I just found this funny. ATI Acquires XGI.

[akugami]

Originally posted by: Wreckage

Originally posted by: akugami
ATI was the first to implement some forms of video acceleration (especially HD video such as H.264)

I hope you are not talking about AVIVO as it came out way after Purevideo and Purevideo had HD support for Quicktime and WMV9 prior to AVIVO coming out.

ATI was the first to implement 90nm process in their top of the line GPU's

Maybe, but NVIDIA was the first to release a 90nm GPU so I would still call ATI at second.

ATI was the first to implement a dual card GPU solution that did not require absolute matching video cards (brand, bios, model)

Actually thanks to Crossfire's delay, NVIDIA supported unmatched cards in a driver release prior to ATI having it. Second again. Also note that you still needed to find a Mastercard, while any 2 NVIDIA cards of type would work.

I'm sure I could find more holes in those theories just as the original poster had some, but the orginal post was meant more for humor than a flame war.

Your comment about WMV9 acceleration doesn't exactly invalidate the fact that ATI was the first in certain types of video acceleration such as H.264...and I did not and never said ATI was the first with all video acceleration.

I'm fuzzy on who was the first with the video card thing but I can say for sure that before ATI announced such features nVidia didn't have them at all.

I even mentioned in the post that you quoted from that I might have some of the information wrong. Either way you're nitpicking over points that are irrellevant to my main point which is the fact that both nVidia and ATI has stuff they do before the other company. Regardless of what those are, ATI is not the one that always follows nVidia and that both companies make good products.

The quote in the OP's post makes it seem as if ATI follows every single thing nVidia does and that nVidia does everything first. Simply untrue. ATI does a lot of things before nVidia does, so unless someone can disprove all of my points and prove that nVidia does everything first. The fact is that you can't. ATI has a lot of firsts just like nVidia does.

 

[swatX]

whats even funnier is that NV doesnt get much support when they release a new product BUT when ATI comes out with a simillar design its like the whole world changed because of them..

OMFG@HAG))#%I# ATI IS aworouasgh@

 

[jiffylube1024]

Originally posted by: akugami
It's funny, the guy didn't know that ATI was in the console video game GPU business before nVidia. The R100 (Radeon 7200) was the first to fully implement the DX7 bump mapping features and nVidia followed suite. The Mobility Radeon 9000 was the first 4 pipeline notebook GPU and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to have fully programmable DX8 pixel and vertex shaders and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to implement some forms of video acceleration (especially HD video such as H.264) and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to fully support DX9 and 8x AGP with nVidia following suite. ATI was the first to implement 90nm process in their top of the line GPU's with nVidia following suite. ATI was the first to implement a dual card GPU solution that did not require absolute matching video cards (brand, bios, model) with nVidia following suite.

Although I'm probably not accurate on all my "firsts" for ATI my point in all this is to point out that ATI does some things first, nVidia does others first. If a feature is successful, both companies will implement it eventually. Both companies put out good products. Let's just choose whichever fits us best and leave the pissing contest at the door.

^ That was I believe ATI's biggest accomplishment (in terms of product releases) in the past 10 years: the 9700 Pro. Don't forget that aside from DX9 support and AGP 8X that that was also the first 256-pipeline gaming card (a feat scoffed at previously), and the first 8-pipe card.

But aside from the 9700 Pro, where ATI proved they were a serious competitor to Nvidia, it's been a game of leapfrog; back and forth. Nvidia was actually the one with the first fully programmable DX 8 card (GF3 series). ATI's 8500 series didn't hit the markets until GF3's refresh (GF3 Ti 200/500).

ATI is definitely playing follow-the-leader with this acquisition though. Just like they did with Crossfire (a later-coming yet inferior solution).

Hopefully ATI can ride out the X1900 for a bit, because Nvidia's been top dog pretty much since the GF6 days.

 

[BFG10K]

Nvidia was actually the one with the first fully programmable DX 8 card (GF3 series). ATI's 8500 series didn't hit the markets until GF3's refresh (GF3 Ti 200/500).

Yes but nVidia didn't support PS 1.4 with the NV2x, unlike ATi's R200 series. 1.4 is a requirement for DX8.1 compliance.

Also add 16xAF, adaptive AF, 6xMSAA and monthly WHQL driver updates to the list (nVidia still doesn't have the latter two).

 

[Drayvn]

I thought ATi had some form of Crossfire working in CAD packages and stuff like that where they could have up to 32 cards working at the same time or something like that didnt they?

They had that way before SLi was announced?

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: jiffylube1024

Originally posted by: akugami
It's funny, the guy didn't know that ATI was in the console video game GPU business before nVidia. The R100 (Radeon 7200) was the first to fully implement the DX7 bump mapping features and nVidia followed suite. The Mobility Radeon 9000 was the first 4 pipeline notebook GPU and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to have fully programmable DX8 pixel and vertex shaders and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to implement some forms of video acceleration (especially HD video such as H.264) and nVidia followed suite. ATI was the first to fully support DX9 and 8x AGP with nVidia following suite. ATI was the first to implement 90nm process in their top of the line GPU's with nVidia following suite. ATI was the first to implement a dual card GPU solution that did not require absolute matching video cards (brand, bios, model) with nVidia following suite.

Although I'm probably not accurate on all my "firsts" for ATI my point in all this is to point out that ATI does some things first, nVidia does others first. If a feature is successful, both companies will implement it eventually. Both companies put out good products. Let's just choose whichever fits us best and leave the pissing contest at the door.

^ That was I believe ATI's biggest accomplishment (in terms of product releases) in the past 10 years: the 9700 Pro. Don't forget that aside from DX9 support and AGP 8X that that was also the first 256-bit gaming card (a feat scoffed at previously), and the first 8-pipe card.

But aside from the 9700 Pro, where ATI proved they were a serious competitor to Nvidia, it's been a game of leapfrog; back and forth. Nvidia was actually the one with the first fully programmable DX 8 card (GF3 series). ATI's 8500 series didn't hit the markets until GF3's refresh (GF3 Ti 200/500).

ATI is definitely playing follow-the-leader with this acquisition though. Just like they did with Crossfire (a later-coming yet inferior solution).

Hopefully ATI can ride out the X1900 for a bit, because Nvidia's been top dog pretty much since the GF6 days.

getting your words confused?

 

[apoppin]

ATI buys Chinese XGI graphics firm

Macrosynergy is - or was - an XGI Technology alliance company. And, as well as picking up this Chinese presence, ATI says it has also snaffled a few "related personnel" working out of XGI Technology's Santa Clara, operation in California.

ATI boss Dave Orton said the deal brought it two important elements: a "presence in a country that is emerging as the next big technology market and a team of engineers that are highly skilled in our key product areas."

Around 100 Shanghai-based Macrosynergy employees will join ATI, with ATI slavering over the prospect of a slice of a Chinese hardware pie expected to be worth some $20.3 billion this year.