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nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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I mean if it was Billy Bob from Alaska saying it it would be that.
It's the President of the United States of America with the whole weight of the 3 branches of government supporting him saying it.
You do realize you're arguing with a fascist supporter who claims that there aren't any fascists? Like, you're totally wasting your time here. There's nothing to be learned, no minds to change, no reason to share with someone. Apologies will be issued, goalposts will be moved, and regardless of the outcome, new apologies will be made for the next fascist.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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And it still ain't going to happen without changing the constitution. That's not an easy thing to do.
And end running around the constitution by reinterpreting it is totally off the table?

I mean the guy in charge has publicly said he's up for this and he's loaded the only branch of government that can stop him with his cronies. You don't think that's at least something that he's thinking about?!
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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You do realize you're arguing with a fascist supporter who claims that there aren't any fascists? Like, you're totally wasting your time here. There's nothing to be learned, no minds to change, no reason to share with someone. Apologies will be issued, goalposts will be moved, and regardless of the outcome, new apologies will be made for the next fascist.
Yeah. I like talking to people I don't agree with.
 

WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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They don't disagree with you, they want you to die and don't have the integrity to say it for numerous reasons.

Have at 'em.
Yeah but they are going to want that if I talk to them or not!
If you talk to people you can get them to articulate their position. This can sometimes be more enlightening for them if they haven't really thought about it before.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
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Yeah but they are going to want that if I talk to them or not!
If you talk to people you can get them to articulate their position. This can sometimes be more enlightening for them if they haven't really thought about it before.
You aren't speaking with someone who has 278 posts and is here to have an honest conversation. You can see their account creation date and post count, right?
 

BoomerD

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I’d love to hear why a DA, an AG, a senator, and a vice president were worse than a career grifter who inherited his wealth, was a failure in most of his business ventures (casino, airline, football team), who’s charities had to be disbanded because of fraud, who colluded with the Russians for election/misinformation help, who has many sexual assault allegations against them, and who slept with a porn star after his wife had a baby.

I look forward to this unique perspective.
Because...Harris was black, Indian, and female.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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Hey all I ask for is *if* four years from now he refuses to leave office our usual republican members can say “no he has to leave office”
That’s all I want. Please reply if you agree.
And I wanna fuck Angie Dickinson. Let's see who gets lucky first.
 

SteveGrabowski

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Oct 20, 2014
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He never has to run again...remember?

Hence why I'm so furious at the establishment Democrats who forced Kamala on us and lost us the republic. The Dear Leader is above the law and anyone who thinks he isn't using that power is nuts.
 

Pens1566

Lifer
Oct 11, 2005
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And end running around the constitution by reinterpreting it is totally off the table?

I mean the guy in charge has publicly said he's up for this and he's loaded the only branch of government that can stop him with his cronies. You don't think that's at least something that he's thinking about?!

Exactly this ^. There's already been at least two sections of the constitution rendered essentially moot (emoulements and 14s3) by recent interpretations from the "originalists" on the court.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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And end running around the constitution by reinterpreting it is totally off the table?

I mean the guy in charge has publicly said he's up for this and he's loaded the only branch of government that can stop him with his cronies. You don't think that's at least something that he's thinking about?!
The rule is pretty clear "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". There isn't any wiggle room in that sentence. It's a simple declarative statement. That leaves only one avenue for reelection, change the constitution. He'd have to be an extremely successful president for that to happen, I don't think he'll make that grade.
 
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WelshBloke

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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The rule is pretty clear "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". There isn't any wiggle room in that sentence. It's a simple declarative statement. That leaves only one avenue for reelection, change the constitution. He'd have to be an extremely successful president for that to happen, I don't think he'll make that grade.
The 14th is pretty clear about birthright citizens but he's started the ball rolling on that!
 
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IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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The rule is pretty clear "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". There isn't any wiggle room in that sentence. It's a simple declarative statement. That leaves only one avenue for reelection, change the constitution. He'd have to be an extremely successful president for that to happen, I don't think he'll make that grade.
With the fascist majority on the Supreme Court willing to lie about everything, the amendment is what the fascists want it to be. The emolument clause of the Constitution is every bit as clear as the text above and the Supremes ruled that it doesn't say what it clearly says.
 
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With the fascist majority on the Supreme Court willing to lie about everything, the amendment is what the fascists want it to be. The emolument clause of the Constitution is every bit as clear as the text above and the Supremes ruled that it doesn't say what it clearly says.
Point for this discussion is @Greenman and @pcgeek11 have said he shall not serve another term.
Accept this as good news.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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The rule is pretty clear "No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice". There isn't any wiggle room in that sentence. It's a simple declarative statement. That leaves only one avenue for reelection, change the constitution. He'd have to be an extremely successful president for that to happen, I don't think he'll make that grade.
Of course he could simply have anyone who argued he couldn't become president again killed and that would be 100% legal. (or at least he would be immune from any sanction for doing it)
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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And end running around the constitution by reinterpreting it is totally off the table?

I mean the guy in charge has publicly said he's up for this and he's loaded the only branch of government that can stop him with his cronies. You don't think that's at least something that he's thinking about?!
And if it does happen, he'll shrug and say "I don't agree with that, he shouldn't have done it", and that will be about the extent of his protestations.
 

Greenman

Lifer
Oct 15, 1999
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With the fascist majority on the Supreme Court willing to lie about everything, the amendment is what the fascists want it to be. The emolument clause of the Constitution is every bit as clear as the text above and the Supremes ruled that it doesn't say what it clearly says.
The courts decision in that case was to wipe away the lower courts ruling without any further action. That was done without comment or dissent. None of the justices chose to say anything about it.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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The courts decision in that case was to wipe away the lower courts ruling without any further action. That was done without comment or dissent. None of the justices chose to say anything about it.
We agree that the plain meaning of the emoluments clause clearly prohibited Trump taking personal gifts from other countries and he did it anyway. Does it really matter if they did nothing about it?

And again, not to mention the 'the president can kill anyone he wants' ruling.
 
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