinking about that comparison should make you self-conscious about it after the “Everyone I don’t like/disagree with is Hitler” meme. The instant such a comparison enters your mind should be the same moment you second-guess making that comparison. The backfire is about as reliable as Old’s Law.
 
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Muse

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I will not apologize for (or be ashamed about) remembering the holocaust or being reminded of it when I encounter inhumane treatments by today's governments.

 
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Muse

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OMG, the asshole on the right looks the more demented to me. What hath we wrought?
 
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