I have absolutely had it with ASUS!

[Freejack2]

[RANT]
Seems like every other board it's some problem. One that really pissed me off was the P4PE, sound distortion when raid was used. Did Asus ever fix it? Nope, had to relegate the board to another use. Ok, I can forgive and forget, the P4P800 was a fairly decent board.
Now comes this K8V SE Deluxe board. What did Asus do? They forgot for the past 3 bios releases to include the bios for the Southbridge sata. 3 fricken bios revisions and they won't fix it. So now I have a completely worthless board unless I go out and buy a PATA drive.
[/rant]

So what should I get to replace this piece of crap. I see a Gigabyte Nforce 3 board for a decent price.
How is Gigabyte, or should I get another brand?
Has ABIT gotten back to making good products or are they still pretty bad too?

 

[imported_Kensai]

:laugh:
Take a look at MSI.

 

[silverpig]

I've got an Abit NF7 that works well, and has replaced my dead A7N8X Deluxe. I've also got a DFI LanParty and, while being picky and giving me headaches to begin with, is now a very solid fully working board.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Freejack2
[RANT]
Seems like every other board it's some problem. One that really pissed me off was the P4PE, sound distortion when raid was used. Did Asus ever fix it? Nope, had to relegate the board to another use. Ok, I can forgive and forget, the P4P800 was a fairly decent board.
Now comes this K8V SE Deluxe board. What did Asus do? They forgot for the past 3 bios releases to include the bios for the Southbridge sata. 3 fricken bios revisions and they won't fix it. So now I have a completely worthless board unless I go out and buy a PATA drive.
[/rant]

So what should I get to replace this piece of crap. I see a Gigabyte Nforce 3 board for a decent price.
How is Gigabyte, or should I get another brand?
Has ABIT gotten back to making good products or are they still pretty bad too?

What makes you think it was Asus that was at fault for that. I am sorry but I learned awhile ago never to get a VIA based motherboard. They have horrible history with their HDD controllers and just baout everything else you can think of. While Asus might be able to work out a bios release that may fix the roblem who knows how hard it is to come up with it. And before anyone says that another mobo from another company it works fine. I have found that most mobo companies try to stretch the specifications of memory support trace lenght positioning and what not, Asus isn't generally one of them and sometimes (specially when dealing with VIA) it may not work as well as in specification as it does when a company is fidling around with stuff they probably shouldn't be fiddleing around width.

One of the Best examples was my Tyan Trinity 400. Probably the worse mobo i ever purchased. They Follow ever thing to spec since hey make workstation mobos. But I ended up with horrible AGP and memory problems because of it. I would Purchase a Tyan in a heart beat if their was a specific reason to, but I will never buy VIA again. If anyone actually thinks they are anything but a second or third class company then your deluding yourself.

 

[Freejack2]

The problem in this case is ASUS dropped the ball. VIA informed Asus there was a new sata bios but Asus never bothered to include it. I'm sure there is a database full of reports at Asus about this issue and I'm sure noone in their bios development has ever bothered to look at it.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: Freejack2
The problem in this case is ASUS dropped the ball. VIA informed Asus there was a new sata bios but Asus never bothered to include it. I'm sure there is a database full of reports at Asus about this issue and I'm sure noone in their bios development has ever bothered to look at it.

I am sorry I didn't know that VIA went around makeing bios for other companies motherboards.

 

[Freejack2]

From what I've been reading it's something that Asus has to add to the bios in order for the Sata to work. Maybe I should get an Nforce3 board?

 

[13Gigatons]

K8V SE Deluxe board: This board was known to have issues. Basically all VIA based boards have bugs but are really cheap.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
K8V SE Deluxe board: This board was known to have issues. Basically all VIA based boards have bugs but are really cheap.

QFT

Its Not Asus fault here, and I have had other people have reasons come up with some straight forward reasons to not buy ASUS (Just Like any other Manufacturer) but I really don't think this is the case. What you probably read is that Another company was able to update teh bios to take care of the problem but ASUS has yet to find the same fix as theirs. Unless all are using some basic refence design then one fix for one company isn't going to work with another. There is a good chance that the problem can't be completely taken care of no matter what.

Get a NForce Board and if you need AGP get the MSI Neo2, but don't avoid Asus for this blatant VIA issue.

 

[13Gigatons]

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
K8V SE Deluxe board: This board was known to have issues. Basically all VIA based boards have bugs but are really cheap.

QFT

Its Not Asus fault here, and I have had other people have reasons come up with some straight forward reasons to not buy ASUS (Just Like any other Manufacturer) but I really don't think this is the case. What you probably read is that Another company was able to update teh bios to take care of the problem but ASUS has yet to find the same fix as theirs. Unless all are using some basic refence design then one fix for one company isn't going to work with another. There is a good chance that the problem can't be completely taken care of no matter what.

Get a NForce Board and if you need AGP get the MSI Neo2, but don't avoid Asus for this blatant VIA issue.

The Asus A8N-E is a great mobo, I highly recommend it.

 

[Topweasel]

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons

Originally posted by: Topweasel

Originally posted by: 13Gigatons
K8V SE Deluxe board: This board was known to have issues. Basically all VIA based boards have bugs but are really cheap.

QFT

Its Not Asus fault here, and I have had other people have reasons come up with some straight forward reasons to not buy ASUS (Just Like any other Manufacturer) but I really don't think this is the case. What you probably read is that Another company was able to update teh bios to take care of the problem but ASUS has yet to find the same fix as theirs. Unless all are using some basic refence design then one fix for one company isn't going to work with another. There is a good chance that the problem can't be completely taken care of no matter what.

Get a NForce Board and if you need AGP get the MSI Neo2, but don't avoid Asus for this blatant VIA issue.

The Asus A8N-E is a great mobo, I highly recommend it.

OP know that I think of it your using a 754 mobo right? Take a look at the K8N-E. Again if you want to get away from Asus for a while thats okay just don't ignore them because of this problem.

 

[Freejack2]

Well I settled on the Gigabyte GA-K8NS Pro. Price was good and reviews seem to say it's a decent board. I was pretty happy with P3 board I had from them.

I may try Asus again in the future but they better get their act together as the next time I rebuild my main rig I'm going to use an A64 Socket 939 and my choices are Nvidia, or VIA. (Is ATI making A64 boards?)

 

[crizzar]

both ATI an ULi are jumping in here in the next few months

 

[JEDIYoda]

What makes you think it was Asus that was at fault for that. I am sorry but I learned awhile ago never to get a VIA based motherboard.

yep!!! Thats the truth!!

 

[squirrel dog]

The chipset seems to be the trouble with that board . Dont laugh but I have gone to intel boards for the stable factor . With cpu's running at these speeds,o/cing isnt a factor for me .

 

[Pabster]

Try avoiding VIA chipsets. Don't blame ASUS for VIA's PoS chipsets.

 

[mdzapeer]

dont get Gigabyte had a very bad experience with them, go with Epox or MSI or DFI or Abit.

 

[asicman]

EPoX has picked up where Asus left off several years ago. My EP-9NPA+Ultra is rock solid.

 

[orangat]

VIA chipsets aren't crap. They've fixed their IDE latency/bandwidth issues on the 754/939 chipsets. The k8t800pro 939 chipset is very stable. I honestly believe VIA has cleaned up its mess from the kt133/266/400 days.

That said, Soltek and Epox has been getting my money recently and Abit seems to be ok especially with their bulletproof/Japanese capacitor promise.

 

[imported_Kensai]

Originally posted by: Pabster
Try avoiding VIA chipsets. Don't blame ASUS for VIA's PoS chipsets.

Why not? They're the ones who chose to make a motherboard based on Via chipsets.

 

[BigfootKevin]

abit or MSI

 

[13Gigatons]

Now comes this K8V SE Deluxe board. What did Asus do? They forgot for the past 3 bios releases to include the bios for the Southbridge sata. 3 fricken bios revisions and they won't fix it.

Well upon further reflection if VIA fixed the problem and ASUS failed to include it in their bios upgrade then it is ASUS fault and not VIA's.

People do love to bash VIA but this time I would say that it is not their fault.

 

[stoutpuppy1]

man they seem so cheap. I hear of cheap resistors and such. bios problems everywhere. chipset fans burning or completely mangled. overclocking issues, poor ram support and such. i overclocked better with generic than high quality OCZ. the only one that hasn't had huge problems AFAIK is the a7n8x(-e) deluxe, but that's athlon XP and could never overclock well anyways. seriously screw asus i'm done with them.

 

[Richardito]

ABIT is almost bankrupt. Sales (or revenues) are down around 85% :thumbsdown:

 

[Spineshank]

Ive owned numerous VIA boards and had no problems. Ive owned a Nforce 2 board and had no problems and now own an ASRock DualSata2 board with no problems.

I suggest reading the manufactor message boards on the board you are looking at getting to see if it has any common issues you can address before you go and by a board because it looks nice or whatever the reason may be.


And yes Abit isnt looking so hot money wise right now. And rumor is they are going to have ECS make about half their boards from now on.