I just spent 23 dollars on 2 packs of cigarettes

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iroast

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Gives you health problems down the road, costs quite a bit, inconvenient because you have to smoke in a designated area (outside when it's cold/blistering hot/etc), makes you smell, etc. You should try to quit.
 

IronWing

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The prices are kind of BS now. It costs one so much money to get cancer these days that one won't have enough money left for treatment.
 
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BoomerD

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Got you beat, I remember getting them for my father for 25 cents a pack out of the machine across the street. Of course this was Virginia where they were always cheap because it was such a large part of the economy back then. I think they were up to around a $1.00 a pack at 7-11 when I quit in 1984. When I was in the Navy they cost $2.00 a carton from the ship's store. We had a ration card so you couldn't buy too many cartons and sell them on shore.


yep...$1.60/carton in the commissary, $1.80 in the PX...I remember when they hit $.35/pack in the stores..."Fuck this shit...if they ever hit 50 cents, I'm quitting!"

Welp...when I finally quit cigarettes, they were $6-$7 pack...except when one local store had them on sale for ~$40-$45/carton. They're $9-$12/pack here in western WA now...
 
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Big tobacco was too big to fail....

...or big enough to bribe law makers...either one.

I've always been curious about that - What exactly did happen? Did the generation of smokers just simply die off and all we had in congress were people that just hated smoking so the bribes no longer worked? I'd be interested to learn more - you had situations like prohibition for alcohol - and obviously that shit just didn't fly so they cut back the regulations there and they wouldn't dare try such a thing today... But smoking just took a huge nose-dive all of a sudden.

Either way, smoking companies really don't care in general about the US Market - it's globally that it has taken off and has skyrocketed in other countries like India, so lobbying the US side probably isn't even in their budget anymore.
 

IronWing

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After big tobacco lost state lawsuits in the '90s, Congress bought out the tobacco farming quota and price support system. With the quota and price support gone, one could no longer make a living on ten acres of tobacco and the number of farmers dropped like a rock, reducing the political clout of the tobacco companies.
 

Geekbabe

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Quit & if you don't succeed quit & quit till you do! Go for low dose CT scannof your chest as soon as you are age eligible

Stage IV lung cancer sucks & the treatment is a whole helluva lot more than $23! Trust me, you don't want to be in this club with me!
 
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After big tobacco lost state lawsuits in the '90s, Congress bought out the tobacco farming quota and price support system. With the quota and price support gone, one could no longer make a living on ten acres of tobacco and the number of farmers dropped like a rock, reducing the political clout of the tobacco companies.

Not sure if that makes sense... if the majority of farmers dropped - essentially only leaving the big dogs I would think lobbying would increase?
 

IronWing

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Not sure if that makes sense... if the majority of farmers dropped - essentially only leaving the big dogs I would think lobbying would increase?
Congresscritters claimed that they were "helping family farmers" when passing tobacco subsidies. With no one left but the big farmers, this excuse rang more hollow than previously.
 

midnight growler

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Missouri has the *lowest* tax on cigarettes in the nation at 17 cents. In the past 15 years, there have been 4 ballot initiatives to raise the raise it and each one has failed.
 

Muse

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Jul 11, 2001
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I guess its time to quit cold turkey.
I swear to God, I did just that and it was the easiest thing I've ever done. I never craved a smoke, have never considered lighting up again. Several decades ago.
 

John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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IMO, they should eradicate tobacco from the face of the earth. It's as useful as mosquitoes, smallpox, syphilis, polio and HIV.


Curios. Are you in favor of eradicating marijuana too? It just seems like there's a major hypocrisy here. You have this major campaign on getting people to stop smoking. The ADs, the taxes, the fact you can't smoke in a bar, etc. But it seems more and more people advocate the legalization of pot. That shit has THC in it! I'd say pot is just as bad for you if not worse than cigarettes. So in the grand scheme of things, if you're going to bitch about us smokers, then you need to cram your pot up your ass.

Now I know there's gonna be a whole bunch of people tell me bullshit about how pot is not as bad as cigarettes and shit. But it seems logical that if you smoke it, you will defend it. I've seen that time and time again and I don't give two fucks what you say.
 

IronWing

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Jul 20, 2001
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Curios. Are you in favor of eradicating marijuana too? It just seems like there's a major hypocrisy here. You have this major campaign on getting people to stop smoking. The ADs, the taxes, the fact you can't smoke in a bar, etc. But it seems more and more people advocate the legalization of pot. That shit has THC in it! I'd say pot is just as bad for you if not worse than cigarettes. So in the grand scheme of things, if you're going to bitch about us smokers, then you need to cram your pot up your ass.

Now I know there's gonna be a whole bunch of people tell me bullshit about how pot is not as bad as cigarettes and shit. But it seems logical that if you smoke it, you will defend it. I've seen that time and time again and I don't give two fucks what you say.
Pot is as bad as tobacco. Now go cram your cigarettes up your ass.
 

John Connor

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Nov 30, 2012
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Full disclosure. I tried to quite a few weeks ago. Lasted all but two days. I'm on a diet right now so quieting at the same time is next to impossible. Especially given that this diet is like not eating any food at all. Fucking sucks major. It was easy to gain weight, but it's absolute HELL to lose it.
 
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lxskllr

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Nov 30, 2004
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Full disclosure. I tried to quite a few weeks ago. Lasted all but two days. I'm on a diet right now so quieting at the same time is next to impossible. Especially given that this diet is like not eating any food at all. Fucking sucks major. It was easy to gain weight, but its absolute HELL to lose it.
At least try to cut back. Pay attention, and only smoke when you want a cigarette, not because they're sitting there.
 
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