I just watched the movie Signs....what a retarded ending

[Antisocial Virge]

An alien race comes to earth, where water is perhaps the most abundant substance, even though they can die from water. Of course, wearing some kind of protective covering (people discovered thousands of years ago that oiling any ordinary cloth can make it water-proof) would make sense. And common sense has no place in this movie it seems.

Never saw them wearing any coverings at all did you? Maybe of the evolutionary path they followed they never had a need or discovered coverings. Maybe they have never even seen water before? Wouldn't that make a difference now in all these "stupid alien" theories if they had never seen or knew water was hazardous to them. Once again, the arguments are stupid since your trying to think what an imaginary alien is thinking or how it should behave.

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

An alien race comes to earth, where water is perhaps the most abundant substance, even though they can die from water. Of course, wearing some kind of protective covering (people discovered thousands of years ago that oiling any ordinary cloth can make it water-proof) would make sense. And common sense has no place in this movie it seems.

Never saw them wearing any coverings at all did you? Maybe of the evolutionary path they followed they never had a need or discovered coverings. Maybe they have never even seen water before? Wouldn't that make a difference now in all these "stupid alien" theories if they had never seen or knew water was hazardous to them. Once again, the arguments are stupid since your trying to think what an imaginary alien is thinking or how it should behave.

Sounds like you turned your brain off for the movie about everything but the feel-good cheesy melodramatic crap but "questioning his faith". Not only were the actions by these aliens ridiculously unbelievable but so were the actions my Mel and family.

Mel and his brother, when confronted by threats to the family, repeatedly don't seem to be able to use basic human instincts and pick up a damn weapon even when there is a toolbox right next to him. I don't care if Mel used to be a preacher or not, it's unbelievable and it takes you right out of the moment while watching.

 

[StageLeft]

I thought the ending was good. It fit the movie, which was slow paced at at the same time filled with suspense. I dunno, for me the movie was really good start to finish. I liked when the alien got turned into a baseball.

 

[ShotgunSteven]

Considering the director's past history of plot twists, I was expecting something at the end, like the gas from the alien was going to cure the kid's asthma or something, and then they wind up beating it to death in a Twilight Zone-esque ending, when all the aliens wanted to do was help.

I agree with a previous poster, that said it would have been more interesting to keep the aliens out of sight the whole movie.

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

This movie had plot holes the size of the universe!!!!!! I mean aliens that have masterd intergalactic travel but exhibit the inteligence of a reptile? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

To those who say "its not about the aliens": You can't just ignore the plot holes and say "The message was nice, therefore it was a nice movie". A 9 year old could have written a more coheren plot that included the (somewhat dumb) message.

I still think the movie is internally consistent. The notion that "there are no coincidences" is the test of the faith of Mel Gibson's character. If you take the events of the movie as the way a higher power reveals itself to Gibson, then the logical inconsistencies people are harping about are akin to miracles (symbolism alert: they're signs).

I can understand how those who don't care for the whole idea of faith might not approve of the message of the film, but I really thnk the film addresses the "plot holes" through its setup.

 

[Antisocial Virge]

actions by these aliens ridiculously unbelievable

Ok, explain to me how imaginary creatures are supposed to behave. Your thinking from a totally human-centric point of view.

If you think the fact that he didn't pick up a weapon, something I never even noticed, was unbeleivable and made for a poor movie, what did you do when you watched something like Armageddon? Burn down the theater and riot in the streets? O the topic of Armageddon, wouldn't it have been easier to teach drilling to a astronaut than teaching being a astronaut to a driller.

 

[vash]

I couldn't agree with the ending. First off, I'm asthmatic, so the idea of no air getting in was complete BS to me, so I couldn't swallow the ending at all.

vash

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: MartyTheManiak

This movie had plot holes the size of the universe!!!!!! I mean aliens that have masterd intergalactic travel but exhibit the inteligence of a reptile? It makes absolutely no sense whatsoever!

To those who say "its not about the aliens": You can't just ignore the plot holes and say "The message was nice, therefore it was a nice movie". A 9 year old could have written a more coheren plot that included the (somewhat dumb) message.

I still think the movie is internally consistent. The notion that "there are no coincidences" is the test of the faith of Mel Gibson's character. If you take the events of the movie as the way a higher power reveals itself to Gibson, then the logical inconsistencies people are harping about are akin to miracles (symbolism alert: they're signs).

A higher power reveals itself to Mel by having a race of stupid aliens almost take over the earth?

I can understand how those who don't care for the whole idea of faith might not approve of the message of the film, but I really thnk the film addresses the "plot holes" through its setup.

It's not about not liking the idea of faith. It was done in a very cheesy way with a supporting framework of crap.

Cheese and crap

 

[PCapprentice]

~Even if the movie is not about the aliens, i don't care. What I don't understand is why would the aliens come to take over earth if their weakness is water and earth is covered with 75% water. They can see the water from space too so.....

 

[FeathersMcGraw]

Originally posted by: flavio

A higher power reveals itself to Mel by having a race of stupid aliens almost take over the earth?

Sounds odd to me, too, but again, we're talking about faith and the way that higher powers work in ways that are outside human perceptions and logic. The fact that these sorts of discussions about the plot inconsistencies of the movie exist reinforces what I perceive to be the film's message.

At a more mundanely technical level, the aliens are a Hitchcockian MacGuffin. They're just a plot device to create a situation in which the characters react. There are a number of other homages to Hitchcock in the movie as well, from the soundtrack to some of the camera shots, so I suspect the creative intent was not to even consider scientific plausability (and this is where everyone who doesn't like the movie goes "Aha! So it does suck!"). In that sense, Signs is very much a throwback to earlier cinema, and I suspect that modern audiences are a lot more used to fare that plays by a different set of rules than back then.

Cheese and crap

If everyone had the same opinions on movies, movies would be a lot less fun than they are.

 

[Swag1138]

The best summary of Signs evAr


Spoilers.....kinda.......

 

[Sid59]

Originally posted by: PipBoy
The movie "Signs" in four easy steps:

lmao

 

[flavio]

Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw

Originally posted by: flavio

A higher power reveals itself to Mel by having a race of stupid aliens almost take over the earth?

Sounds odd to me, too, but again, we're talking about faith and the way that higher powers work in ways that are outside human perceptions and logic. The fact that these sorts of discussions about the plot inconsistencies of the movie exist reinforces what I perceive to be the film's message.

At a more mundanely technical level, the aliens are a Hitchcockian MacGuffin. They're just a plot device to create a situation in which the characters react. There are a number of other homages to Hitchcock in the movie as well, from the soundtrack to some of the camera shots, so I suspect the creative intent was not to even consider scientific plausability (and this is where everyone who doesn't like the movie goes "Aha! So it does suck!"). In that sense, Signs is very much a throwback to earlier cinema, and I suspect that modern audiences are a lot more used to fare that plays by a different set of rules than back then.

Cheese and crap

If everyone had the same opinions on movies, movies would be a lot less fun than they are.

When you go to see a sci-fi or fantasy movie you may accept the premise, but are still looking for some sort of realism in the form of rational thought from the characters and basic natural laws. They always talk about the "suspension of disbelief" while watching movies. But extremely unbelievable scenes will knock you right out of that and make the whole experience less enjoyable.

 

[AUMM]

Originally posted by: dwell
It was f'tarded. It's the sort of ending for people who love to think they are smarter than everyone else because they can explain it to dumb people.

did you have trouble understanding it or something?

 

[Red Dawn]

Liked it. As you can tell by the posts in this thread, it's a movie for those who are capable of thinking

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

actions by these aliens ridiculously unbelievable

Ok, explain to me how imaginary creatures are supposed to behave. Your thinking from a totally human-centric point of view.

If you think the fact that he didn't pick up a weapon, something I never even noticed, was unbeleivable and made for a poor movie, what did you do when you watched something like Armageddon? Burn down the theater and riot in the streets? O the topic of Armageddon, wouldn't it have been easier to teach drilling to a astronaut than teaching being a astronaut to a driller.

They are supposed to behave realistically. Even if the aliens did not know about water, they would have sent scouts and done research. It is simply impossible to believe that a race that has mastered inter galactic travel would not take even the slightest precautions when invading another world.
When/If the US goes to war in iraq, will they send naked soldiers with pitchforks? Or will they send them in uniforms, helmets and with some weapons?

And on the topic of Armageddon, even that awful thing was more consistent than this retarded piece of sh!t you people call "a movie".

And just to show you how stupid your "human-centric" argument is: think about LotR. Its a fantasy movie, but it is EXTREMELY consistent. Everything makes sense. Characters and events develop in a way that doesn't leave you thinking "wtf did they do that for?"

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Even if the aliens did not know about water, they would have sent scouts and done research. It is simply impossible to believe that a race that has mastered inter galactic travel would not take even the slightest precautions when invading another world.

You are still trying to put human traits to a non human species. Why do you think they would have sent scouts and done research? Because thats what humans would do.

 

Originally posted by: AUMM

Originally posted by: dwell
It was f'tarded. It's the sort of ending for people who love to think they are smarter than everyone else because they can explain it to dumb people.

did you have trouble understanding it or something?

No. They kind of beat you over the head with the fact the movie was about faith. Just about anyone could have figured it out but that does not stop some people from feeling obligated to explain it to everyone like it was some obscenely subtle point of the film. Films like, say, Pulp Fiction do a lot better at having a theme (redemption in the case of PF) without beating it over your head.

Signs was nothing but a two-hour long episode of the Twilight Zone. Many of the TZ episodes did the same sort of concept but better (and shorter). "The Monsters Are Due on Maple Street" for instance, which is about the humanity being prone to distrust (among other things) not aliens.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: Antisocial-Virge

Even if the aliens did not know about water, they would have sent scouts and done research. It is simply impossible to believe that a race that has mastered inter galactic travel would not take even the slightest precautions when invading another world.

You are still trying to put human traits to a non human species. Why do you think they would have sent scouts and done research? Because thats what humans would do.

NO! This is not a human trait, its a common sense! Have you ever seen an animal eat food for example? They don't just eat it, they smell it first. See if good to eat. You need to have precaution in order to survive. If these aliens survived long enough to be more technologically advanced than us, then they are familiar with precaution.

 

[Red Dawn]

If you want to see a movie with a retarded ending watch "Pumpkin"

 

[Stark]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If you want to see a movie with a retarded ending watch "Pumpkin"

You don't think a blonde sorority girl (who hula dances with her gut hanging out) would want to sleep with a retard? And her boyfriend wouldn't drive off a cliff in a john waters-esque sequence before becoming a role-model for crippled athletes?

You sure are hard to please!

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Stark

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
If you want to see a movie with a retarded ending watch "Pumpkin"

You don't think a blonde sorority girl (who hula dances with her gut hanging out) would want to sleep with a retard? And her boyfriend wouldn't drive off a cliff in a john waters-esque sequence before becoming a role-model for crippled athletes?

You sure are hard to please!

Did you notice how well he was able to walk after he slept with her?

 

[CraigRT]

I just watched the movie Signs....what a retarded ending

What a retarded MOVIE!

 

[Bignate603]

That thing about martians not being able to stand water was lifted from Heinlen's books. His universe he created where most of his books occured had the martians get hurt by contact with water.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: Astaroth33
Sounds to me like M. Night Shyamalan holds the title for "most overrated director", given that he appears to have shot his wad with Sixth Sense.. I haven't seen Signs, and don't intend to.

Those are bold words with Tim Burton and David Lynch walking around as free men.