I have a problem with the ONE or psst physicists, in here pls

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Z15CAM

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For example, he claimed that the confirmation of the Higgs raised questions about the standard model and made a couple of wild leaps about what this might imply.
That I never said. Some of you guys are some what gullible reading a troll remarks between words that I did not write. I implied that implication of observing a particle, such as the speedy neutrino, traveling faster then the speed of light between CERN and OPERA could have implications regarding the Standard Model and one explanation for such an instance could be miniscule black holes with in the Higgs Field and if you want references here we go:http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897

From what I understand they are still very much concerned about the speed of muon Neutrinos as there is still appears to be time out on whether it was attributed to human error. "In response to the latest OPERA result, MINOS issued a statement saying that it is upgrading its timing system to match OPERA's precision. MINOS might also be able to complete a preliminary check of the OPERA result, using its existing system, as soon as early 2012." - where by the trials have not been definitively completed as of yet and it`s almost 2014. "CERN defends its decision to host a symposium in which OPERA announced the result. "It is the normal order for any scientific process," says Arnaud Marsollier of the CERN press office. "Even in September, we were very cautious in saying this is not a discovery, this is something that is not understood and that we want to check again." http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn21510-was-speeding-neutrino-claim-a-human-error.html

Neutrino's are calculated to decay at about 2.1*10-21 years which is about 100 billion times longer than the age of the Universe. This suggest neutrinos may be there own Anti-Particle. I suppose it all amounts to exploring Einstein's /\ Constant using in 4 Dimensional Calculations (R4) regarding Dark Energy and Matter missing from the Universe. Some Physicists suggest we explore 5 Dimensional Calculations (R5) which may ultimately lead to see an Infinitely Dimensional (Rn) Universe. I agree it's abstract but abstraction, postulation and imagination I believe has a way for us to see things we can't understand about the universe, ourselves and how we fit in.

Here's an interesting Mapping of Dark Matter structure in the Universe: http://www.space.com/10329-dark-matter-3.html

So light Bends around Dark Matter. Questions arise; are Neutrinos Dark Matter, do Neutrinos orbit around Black Holes, can Neutrinos travel faster then the speed of light by taking shortcuts ...etc. Hum! I'm back to my hypothesis regarding a Higg's Field Containment Generator to build a Warp Drive Engine where Neutrinos just may be the Spice that will allow us to travel to the furthest parts of the known Universe - Nice to have an imagine when some Physicists are exploring the possibility of Dimensional Shortcuts. ;o)

Photons can not be considered Particles or Waves but more so like instances of Energy between Quantum Particles: What really gets me is why we see what we label as Matter and not the other 85% of the Cosmos we label as Dark Energy and Dark Matter. Here's good Article written on Photons by Eric Flesh: http://quasars.org/photon.txt
 
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That I never said. Some of you guys are some what gullible reading a troll remarks between words that I did not write. I implied that implication of observing a particle, such as the speedy neutrino, traveling faster then the speed of light between CERN and OPERA could have implications regarding the Standard Model and one explanation for such an instance could be miniscule black holes with in the Higgs Field and if you want references here we go:http://arxiv.org/abs/1109.4897
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Why are you focused on the past? It's been confirmed that the faster than light reading was false.

The ICARUS experiment confirmed that nutrinos travel at light speed, after which it was confirmed that the FTL nutrino reading was a mistake.
 

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That I never said. Some of you guys are some what gullible reading a troll remarks between words that I did not write.
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All I see is your drawing wild conclusions and then hunting around frantically for shreds of proof that they might be plausible.



As long as you recognize that you will have a high rate of failure, it is one means of doing science... though not a very rigorous one.
 

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All I see is your drawing wild conclusions and then hunting around frantically for shreds of proof that they might be plausible.
The biting few words of a troll - LOL

I'm sure anyone reading this thread has more then likely gained more of an understanding about Particle Physics and Einstein Theory on Relatively from my input then yours.

I don't Bash unless it's obviously asks for and let readers form their own opinion on what is crap.
 
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The biting few words of a troll - LOL

I'm sure anyone reading this thread has more then likely gained more of an understanding about Particle Physics and Einstein Theory on Relatively from my input then yours.

I don't Bash unless it's obviously asks for and let readers form their own opinion on what is crap.

I am going to say not, you continue to try and spread bad and wrong information. Even after being told you are incorrect multiple times.
 

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If there is no room for speculation in Particle Physics and Hypothetical Abstract Math? Then we go nowhere - Read my references?

I can't possibly write that much material in this thread so I give references where Trolls do not have the gumshoe to do so. Suggest you go to Cornell University Physic Forums and State your Matter - Glad you're interested - And that what's Counts if we are to advance.

So what if I'm an addicted reader, I know more then what Plato or De Vince could Imagine and their Imagination foretold whom we are today.
 
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If there is no room for speculation in Particle Physics and Hypothetical Abstract Math? Then we go nowhere - Read my references?

Not if you don't have the knowledge of physics to begin with.

I can't possibly write that much material in this thread so I give references where Trolls do not have the gumshoe to do so. Suggest you go to Cornell University Physic Forums and State your Matter - Glad you're interested - And that what's Counts if we are to advance.

So what if I'm an addicted reader, I know more then what Plato or De Vince could Imagine and their Imagination foretold whom we are today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faster-than-light_neutrino_anomaly

How about instead of making random speculation, you first learn about the subjects. This happens all the time especially in physics, people making claims or speculating on things they have very little knowledge about.
 

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Basically, I don't believe in random hit speculation but how many votes elect - Good for Your vote.

It tells me you're interested in Matters that define who we are in respect to the Universe.

GOD! Wish I knew the answer.
 
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If there is no room for speculation in Particle Physics and Hypothetical Abstract Math? Then we go nowhere - Read my references?

I can't possibly write that much material in this thread so I give references where Trolls do not have the gumshoe to do so. Suggest you go to Cornell University Physic Forums and State your Matter - Glad you're interested - And that what's Counts if we are to advance.

So what if I'm an addicted reader, I know more then what Plato or De Vince could Imagine and their Imagination foretold whom we are today.

What the hell are you rambling on about?
 

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Basic Physics or Totalitarianism take a deep breath. and expand.
Is that my quote - Must have had few under the belt because I do not recall ever using the word "Totalitarianism" but, it does express my view in regards without Imagination we are blind - If I ever used that word excuse me.

Smart Cookie ;o)

We just CRASHED the Forum over your Skill - Like your Intuitive.
 
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Is that my quote - Must have had few under the belt because I do not recall ever using the word "Totalitarianism" but, it does express my view in regards without Imagination we are blind - If I ever used that word excuse me.

Smart Cookie ;o)

We just CRASHED the Forum over your Skill - Like your Intuitive.

What the heck are you talking about?

Do you finally see that the ftl neutrino results were incorrect?

You are welcome to imagine, but don't expect anything you imagine to be taken seriously if you don't understand much on the subject to begin with. You end up sounding ignorant and that you don't have any knowledge on the subject you are talking about. This is the problem that many starting out on these things have. They think that they will see and understand something that others have not. The problem is that to do this you first must have a deep understanding of the physics and math to start.
 

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What the heck are you talking about?

Do you finally see that the ftl neutrino results were incorrect?

You are welcome to imagine, but don't expect anything you imagine to be taken seriously if you don't understand much on the subject to begin with. You end up sounding ignorant and that you don't have any knowledge on the subject you are talking about. This is the problem that many starting out on these things have. They think that they will see and understand something that others have not. The problem is that to do this you first must have a deep understanding of the physics and math to start.

Agreed.

In almost all cases, in order to expand the frontier, you must have thoroughly explored the area behind the frontier...
 
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