I keep hearing from people that riding a motorcycle is way too dangourous

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Z15CAM

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Well I'm still contemplating of replacing my Barroni Titanium Rims with a Cast Suzuki alloys so I can mount more then a 130 70 18 -That's suicidal in my case - I'm getting too old and just wanna cruse - HIC!

 
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sze5003

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Gonna look for those dog bones and see if it's something I can do myself and do it properly. I've been wondering why it always seemed like it was low. Its always harder to steer with clip on's anyway. I would not have bought it if I knew they changed the height of it.
 

JulesMaximus

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This was my favorite Enduro - Name it:

I sold her $450 ;o( The engine was sick at the time and had plans of putting a 550 twin in her but never did.

I paint my Bikes Red with Big Head lights an loud horns.

Looks kind of like a Bultaco but I don't think that's what it is. Is it a BSA?
 

JulesMaximus

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Gonna look for those dog bones and see if it's something I can do myself and do it properly. I've been wondering why it always seemed like it was low. Its always harder to steer with clip on's anyway. I would not have bought it if I knew they changed the height of it.

You can pick up a set of OEM dog bones for less than $30 on ebay. It's not hard to change them out, you just need to support the motorcycle properly.
 

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... There are also a couple people who are contractors for the Navy and Marines who are paid full time to do nothing but train recruits on motorcycle safety which includes rider clinics. I know these people, they work hard and care about the people they are entrusted with. The military has a lot invested in this... why should civilians be any different?

BTW-That is your tax dollars at work. :sneaky:....
Yep, I had to take a course before I could bring my motorcycle on base.
 

sze5003

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I'll need to check mine and see if they are stock or aftermarket. If it is lowered which it seems so then I bet they most certainly are aftermarket. My friend also has a Suzuki variant of my bike but its 750cc and he says his is lowered too.
 

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1. Take the MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) Course--This is the cheapest and safest way to find out if you really want to ride. Some people find out within the first 5-10 minutes of riding, they do not wish to pursue this at all.

A. No need for a permit with this class/once you pass you only need to take the written test at the DMV.



2. Riding or driving is inherently risky, it is the amount of risk you are willing to accept.



After passing I got a Suzuki Bergman, a maxi-scooter, 400cc bike with an automatic trans., twist and go. No clutch to worry about.

Powerful enough for freeway driving but not to powerful for skill level.
 

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I've been riding a long time.I started off racing Moto-X bikes at 12 and have had quite a few road bikes since.
If you are careful(and not too unlucky) you can go a whole riding career on the road without a bad smash.
Ive broken my foot once and put a few bruises on hips and elbows over the years but nothing too serious.
So for me,the tradeoff between having a great time on sports motorcycles and risking the danger of a big crash has been worth it.:thumbsup:

Seeing Z15CAM and others are showing off their toys...I figured I'd join the party... Here's my current ride: 1995 900SS
 
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sze5003

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I've been riding a long time.I started off racing Moto-X bikes at 12 and have had quite a few road bikes since.
If you are careful(and not too unlucky) you can go a whole riding career on the road without a bad smash.
Ive broken my foot once and put a few bruises on hips and elbows over the years but nothing too serious.
So for me,the tradeoff between having a great time on sports motorcycles and risking the danger of a big crash has been worth it.:thumbsup:

Seeing Z15CAM and others are showing off their toys...I figured I'd join the party... Here's my current ride: 1995 900SS

That's a pretty bike. I always liked Ducati but they are too expensive for me to find even used. I think I like their seating position better than the r6 and cbr. I feel so cramped on my friend's cbr600. I did sit on a cbr 500 last year and it felt very different.
 

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Thanks SZE..it sure does draw a crowd and favorable comments from pretty much all bike riders whether on crotch rockets or cruisers/tourers.
I had a GSXR before that....the relaxed riding position of the 900SS for both me and girl on the back is much, much more comfortable.
 

Z15CAM

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A Ducati 900SS in my dreams - Road a 350 Desmo and 72 750SS at one time.

Is it a BSA?

CLOSE - It's a 70 Triumph 250 Trophy. You can put a 550 or 650 Twin in the frame.

I was riding an 82 1100 Kantana Suzuki GSX when I got married in 89 and sold it along with a 550 Titan 550 Cafe when the kids started to show up. 18 years later after the kids grew up we separated and I put the Breganze back on the road and love cursing Northern Ontario on it.
 
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I'll need to check mine and see if they are stock or aftermarket. If it is lowered which it seems so then I bet they most certainly are aftermarket. My friend also has a Suzuki variant of my bike but its 750cc and he says his is lowered too.

Almost all lowered rear suspensions use dogbones.

This usually makes the bike not lean over on the kickstand enough, so you might need a new kickstand as well.

As others have said, lowering the suspension is not the ideal way to lower a bike as it screws up the geometry. It's ok for a brand new rider who isn't up in the twisties, but you're much better off having an upholstery place shave the seat down.
 

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I've been riding a long time.I started off racing Moto-X bikes at 12 and have had quite a few road bikes since.
If you are careful(and not too unlucky) you can go a whole riding career on the road without a bad smash.
Ive broken my foot once and put a few bruises on hips and elbows over the years but nothing too serious.
So for me,the tradeoff between having a great time on sports motorcycles and risking the danger of a big crash has been worth it.:thumbsup:

Seeing Z15CAM and others are showing off their toys...I figured I'd join the party... Here's my current ride: 1995 900SS

I love seeing older Ducatis, they always look classic. Here is my 01 748:


I wouldn't trade it for anything; it's been a fantastic bike. It's also a great tool for learning how to be a mechanic I've had it stripped down to the pistons before for some maintenance (replacing flaking rocker arms) and I've learned quite a bit about it; doubt I'd ever sell it now, will always have a place in my garage.

As far as dangerous, I shattered my hip on another bike in 2007 when I highsided, my fault, but I was back riding after 3 months on crutches and wheelchairs and with new lessons learned.
 

sze5003

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Almost all lowered rear suspensions use dogbones.

This usually makes the bike not lean over on the kickstand enough, so you might need a new kickstand as well.

As others have said, lowering the suspension is not the ideal way to lower a bike as it screws up the geometry. It's ok for a brand new rider who isn't up in the twisties, but you're much better off having an upholstery place shave the seat down.

Surprisingly I'm tall enough that I don't want it lowered. The previous owner's wife was short so my guess is they lowered it for her. The kickstand seems pretty long so my guess is it would lean more once I put in standard dog bones.

Looks like on eBay they only have sv 1000 dog bones but I can get oem ones on bike bandit for $20 a piece.

I really need it to warm up here so I can take the bike out. It's fuel injected and I last rode it in February but it stalled twice on the way. Gotta get all old fuel out of there and clean it up. This winter was/is horrible.
 
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Wild Thing

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@theApp Yum...748 a very nice piece of hardware.
I had the pleasure of riding one for a few hours one day.It has a fairly hardcore riding position however and made my GSX 400R feel almost comfortable.The steering and brakes are just sweet.Did I forget to mention the noise? God it sounded good.
Owning a good Ducati sports bike is a rare pleasure,if you have the means I highly recommend one.
 

JulesMaximus

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I love seeing older Ducatis, they always look classic. Here is my 01 748:


I wouldn't trade it for anything; it's been a fantastic bike. It's also a great tool for learning how to be a mechanic I've had it stripped down to the pistons before for some maintenance (replacing flaking rocker arms) and I've learned quite a bit about it; doubt I'd ever sell it now, will always have a place in my garage.

As far as dangerous, I shattered my hip on another bike in 2007 when I highsided, my fault, but I was back riding after 3 months on crutches and wheelchairs and with new lessons learned.

That was a common problem on those models and some of the older superbikes too. BTW-I think the 748 is one of the most beautiful motorcycles ever made.

My current bike. I bought it new in June 2011 and have over 14,000 miles on it currently.


After a nice soaking wet ride recently.


My friend's GT1000. He just bought a 2007 Multistrada 1100 S so he may sell this one.


This is when we did the valve adjustment on his bike.


After replacing the tank with a NOS tank (which he coated himself), valve adjustment, belts, rear brake bleed, and new clutch slave cylinder on his Multistrada (did all the work himself).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=276Naxc1kHc

My bike after a shifter spring broke. I opened it up and did this repair myself. Coming up on the 15,000 valve adjustment and belts, going to do this myself too.

 
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Yea, pre 1996 models have good rocker arms, but then Ducati changed who made them and the chrome plating wasn't up to spec, so it flakes off. I believe they were fixed around the time of the Testastretta engine. It's a bigger issue on the 748s because they rev higher so the rocker arms take a little more abuse then the bigger brothers like the 916 and 996. 998 is good since they moved from the Desmoquattro to the Testastretta engine for that one. I had only a few flaking rockers, like 1 or 2 openers and 2 or 3 closers(out of 8 per head, total of 16 rockers), but I went ahead and had all them rechromed since the heads were already off and I didn't want to remove them again the future. The damn closer rockers are about impossible to reinstall with the heads on the bike. Even removed, they are still a tricky bit to get back in.

That's a good looking bike too. I love seeing the engines out in the open like that, they are beautiful. If I had a Monster and wasn't worried about my belts being damaged. I'd run it without the belt covers, but too much risk to me...
 

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The main reason why I dont own a bike:

I dont trust myself. I ski and I ski frickin fast. I love the adrenaline. I love the rush of hurling down a double black steeply pitched slope and feeling the wind want to rip my helmet and goggles off. Speed is my drug and I ski recklessly, I'll admit it. But I have been skiing since I was a kid and am pretty confident in my adult life even if I know I shouldn't be doing it so fast. With skiing, you are at the mercy of gravity to take you that fast, its all about letting gravity and the slope accelerate you. With a motorcycle you just flick the wrist and you could be doing triple digit speeds. Fastest I ever went on skis was over 70 mph and I was scared and exhilarated

I know I could die/get injured on skis. I have to work hard to get up to speed and maintain it. On a bike it is just tooooo easy. I know I am reckless so I don't need to ride something that makes it much easier to get going fast and with an engine so the speed is instantly available. I also dont need to be reckless around cars/trucks or asphalt, IMHO I think its marginally safer on a ski slope. Falling on the snow is probably better than falling on a highway with other motor vehicles.

I know myself and my addiction and would rather not ride a bike, which would let me satisfy my addiction to velocity more than skis ever could. I'd be dead in less than a year especially when you get to that stage where you start getting more and more confidence and fool yourself into doing something stupid and risky.

The other reason:

Look at the quality of other drivers around you. Its an epidemic of attention deficit drivers always distracted. Whether its someone looking at their phone, playing with the radio. a distracted soccer mom in a minivan yelling at her kids in the backseat, an uninsured illegal who doesnt know the road rules of this country, a car full of dizzy teenage girls who are singing with the radio and looking everywhere else except the road or the elderly with deteriorated vision who should not longer be driving. Its practically asking to get hit
 

monkeydelmagico

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The main reason why I dont own a bike:

I dont trust myself.

Self awareness is key.

Getting to 70 in a couple seconds with a flick of the wrist is freakin' awesome. I'm an adrenaline junky too, although never that fast on skiis or snowboard. Maybe bicycle.....done some hairy downhills. I've surfed in hurricanes, skydive, skateboard, etc. so I hear you loud and clear. But I predict that one day you might give motorcycles a shot. You are aware of the risks both external and internal. With age comes wisdom and bad knees. If you ever get to a location where traffic isn't a huge factor your gonna be trolling the craigslist motorcycle section.
 

NetWareHead

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Self awareness is key.

Getting to 70 in a couple seconds with a flick of the wrist is freakin' awesome. I'm an adrenaline junky too, although never that fast on skiis or snowboard. Maybe bicycle.....done some hairy downhills. I've surfed in hurricanes, skydive, skateboard, etc. so I hear you loud and clear. But I predict that one day you might give motorcycles a shot. You are aware of the risks both external and internal. With age comes wisdom and bad knees. If you ever get to a location where traffic isn't a huge factor your gonna be trolling the craigslist motorcycle section.


Thanks and I agree with you to an extent. I was adamant about not getting a motorcycle in my 20s. Im almost to mid 30s now and sometimes I give my long standing opposition to riding a review and I always decide against it. I'm sure I would approach motorcycling with respect and learn carefully and not hotdog it even if the temptation is so great! The reason is my second reason in my post and that is the attention and skill levels of my fellow motorists who drive far bigger and heavier vehicles than I do. Unlike my own urge to hotdog, other drivers are something I cannot control. This thread is peppered with anecdotes about seemingly safe riders who were safely and responsibly riding when somebody smeared them into the street. I don't know...I just see examples of stupidity everyday when I drive a car and its hard to just ignore :\
 

JulesMaximus

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Yea, pre 1996 models have good rocker arms, but then Ducati changed who made them and the chrome plating wasn't up to spec, so it flakes off. I believe they were fixed around the time of the Testastretta engine. It's a bigger issue on the 748s because they rev higher so the rocker arms take a little more abuse then the bigger brothers like the 916 and 996. 998 is good since they moved from the Desmoquattro to the Testastretta engine for that one. I had only a few flaking rockers, like 1 or 2 openers and 2 or 3 closers(out of 8 per head, total of 16 rockers), but I went ahead and had all them rechromed since the heads were already off and I didn't want to remove them again the future. The damn closer rockers are about impossible to reinstall with the heads on the bike. Even removed, they are still a tricky bit to get back in.

That's a good looking bike too. I love seeing the engines out in the open like that, they are beautiful. If I had a Monster and wasn't worried about my belts being damaged. I'd run it without the belt covers, but too much risk to me...

Yeah, running without belt covers is not smart. It just takes a small bit of debris kicked up to get in there and ruin your engine. I see guys running with no belt covers or the Rizoma open covers but I would be too worried about something getting caught in the belts to do that.

My friend with the Multistrada put the belt covers back on but hadn't done it yet when I shot that video. We had just finished bleeding the rear brake and fired it up for the first time after all the work we did (I helped him with the valve adjustment-just so I would be better prepared to doing it myself on my bike, clutch slave cylinder and bleeding the rear brake-both of which I have done on my bike).
 
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