lol do you have any idea how many soldiers we enlist only BECAUSE of the money?
I do not know any numbers but I could guess there are some people that enlist for job security, yes, but I do not think a significant number of people that become commissioned officers do so solely for financial reasons. Especially not one that stay past their required contracts.
Soldiers do not directly benefit from their operations, either, so I have no idea what you are talking about "assuming they were American soldiers".
Even though this is not AT ALL what I was talking about, I do not see what the problem with profiting from something is. Companies like Pfizer or any other medical/pharmaceutical company make a profit and save lives. If a corporation discovers a resource that will
solve a worldwide energy crisis, they are entitled to some profit, but that isn't even the point. The point is the crisis being solved.
The point is the
American soldier (mercenary or not, profit or not) turning on his fellow soldiers (mercenary or not, profit or not) and
murdering them.
EDIT: because you added more to your original post
also, in the movie, they talk about how earth is no longer green because of what humans did to their own planet. watch it again. it solves the energy crisis that the humans keep causing themselves to have by consumption. it was explained in the movie.
They say that the Earth is brown in the movie. I never said they did not say that. An energy crisis is caused by consuming energy, I agree. I don't see what you are trying to say. James Cameron said that the "unobtainium" would solve their energy crisis. Solve = solution = no more energy crisis. That is not hard to follow.
And what are you trying to suggest? 10 billion people die so that 100 aliens do not have to move because "they were there first"?
the main character didn't murder his fellow soldiers. wtf are you talking about? he wasn't a soldier whenever he was fighting against the humans to protect his people.
Are you seriously fucking retarded? I don't like calling people out like that, but what the fuck? Just because he wasn't physically in his body doesn't mean that he didn't murder someone. If I use a remote controlled robot to murder my neighbor, that is still fucking murder.
He was (ex-)marine and the people he was working with were (ex-)marines. He murdered them. He was not justified at all. It's plain and simple.
no, you don't kill people you disagree with... just like that marine did. he disagreed with the navi on who has rights to the land and decided to kill them and take it instead. jake sully was a freedom fighter for his people (the navi)... not a soldier who decided to be a traitor.
You are allowed to ask people (wait a second, they aren't people - they are fucking aliens) to relocate to save 10 billion human lives. Yes you are, you cannot argue that. Jake Sulley WAS a soldier. He WAS a soldier. I do not see how you can say that he wasn't a soldier. He DEFINITELY was a soldier. He killed other soldiers. That is the definition of being a traitor?
and, no, being punished for choosing not to go against murdering innocents isn't exactly a "choice" someone makes. you make it sound like "oh, you don't want to kill innocent lives? that's subordination... you chose to go to military jail... it was a choice you easily made." that's not at all how shit goes down.
When you join the military, you agree to their rules and let those dictate what you do. You are required to disobey unlawful orders. You are forbidden to murder fellow soldiers under ANY circumstances. ANY.
you: "waaaah, i hated this absolutely amazing movie and felt disgusted and ill because a couple of characters decided to stand up against despotic authority and fight to try and save the lives and livelihood of innocents. that's treason... waaaah "
me: "stfu. maybe you should have felt sick about the american marines killing innocent people in order to get a natural resource and not so much about these dissenting characters doing what could to stop it."
I thought the movie looked incredible. I thought the story was disgusting.
Me: American soldiers killing other American soldiers because they have a personal disagreement with orders is wrong and inappropriate.
You: American soldiers can murder other American soldiers (especially if they are not in their own bodies). If someone does not agree with me, I think they deserve to die.
(directly quoted you)