"I just like intel better"

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: magomago
I have noticed that too...does it piss me off? Not really...

Though if Intel did provide cheap price/preformance processors I'd probably be in bed with the Intel Excecutives than AMD

But at the same time we have to attribute to sheer idiocy on the part of AMD of not learning how to market.

Like the Blueman Group + Intel Ads....genious if you ask me

so don't blame intel as much as horrible AMD marketing

LOL! I REMEMBER THAT! Wasn't that for the P III?

lol

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: OdiN
You assume that they only considered one option. How do you know this? Perhaps they have already considered and decided on what CPU they want. Why isn't that possible? Just because they have made a decision doesn't mean that they have made such decision blindly and without consideration of alternatives.

To me, when someone says "I just like intel better" it means that they prefer that brand regardless of anything else. To me, if they "like intel better" they will not even consider AMD, which I believe is the case.

 

[DaveSimmons]

I like intel better

A64 is a better value with better performance, while a heavily overclocked mobile XP can offer great performance at a much better price. I recommend AMD to my patients who chew gum.

But I like intel better for my own use because I'm lazy and an intel P4 CPU + i875 mobo + stock timings = plug and go no worries. I have more free money than free time so I don't mind paying more to get less if it saves me from spending a half day tweaking settings to get a stable overclock, or trying to fix a soundcard conflict because Creative only tested against intel chipsets, or dealing with another buggy Via IDE controller.

Am I a fan? No, just lazy.

 

[Runner20]

I've seen more AMD fanboys than Intel fanboys in these forums or anywhere else.

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: OdiN
You assume that they only considered one option. How do you know this? Perhaps they have already considered and decided on what CPU they want. Why isn't that possible? Just because they have made a decision doesn't mean that they have made such decision blindly and without consideration of alternatives.

To me, when someone says "I just like intel better" it means that they prefer that brand regardless of anything else. To me, if they "like intel better" they will not even consider AMD, which I believe is the case.

I just like Intel better.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: OdiN
I just like Intel better.

Yes I know this.
Yourself and countless others "just like intel better". That's why there needs to be an intel-only forum on here. It would elminate the flame wars. Maybe the other solution would be to make this thread a sticky and tell everyone to put "intel-only" or "AMD-only" in the title to their thread.

 

[Jeff7181]

I like AMD better. There's a reason for that.

1) If I'm an overclocker I can buy a Mobile Barton for $92 and make it run faster than a $180 AMD processor. Or a $170 Intel Pentium 4 2.4C processor to overclock to the speed of a $260 Intel processor.

2) If I'm on an extremely tight budget, for $50-60 I can get an Athlon XP2000, or a 1.8 Ghz Celeron... tough decision isn't it?

3) If I have a lot of money to spare, I can get an Intel P4EE 3.4 GHz for $1,029 (retail)... or I can get an Athlon64 FX-53 for $811 (retail).

4) If I want something more "middle of the road" I can either get an Athlon64 3000+ for $223 (retail)... or I can get an Pentium 4 3.0C GHz for $220 (reatail).

Now if I look at benchmarks and compare my choices...

In choice $1... if I'm buying mid range CPU's with the intent to overclock, I can either spend $90, or $170 to reach about the same performance level... the $180 one being slightly faster in some things... but I'd have to decide if 10% faster is worth almost 100% more money.
I'd rather spend almost 50% of the money for 90% of the performance.
Mobile XP2500.

In choice #2... I'd have to be stupid, retarded, or blind to chose the Celeron over the XP2000 since the XP2000 cost less and performs better in EVERY situation.
I'd rather spend less money for more performance.
XP2000

In choice #3... there would be a few areas where the $1000 processor would beat the $800 processor... but I'd have to ask myself if the difference in performance is worth $200. And what if I decide to overclock these after a year or two when they're no longer the fastest thing available... can I overclock the $800 processor more than the $1000 processor so that the $800 processor would now outperform the $1000 processor in ALL areas? Also... what if I want to upgrade my processor in 2 years, will I be able to buy a new CPU for my motherboard that I got with the $1000 processor? How bout the $800 processor?
I'd rather spend $200 less for similar performance with a viable upgrade path.
FX-53

In choice #4... the decision is a little less apparent. I'd have to look at what I intend to do with it. The most CPU intense thing I do on a daily (or even weekly basis) is gaming. I probably encode 1-2 movies per month. If I was doing more encoding, I'd go for the Intel CPU... but since I don't do much encoding, the AMD CPU would be faster in the things I do.
I'd rather spend a few dollars more for a product with similar overall performance, and better performance in the things I intend to do with it.
If I'm a media encoder, Pentium 4... if I'm a gamer, Athlon64 3000+




Oh yeah... and... I have a belly button! hehe... just thought I'd show you all my thought process that keeps putting AMD processors in my Antec Performance 2 Workstation Tower

 

[OdiN]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: OdiN
I just like Intel better.

Yes I know this.
Yourself and countless others "just like intel better". That's why there needs to be an intel-only forum on here. It would elminate the flame wars. Maybe the other solution would be to make this thread a sticky and tell everyone to put "intel-only" or "AMD-only" in the title to their thread.

Ahhhh...but did I jump blindly onto an Intel bandwagon, or do you believe I have legitimate reasons for preferring the Intel brand? This is where your argument breaks down some. I do agree though, that if someone is going to ask for an opinion on a new system, they should not flame someone for suggesting a specific brand. That is, unless it is stated that they want an Intel chip or and AMD chip and that they only want suggestions on accompanying products. If I said I wanted an Intel system and someone started shoving AMD at me, I wouldn't take too kindly to that.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181
I like AMD better. There's a reason for that.

1) If I'm an overclocker I can buy a Mobile Barton for $92 and make it run faster than a $180 AMD processor. Or a $170 Intel Pentium 4 2.4C processor to overclock to the speed of a $260 Intel processor.

2) If I'm on an extremely tight budget, for $50-60 I can get an Athlon XP2000, or a 1.8 Ghz Celeron... tough decision isn't it?

3) If I have a lot of money to spare, I can get an Intel P4EE 3.4 GHz for $1,029 (retail)... or I can get an Athlon64 FX-53 for $811 (retail).

4) If I want something more "middle of the road" I can either get an Athlon64 3000+ for $223 (retail)... or I can get an Pentium 4 3.0C GHz for $220 (reatail).

Now if I look at benchmarks and compare my choices...

In choice $1... if I'm buying mid range CPU's with the intent to overclock, I can either spend $90, or $170 to reach about the same performance level... the $180 one being slightly faster in some things... but I'd have to decide if 10% faster is worth almost 100% more money.
I'd rather spend almost 50% of the money for 90% of the performance.
Mobile XP2500.

In choice #2... I'd have to be stupid, retarded, or blind to chose the Celeron over the XP2000 since the XP2000 cost less and performs better in EVERY situation.
I'd rather spend less money for more performance.
XP2000

In choice #3... there would be a few areas where the $1000 processor would beat the $800 processor... but I'd have to ask myself if the difference in performance is worth $200. And what if I decide to overclock these after a year or two when they're no longer the fastest thing available... can I overclock the $800 processor more than the $1000 processor so that the $800 processor would now outperform the $1000 processor in ALL areas? Also... what if I want to upgrade my processor in 2 years, will I be able to buy a new CPU for my motherboard that I got with the $1000 processor? How bout the $800 processor?
I'd rather spend $200 less for similar performance with a viable upgrade path.
FX-53

In choice #4... the decision is a little less apparent. I'd have to look at what I intend to do with it. The most CPU intense thing I do on a daily (or even weekly basis) is gaming. I probably encode 1-2 movies per month. If I was doing more encoding, I'd go for the Intel CPU... but since I don't do much encoding, the AMD CPU would be faster in the things I do.
I'd rather spend a few dollars more for a product with similar overall performance, and better performance in the things I intend to do with it.
If I'm a media encoder, Pentium 4... if I'm a gamer, Athlon64 3000+




Oh yeah... and... I have a belly button!

i really agree with everything presented in this post

:beer: for you Jeff

 

[Jeff7181]

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

and I'm counting down the years till I can drink legally

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

and I'm counting down the years till I can drink legally

i'm still counting the days

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

and I'm counting down the years till I can drink legally

i'm still counting the days

LOL

 

[Jeff7181]

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

and I'm counting down the years till I can drink legally

i'm still counting the days

I've never had Becks. What I'd really like right now is a Yuengling Traditional Lager. But since I'd have to drive about 400 miles to get one... I'd settle for (in order)... Red Stripe Jamaican Lager, Molsen Ice, MGD, Heineken, or Bud.

 

[dudeman007]

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: dudeman007

Originally posted by: shady06

Originally posted by: Jeff7181

:beer: for you Jeff

It's not pisswater like I'm drinking right now is it? Stuck with Miller Light.

well, i'm having a Becks in your honor

and I'm counting down the years till I can drink legally

i'm still counting the days

I've never had Becks. What I'd really like right now is a Yuengling Traditional Lager. But since I'd have to drive about 400 miles to get one... I'd settle for (in order)... Red Stripe Jamaican Lager, Molsen Ice, MGD, Heineken, or Bud.

and yeah...er my order is..
coke, gatorade, lemonade, and water :0

 

[Gurck]

You're right, you don't see people who 'just like AMD better' - you see people who feel that 'AMD iz the r0xx0r pwrl33t ololololo n u r dum if u dont luv dem bcuz dey r so kewlz0rz!!!111!1111uno!!1!1oneonetwo'. Both sides have their fanboiz, but the Intel fanboiz - though maybe wrong - at least can usually form a coherent sentence legible to those older than 10. Those are the extremes though; most people here and elsewhere are much more in the middle of the spectrum. Intel does have an advantage in video encoding as well; someone choosing Intel for a video editing rig has good reason, though I agree AMD is generally much less expensive for equivalent performance.

 

[myocardia]

Okay, I'll bite. *I just like AMD better.* Of course, anyone wanting to change my opinion by sending me a 3.2C and an IS7 or IC7 is more than welcome to try!

 

[MichaelZ]

this thread ought to become a poll with 3 options.

1) i just like intel better.
2) i just like amd better.
3) i'm technical and purchase purely on my technical needs.

then we can get a rough idea of how many people don't give a rats ass and just buy whatever they "just like better"

 

[n0cmonkey]

I've posted in a number of those threads saying that I buy AMD because I prefer it over Intel.

 

[Mo0o]

I know plenty of AMD fanboys who only buy AMD because they think only the "leet hax0rz know AMD is better than Intel alwayz". In truth the two make cpus that have strengths in different aspects. btw THERES A FREAKING USER ON HERE W/ THE USER NAME AMDFANBOY

 

[drag]

I buy AMD generally because a $100 AMD proccessor is much faster then a $100 dollar Intel proccessor.

And that's how I measure my proccessor personally. Ghz measurements be damned.

Lets see the competition here:

50 dollars: AMD XP 2000+ vs PIII 1.13ghz or a 1.6ghz Celeron (AMD wins hands down)

75-85 dollars: AMD XP Barton 2500+ vs Celeron 2.6 GHZ. (Celeron? Pftt...)

around 100-115 dollars:
AMD 2700+ Thoroughbred, 2800+ barton vs P4 2.26ghz or 2.7ghz Celeron.
(Oh, suprise suprise! AMD wins again.)

200-220 dollars?
Athlon 64 mobile 2700+-3000+, Opteron 1.6ghz, Athlon 64 3000+ vs P4 3.06ghz.
(some real compitition in the 200 dollar arena. Outside most people's budgets, but nice non-the-less. Personally I like the NX, 64bit memory and file size advantages, but the 3.06 will probably give slightly better gaming permance.)

300 dollars?
Athlon 64 3200+, Opterons 1.8-2.0ghz vs P4 3.2ghz.
(same as above.)

400+ dollars?
AMD has a wide selection of proccessors from 400-800 dollars. Various 64 bit versions in different incarnations. A few mobile, up till you get to the top of the line FX-53 at 2.4ghz at 800+ dollars. Intel has a good proccessor at 3.4ghz that can probably keep up with the best of the Althon 64 line, but 3.2ghz "extreme at 900 dollars is absurd, and the new 3.4ghz "extreme" at 1000+ isn't even worth considuring at this time period.


Of course if I had unlimited amount of money and could get anything I wanted I would get neither. I'd get IBM power series workstation. Dual or quad or maybe 8 or 16-way (If I am in a good mood) Power4+ or Power5 proccessor with 16-32gigs of RAM and a 200gig scsi array and a 3 terrabyte attatched storage array.

Although I'd still use Debian or Redhat on it, though. Maybe dual boot AIX just for sh!t and giggles.

 

[sandorski]

This is kinda silly. Liking something better is not bad, I prefer AMD for example. I claim to be an AMD fanboy, but I try not to get involved in Bad Fanboy behavious. Coke or Pepsi?

1) Coke! Pepsi drinkers are Fascist Commies and are too stupid to live!!! <-------this person is an a55

2) Coke! Sorry, I don't have any Pepsi. <----- this person prefers Coke, but doesn't get worked up that someone else prefers Pepsi

Don't get worked up about these things, been there done that and it's a total waste of Time and Energy. Give your opinion on why X > Y, even if it is true and the guy refuses to accept it, no big woop, it's their money.

 

[First]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
You have got to have your head in the sand if you haven't seen AMD zealot posts around here.

Fanboy.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: sandorski
This is kinda silly. Liking something better is not bad, I prefer AMD for example. I claim to be an AMD fanboy, but I try not to get involved in Bad Fanboy behavious. Coke or Pepsi?

1) Coke! Pepsi drinkers are Fascist Commies and are too stupid to live!!! <-------this person is an a55

2) Coke! Sorry, I don't have any Pepsi. <----- this person prefers Coke, but doesn't get worked up that someone else prefers Pepsi

Don't get worked up about these things, been there done that and it's a total waste of Time and Energy. Give your opinion on why X > Y, even if it is true and the guy refuses to accept it, no big woop, it's their money.

The real zealots tend to be AMD (and ATI) fans though. Although those companies certainly have their share of reasonable &amp; mature fans, when you see something like "company_01 iz teh pwn ololol thay r r0xx0rz j00!!1!1", it's never about Intel (or Nvidia)...