I hate via chipsets

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noxipoo

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my old k6-2 asus board was great... i can't play UT in win2k becuase it locked up. i can't move files around because it BSOD on me. i'm sick of this and that patch and i think they are hurting each other. i'm reformatting soon, just takes me forever to back things up
 

rockhard

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How long you had the board noxipoo?
These things have guarantees yeah?
I know it be kinda awkward, but you really should try ringing Asus direct, and ask for a replacement.
I would have thought that if it is faulty, and within a year of purchase your statutory legal rights should demand this from Asus.
Give the supplier a ring who you got it from and give them some chew.
Dont let them get awat with it bud.
Seems that mobo manufacturers get away with palming shoddy parts onto the likes of us, and ultimately get away with it as we just palm it onto someone else

You gotta watch out when buying mobo's as i have heard rumours that some mobo manufacturers sell off the faulty RMA's as scrap, but somehow they find their way back onto the market!
 

eyez

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I run 4 systems concurrently on w2k. Order of stability:

1. PII 350/matrox g200/128mbRAM (? chipset): never crashed
2. Celeron 566/onboard video/128mbRAM (? chipset): never crahed
3. AMD 1.2g (iwill kk266)/Radeon VE/512mbRAM: crashed everyother day (lock ups)
4. AMD 1.2g (kt7-r)/radeonVE/512mbRAM: BSOD at least once everyday (recently changed RAM settings, hopefully will be more stable).
 

huanaku

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I've never had problems with my A7V. It was a pain to set-up, but once done, worked great. I've had it up with win2k server/advanced server for the past 10 months, only rebooting for format or installation.
 

Sugadaddy

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Have you tried upgrading the IDE Busmaster driver to the Microsoft one? SP2 contains a new IDE driver that's dated 4/24/2001... It doesn't install automatically, but windows will find it if you click upgrade driver and let it search for the best driver. It fixed a problem where my comp would suddenly reboot when transferring huge files from a partition to another...
 

MrWhiteUK

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<< An A7V is a piece of sh!t no matter what Anand, Tom, Cnet or Mobo review says.....Get something, anything !, else...VIA isn't that bad anymore... >>


I couldn't have put it better myself, I have had 4 Asus RMA7V's, first 2 didn't work outta the box, next 2 were just plain crap.


<< You gotta watch out when buying mobo's as i have heard rumours that some mobo manufacturers sell off the faulty RMA's as scrap, but somehow they find their way back onto the market! >>


Sh!t, I must be the unluckiest guy on the planet, I found 4!

The A7V is a crock period.

And I'm fuc*ing sick of everyone blaming all there problems on the damn 686B chip,

My printouts are streaky, damn via 686b!

My toolbar has dissapeared in Word, damn you Via!!

My temps have gone up by 1c, right Via last chance!!

My woman left me, that's it I'm gettin' a Pentium!!

Ditch the SBLive if it causes problems and shut the f*ck up.
 

GregMal

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PYR: I'm running an AMD on an Intel chipset right now!!!
I've got a Shuttle 569 MB with Intel TX chipset and an AMD K6-233...
heh.....
But seriously I agree with you.....If I could get an Athlon/Duron
on a MB with an 815 chipset, I'd be 1st in line....
Greg
 

AaronP

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my next computer may be a P4 just because I am sick of dealing with VIA chipset issues.
 

SleepyGuy

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hmmm... the only problem that i have with my msi kt7 pro2a is that it doesn't oc consistenly... i always have to &quot;cold&quot; reboot to get oc frequency again... take like 5 seconds...either than that i've transfered 20 GBs of data back and forth between large drives... no probs. I use the overclockers bios and the latest 4in1's (4.32s). Gonna retire this machine soon when the nForce comes out. Peace out!
 

novice

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Interesting thread. Can't say I agree with the original post. My Via chipset motherboards have been very stable, even the KT-133a. Of course all three of my boards are MSI, and all I run is Win98SE. It seems that a lot of people struggle with Win2K and Via, especially with Creative Soundblaster Live thrown into the mix. BTW, I actually run Aureal soundcards on all my systems without any problems.
Chuck
 

Raspewtin

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<< my next computer may be a P4 just because I am sick of dealing with VIA chipset issues. >>



nforce, sis, and Ali are Via-less AMD solutions Once AMD is no longer married to POS Via, it should get more market share.
 

Mikendi

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I had no trouble (except for SBLive thing) on my MSI K7T-turbo, but I'm having a hell of a time with this A7V133 RAID. #2 PCI slot is useless as any card you put there has to share an IRQ with the promise ATA/100. My choices: Ultra SCSI/FireWire/SBLive - Hmmm . . . pretty much all hogs. My next chipset will be AMD DDR and screw Via till they get their act together. Too bad the market is flooded with them.
 

ArchAngel777

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I have only tested 1 A7V, and that was to try and get my friends working. That thing was lockup galore. In fact I did a google search on the same exact problem, and wallah, I seen over 300 posts from people that had the same indenticle problem. These were people that knew Asus makes awesome boards.... but just goofed on the A7V. Oh well enough complaints with VIA, the Asus A7V was a crappy production board.
 

Bozo Galora

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once the sis735 chipset boards get out there, people will abandon via in droves, it will be a stampede
 

sd

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I never really had that problem. I had sh!tty sound with the SB Live, but I dumped that in favor of the Santa Cruz.
 

pyr

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Well, while I expected that people would say 'hey my Via board is stable' it is nice to see that there is no one saying 'hey my via board performs aweseom!'. Until Via can make a chipset that has equivalent performance to an intel chipset, its just not worth it. In fact its the only thing keeping me from and athlon. I really really hope the nforce is as promised so i can ditch intel.
 

MrWhiteUK

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<< Until Via can make a chipset that has equivalent performance to an intel chipset >>



How could you ever be able to tell? Via chipsets are lesser performers than intel ones are they?
 

rockhard

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<< once the sis735 chipset boards get out there, people will abandon via in droves, it will be a stampede >>


Im currently running a rig using the Sis 635 chipset, and Win2K, runs totally stable 24/7 with Win2K.
If the 735 is anything like the 635, we got a good stable chipset to look forward to IMO.
Be interesting to see which mobo manufacturers goof the implementation though :/
 

rockhard

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<< Well, while I expected that people would say 'hey my Via board is stable' it is nice to see that there is no one saying 'hey my via board performs aweseom!'. >>


Heh, my KK266R is running fully loaded with both SCSI and 3Ware raid card TOTALLY stable with Win2K
Memory benches as 540ish/610ish at 133 fsb.
So to say that noone is saying thyre getting great performance from Via with stability is a bit short sighted.
Most people who are, just saying nowt as theyve nowt to grumble about.
Also hand on heart, this rig is just as stable as a BX, if not more so if you count the likes of the BE6r2 and other troublesome BX and i815 chipset based mobo's.
You guys should be looking more at the mobo's themselves, not necessarily the chipset IMO.
Theres been quite a few mobo's recently that are getting away with it due to blaming the chipset, when it appears its really the implementation that has issues.
I used to have a MSI K7TPro-2A - my 3Ware raid card would only work in one of all the PCI slots! Yet the KK266R has no such probs? hmmm?
When people keep going BX this and i815 that it makes me laugh, if i could be bothered i could find loads of probs with mobo's with the aformentioned chipsets = note mobo's not the chipset.
Look at CL = Theyre SBLive cards IIRC dont even adhere to the PCI 2.1 standard properly - and you guys wonder why you have probs.
Come on guys, please think about what you say about this before you diss.
Theres more to this than just blaming the chipset.
 

Sharkmeat

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I see people buying up all the power supplys in comp-usa just to keep the AMD systems going,now you buying diff MB to get stability.Now if I,m not mistaken you got AMD,s because it was cheaper,but to me you just busted the bubble on that approach.Besides changing a perfectly good sound card to get one that works on a VIA chip set.Damn how much smarts does it take to get some logic behind all this crap.You just spent enough money on the side to get an Intel setup with out all the bull Sh*T.But most people get AMD,s to play with to keep working on there computer so they think they doing something so in a way the hobbie is cheaper on the AMD side.If that is your goal of doing upgrades just to be doing something to talk about LOL.
 

kgraeme

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I have a KK266-R. It's currently stable. But I had to work like a sonofabitch for the last 3 months to get it that way. And every single thing that was a problem was linked in some way to the 686B. That's just crazy. When it's time to upgrade again, I can say for certain that it will not be to a VIA chipset.

(BTW, I did pull the SB Live! and used the onboard audio. It still crashed, just without the screech first.)
 
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