"I just like intel better"

[SickBeast]

I've noticed that lately there have been alot of people posting for advice on a new rig they intend to purchase. That's all well and fine...HOWEVER...many of them are intel fanboys who will buy nothing but intel systems despite what anyone may or may not say to them.

They then go on to flame the people who reccomend an AMD rig to them and call them things like "fanboys". THEY are the ones that are a fanboy!!!

Has anyone here EVER seen someone post that they are only interested in buying an AMD rig because they "just like AMD better"? I never have. In my experience, the people that buy AMD setups are the most objective people on these message boards. They would buy an intel CPU in a second if they performed better and/or cost less. And yet they are called "fanboys" and insulted and flamed constantly simply for their objectivity. It's sick and should be stopped.

Maybe they should replace the unused "Peripherals" forum and make an "intel-only" or "intel fanboy" forum. It seems as though there would be ample people to fill it up with messages.

/rant over.

**EDIT** Look what I found!!

Originally posted by: SickBeast
:Q:Q Wow, I finally found someone who "just likes AMD better". Wow. :Q:Q

I actually like AMD more then Intel

I suppose that's close enough. What do you guys think? Here's the LINK. It's about 3/4 of the way down where he "sets the record straight".

He's a professional journalist to boot. Nice. He even has a disclaimer at the top of the article. I suppose I did take what he said out of context, but he did actually more or less say that he "likes AMD better". :beer:

 

[Corporate Thug]

dude, there are people here with names like AMD4EVER or something like that

 

[dudeman007]

Uh...just stop dude. You have constantly been proved wrong in other threads and said false information. End of story. AMD and Intel are both the leaders of the cpu world and both are amazing when you look at where technology has come. End of story.

 

[SickBeast]

Well, I have yet to see one of these "rate my rig" threads where they were buying AMD because they "like AMD better". I can show you two threads on this forum RIGHT NOW where people are saying exactly this about intel. Link me to a thread and then I'll believe you.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Uh...just stop dude. You have constantly been proved wrong in other threads and said false information. End of story. AMD and Intel are both the leaders of the cpu world and both are amazing when you look at where technology has come. End of story.

why? we can have an intelligent conversation about the topic, no?

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
Uh...just stop dude. You have constantly been proved wrong in other threads and said false information. End of story. AMD and Intel are both the leaders of the cpu world and both are amazing when you look at where technology has come. End of story.

Where was I proven wrong and where is this false information you keep mentionning? You love to flame people but you never have anything to back it up.

/ignored.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Well, I have yet to see one of these "rate my rig" threads where they were buying AMD because they "like AMD better". I can show you two threads on this forum RIGHT NOW where people are saying exactly this about intel. Link me to a thread and then I'll believe you.

no. i have not seen that either. however, i have seen it a few times about intel but it is still fairly rare

 

[SickBeast]

Well Shady, if you haven't seen it in over 16,000 posts then I'm convinced it does not exist. So much for being proven wrong, huh dudeman? I somehow doubt you're either a dude or a man. Surely not a man, you're too childish.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Well Shady, if you haven't seen it in over 16,000 posts then I'm convinced it does not exist. So much for being proven wrong, huh dudeman? I somehow doubt you're either a dude or a man. Surely not a man, you're too childish.

no it definately exists. but there may also be reason.

for example, back in the day when i was trying to come up with my system parts, i posted a thread (i believe it was here), and said I want to go the intel path. however, i did not provide a reason why.

in reality, i do a good amount of video encoding so i perfered intel. however, there was no way for anyone to know that since i did not mention it. so to everyone it would seem like a fanboist decision

edit: by "no. i have not seen that either" i meant i havent seen i like amd better threads, i was unclear

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
I would buy the parts listed in my little price fiasco, then save the $300 for a rainy day. Either that or spend it on some components that you otherwise wouldn't have had money for, such as nice speakers, a TV tuner, or a nice graphics card.

The A64 is pretty much priced at par with the P4 rigs. It performs probably 10-20% faster on average and has 64-bit capability, which makes it a better deal, but not even close to as great a deal as the Mobile Athlon XP's are.

From this thread.

Though you are right about the prices...they are NOT 10-20% faster. Theres one

 

[SickBeast]

Fine, so then there must be tons of people who want to build an AMD rig for gaming! However, they never post that they "like AMD better", and if someone were to suggest a better value by going the intel route I'm sure they would be open to it.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: SickBeast
Fine, so then there must be tons of people who want to build an AMD rig for gaming! However, they never post that they "like AMD better", and if someone were to suggest a better value by going the intel route I'm sure they would be open to it.

of course.

if i wanted a rig dedicated to gaming i would go A64 route as well. it should always be mentioned what the rig would be used for and i like X over Y without reason is not a very good argument

 

[OdiN]

Well...I see nothing wrong with just liking Intel better. That's where I'm at right now. I mean....it's simple. I took my 2.4, threw a Zalman on it in an Abit board and overclocked it to 3.4. No biggie, it still runs cooler than an Athlon of the same speed. So...yeah I'm liking the Intel better. I didn't think overclocking would be so simple on an Intel chipset after the 440BX. Intel seemed intent on stopping this practice, but since the 865/875 chips came out it's been a big reason some people have moved over to their CPU's. They fixed rebranding with a processor tag that cannot be changed (at least not without some serious hacking).

Also, an Intel system with an Intel chipset (and going farther an Intel motherboard) will be more stable than an AMD system on any VIA chipset. The NF2 chipset is really the only other choice and it's not without it's troubles and bad implementations.

For a rock solid system, I would recommend an Intel chip, Intel chipset, and Intel board. In fact, this is what I usually sell to businesses because I know that they will work and I don't have to worry about anything. If I have trouble, Intel is there to back me up.

I know...you aren't building one strictly for business or whatever but it's possible to just prefer Intel over AMD without being a "fanboy" or biased. I just like Intel better. Now, this isn't to say this won't change, but as things stand now I prefer Intel. Does this make me a fanboy? Of course not. I never say that the AMD is a bad chip, nor does it perform poorly. In fact quite the opposite. The downfalls of AMD's CPU's have usually been in the chipsets that support them. Relying on VIA to make their chips work hasn't always worked to their advantage. The NF2 is good, but I've seen a lot of memory problems and things with that chipset, as well as video problems with VIA's integrated stuff. Not every board has the problems, but they are there.

I agree that there are fanboys out there - on both sides. But your statement is too broad and sweeping of an accusation. If someone just prefers to purchase an Intel, let them. Why should you care? If you are the one pushing the advacement of AMD and pushing people to buy an AMD when they don't want to, then YOU are the fanboy.

 

[327]

I'm kind of middle of the road. All the AMD's and Intels I've had were great chips!

I loved my xp2000 Palamino

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: dudeman007
they are NOT 10-20% faster. Theres one

Looks like 15% to me
Looks like 10% to me
Again, 10%

If the A64 was not at least 10% faster than the P4 on average, the people on here would not be reccomending them in droves.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: OdiN
If you are the one pushing the advacement of AMD and pushing people to buy an AMD when they don't want to, then YOU are the fanboy.

No, it simply means that I am objective and they are ignorant. I considered two options, they only considered one.

 

[Wingznut]

You have got to have your head in the sand if you haven't seen AMD zealot posts around here.

 

[MichaelZ]

dude, this is bad for health

where's jeff and his bellybutton

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
You have got to have your head in the sand if you haven't seen AMD zealot posts around here.

I read these forums every day! Sure there are "AMD zealots" but I have yet to see one say they were buying an AMD rig because they "like AMD better". If you have a link, please share it! :beer:

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Wingznut
You have got to have your head in the sand if you haven't seen AMD zealot posts around here.

I read these forums every day! Sure there are "AMD zealots" but I have yet to see one say they were buying an AMD rig because they "like AMD better". If you have a link, please share it! :beer:

How about an "I refuse to buy Intel" comment?

 

[SickBeast]

Yeah I guess so. I was hoping for "I like AMD better" since I've seen that exact sentence twice by two different people today (except for intel), but that will do I suppose. Did they give a reason? If there's no reason then you have solved the mystery of the day. :beer:

 

[tweeve2002]

For me I dont care who is the chip is by. When it comes to buying a CPU and motherboard I pick who ever has the best chip at the point. I mean when the P4 was running a 533 FSB before the 800 FSB I was looking at getting an AMD for my game server but then the P4C's came out and I got one of those Instead, because it was a little bit better at that time. So for me I dont care Who ever is the best when i decide to buy the CPU and motherboard, is who i go with.

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Wingznut
You have got to have your head in the sand if you haven't seen AMD zealot posts around here.

I read these forums every day! Sure there are "AMD zealots" but I have yet to see one say they were buying an AMD rig because they "like AMD better". If you have a link, please share it! :beer:

Ay...the reason you don't see people deciding between intel and amd is because 3/4's of them go for amd RIGHT OFF THE BAT!

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: OdiN
If you are the one pushing the advacement of AMD and pushing people to buy an AMD when they don't want to, then YOU are the fanboy.

No, it simply means that I am objective and they are ignorant. I considered two options, they only considered one.

No, this post of yours simply proves the fact that you are the ignorant one if you think this way.

You assume that they only considered one option. How do you know this? Perhaps they have already considered and decided on what CPU they want. Why isn't that possible? Just because they have made a decision doesn't mean that they have made such decision blindly and without consideration of alternatives. I'm sure there are some who may have done that, but again, your statement was too sweeping to allow for that.

From my standpoint, Intel is better. Perhaps not better performing all around, but the better overall choice for my customers. However, I still do AMD systems to satisfy the needs of more price-concious people. For a business, the best choice is Intel. There are more factors than simple speed to consider.

 

[magomago]

I have noticed that too...does it piss me off? Not really...

Though if Intel did provide cheap price/preformance processors I'd probably be in bed with the Intel Excecutives than AMD

But at the same time we have to attribute to sheer idiocy on the part of AMD of not learning how to market.

Like the Blueman Group + Intel Ads....genious if you ask me

so don't blame intel as much as horrible AMD marketing