Originally posted by: SagaLore
Originally posted by: thepd7
1. There is a law in the old testament.
2. That is true. However, all sin condemns you to hell.
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Check out this passage - "Neither shall a garment mingled of linen and woolen come upon thee." - Leviticus 19:19. That is an old testament law. Check out the fabric ratios in the clothes you wear.
Sorry, God didn't create us to set us up for Hell. The fall in Eden wasn't a path to hell, but rather a path to mortality. Jesus came here to get us to stop our self-invoked misery during this mortality, i.e. the religious nuts of his time, judging everyone. Ring a bell? He "died for our sins" literally means we killed him - not that he became some gateway into an afterlife. We're all forgiven of our stupidity after we die, there are no secret handshakes.
Read the literal translations of the passages concerning hell. Then read about those times. You'll find that they were talking about literal places, not metaphors related to an afterlife.
Yes, that is true there are many laws we don't follow. However, Jesus makes it clear that it's the condition of the heart that matters with the mention of how someone angry with their brother has committed murder in his heart, etc.
So then the question is, is the law regarding homosexuality one that we ignore because of Jesus' coming or one that stands?
I would argue that it stands. Why? Because of the precedent set in Genesis (woman created for man).
Would you also say that beastiality is ok?
God created us to glorify Him. There is no other reason for our existence. We are not all forgiven.
"For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life"
"I stand at the door and knock"
If someone comes to my house to give me a million dollars, but I don't let them in, do I get the million dollars? They can knock their butt off all night but if I never open the door, I am not getting the money.
It is the same with the gift of eternal life. Sins are not forgiven automatically. It is a sacred gift that must be recognized and accepted.
As far as afterlife goes, much of the guessing is theology, which I don't put much stock in. I don't care what happens to me after I die.
This much I know (from the Bible): I will be separated from God unless my sins are wiped clean. I need Jesus for that to happen. So I can choose eternal life or eternal death.