I have a question for Catholics.

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't think with the appointment of a new Pope that there will be sweeping changes.
i would like to see acceptance of homosexuals because i don't feel they choose that lifestyle. i feel it is inherent.
also, i do think their should be revision to allow women priests. there is a severe shortage of priests and if they are not going to allow priests to marry, they have to do something else drastic to address this shortage.

other than that, i don't think there is anything that has a chance of changing.

So you want to rewrite the Bible/change the status quo of 4000 years because YOU believe gayness is not a choice?

i cannot rewrite anything

and you believe homosexuality is a choice?

Yes.

i don't, because why would someone choose to live with the ridicule and stigma people like you place upon them?

When did he say anything negative about homosexuals?

Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't think with the appointment of a new Pope that there will be sweeping changes.
i would like to see acceptance of homosexuals because i don't feel they choose that lifestyle. i feel it is inherent.
also, i do think their should be revision to allow women priests. there is a severe shortage of priests and if they are not going to allow priests to marry, they have to do something else drastic to address this shortage.

other than that, i don't think there is anything that has a chance of changing.

So you want to rewrite the Bible/change the status quo of 4000 years because YOU believe gayness is not a choice?

i cannot rewrite anything

and you believe homosexuality is a choice?

Yes.

i don't, because why would someone choose to live with the ridicule and stigma people like you place upon them?

When did he say anything negative about homosexuals?

Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

let him speak for himself.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BigJ
When did he say anything negative about homosexuals?

Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

let him speak for himself.

:roll:

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't think with the appointment of a new Pope that there will be sweeping changes.
i would like to see acceptance of homosexuals because i don't feel they choose that lifestyle. i feel it is inherent.
also, i do think their should be revision to allow women priests. there is a severe shortage of priests and if they are not going to allow priests to marry, they have to do something else drastic to address this shortage.

other than that, i don't think there is anything that has a chance of changing.

So you want to rewrite the Bible/change the status quo of 4000 years because YOU believe gayness is not a choice?

i cannot rewrite anything

and you believe homosexuality is a choice?

Yes.

Engaging in any kind of sexual behavior is a choice, but homosexuals did not choose to be sexually attracted to members of the same sex any more than straight people choose to be sexually attracted to members of the opposite sex.

I feel the Catholic church can do whatever it wants. However, I choose to not be a part of it.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

I believe the Pope has the power to change the rules of Catholicism, which is kinda what this thread is all about.

 

[Ynog]

Changes - not sure.

I'd like to see it not take any steps backwards.

On thing I would like to see continue is way that Pope John Paul II treated other religions.
He healed major rifts between the Jewish community and the Catholic church, and was
always respectful of other religions.

As far as the major issues, mainly allows for married priests and female priests, I can
honestly say that I haven't formed a solid opinion on either.

Although I believe that a shortage of priests shouldn't be the reason for either of those. I
believe that would be a poor reason to make those changes. Because if down the road,
you didn't have a shortage of priest, why not just change it back.

I do think that if you are going to allow for married priests, it should be one way only,
a married person becoming a priest. I think once you complete the Sacrament of Holy Orders
you should no longer be allowed to complete the Sacrament of Marriage.


Another thing that I'm really not decided on because of the pluses and minuses, is
takes back of some control of local diocese by the Vatican. I believe the had the
Vatican had more control over some of diocese, the situation of abuse would have
been handled differently and IMHO better.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: nakedfrog

Originally posted by: BigJ
Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

I believe the Pope has the power to change the rules of Catholicism, which is kinda what this thread is all about.

He does, but that doesn't mean he should for no other reason than a bunch of people would like him to do it. If it's a hard issue that could shake the very foundation of the RCC, then by all means go for it.

 

[FlyLice]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: FlyLice

Originally posted by: moshquerade
i don't think with the appointment of a new Pope that there will be sweeping changes.
i would like to see acceptance of homosexuals because i don't feel they choose that lifestyle. i feel it is inherent.
also, i do think their should be revision to allow women priests. there is a severe shortage of priests and if they are not going to allow priests to marry, they have to do something else drastic to address this shortage.

other than that, i don't think there is anything that has a chance of changing.

So you want to rewrite the Bible/change the status quo of 4000 years because YOU believe gayness is not a choice?

i cannot rewrite anything

and you believe homosexuality is a choice?

Yes.

i don't, because why would someone choose to live with the ridicule and stigma people like you place upon them?

When did he say anything negative about homosexuals?

Honestly, if you can't follow the rules of a religion, change you're religion. I couldn't follow the rules of Catholicism, nor could I agree with some of the actions of the RCC. I am now a non-denominational Christian, who reads through the teachings of various Christian branches.

let him speak for himself.

Why do fat people choose to eat so much knowing they will live with the ridicule and stigma that people will place upon them?

In my opinion, from reading the Bible and living life, homosexuality is a sin and we humans choose to sin. However, I do not criticize them nor do I "stigmatize" or hate etc blah. We are all sinners; as Jesus said, "Let him who is without sin cast the first stone."

I also do not agree with Catholicism; that is why I am a Protestant. The part I don't agree with is the whole go through the church to have a relationship with God part. Protestants believe God sent Jesus Christ so that we as individuals can have a direct relationship with God. With this new covenant, the Church is not needed. Obviously the Catholic church has great interest in keeping the church as a higher authority because of the great power it brings them; if the Catholic church all of a sudden decreed the church is no longer needed---well I don't like to think about the consequences. I am not "against" the Catholic church; I recognize that it does great good in this world.

 

[chrisms]

I'd like to see priests who are able to marry. Nothing in the bible is against this. But you have to remember this is an institution which has been around for 2000+ years, a guy just won't come in and change everything. American's progressive Catholics can only hope for one of the major changes people are talking about, if they are extremely lucky. Changes don't come quickly in the church.