I knew it...

zsdersw

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... that the GOP wouldn't stick to cleaning up our fiscal mess and would try to pursue stuff like this as well:

http://thehill.com/homenews/news/13...ill-to-ban-gay-marriage-in-dc?page=1#comments

House conservatives say they will pursue legislation that would ban gay marriage in the nation’s capital.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee (RSC), told The Hill that he will push for a vote on the controversial issue in the 112th Congress. The RSC has 175 members.

“I think RSC will push for it, and I’m certainly strongly for it. I don’t know if we’ve made a decision if I’ll do it or let another member do it, but I’m 100 percent for it,” Jordan said.

In the last Congress, Jordan was the lead sponsor on the D.C. Defense of Marriage Act. The bill was introduced after the D.C. City Council and then-Mayor Adrian Fenty indicated they would recognize same-sex marriages.

Jordan’s measure garnered 53 co-sponsors last year. But it is expected to attract more support in the GOP-led House in 2011.

Recently, Jordan added his name to a legal brief with other gay-marriage opponents who challenged a decision by the D.C. Board of Elections and Ethics denying a ballot initiative banning gay marriage. The board concluded that such a ballot initiative would violate D.C.’s Human Rights Act.

 
Feb 16, 2005
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The gayz are coming! The gayz are coming, DC is known for it's preservation and respect for the institution of marriage, must be preserved!!

what a fucking idiot.
 

DesiPower

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No matter how bad (or good) gay and gay marriage is not the society, its a human problem and its for us human beings to decide what to do about it... why are politicians poking their nose in our matters. they should stick to their kind and see what hey can or cant do for the bankers...
 

rudeguy

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No matter how bad (or good) gay and gay marriage is not the society, its a human problem and its for us human beings to decide what to do about it... why are politicians poking their nose in our matters. they should stick to their kind and see what hey can or cant do for the bankers...

I almost agree. I would be in favor of something like this mixed in with Obamacare, since the two are related.

But on its own? Work on something important. This is like the captain of a sinking ship worrying about if the portholes are clean.
 

werepossum

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This is important to social conservatives, probably more important than balancing the budget. Just goes to show that we don't have a small government party, merely a really big government party and a really, really big government party. No government with the authority to determine whom one can and cannot marry can ever be described as small government, no matter how few services it provides.

This isn't quite the same as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but it's enforcing a dress codes.
 
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The Republicans are not opposed to big government. Rather, they just support having a Big Christian Government.
 

Zebo

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These American fundi's need to move to middle east. You can hang gays and even blasphemers there. Forget about marriage, topic never even comes up.
 

Phokus

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You're not going to get EVERY red state rube to vote against their economic interests without pushing God/Guns/Gays as wedge issues.
 

bfdd

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No matter how bad (or good) gay and gay marriage is not the society, its a human problem and its for us human beings to decide what to do about it... why are politicians poking their nose in our matters. they should stick to their kind and see what hey can or cant do for the bankers...

you're fucking stupid
 

BurnItDwn

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I hope they vote to ban it, and then it goes to the court system, and eventually, the supreme court overturns gay marriage ban's once and for all nationwide....
It's just completely stupid.

Who gives a shit if 2 gay people want to be married. And let them adopt kids as long as there's kids needing adopting, they would be a hell of a lot better off with 2 loving parents then stuck going through DCFS and foster care....

Anyhow, it is a civil rights issue, there is no justification for banning it other than "icky" or "ewww", and any/all bans will ultimately lose in court since they are quite anti constitutional, furthermore, a gay marriage ban goes against everything which America stands for.
 

zinfamous

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lol. ain't gonna happen in DC. also no way they're repealing healthcare. I like how they waste time by all this "lip service" bullshit when they know very well that nothing will come of it.

just trying to show their voters that they "mean business." yeah right. How about actually working, getting something accomplished?

what a bunch of goons.
 

Craig234

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Wonder if he's gonna push through a bill that bans divorces too.

Of course not. 'Defense of marriage' is code for 'anti-gay', not to be taken literally.

People should not confuse what they're doing with caring about 'social conservative issues'. They're about money - but these issues help them get votes to get the money.

We saw their real agenda on the tax cuts for the rich.
 

Dr. Zaus

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Oct 16, 2008
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Why don't gay people just become strait and not have to worry about people being bias against them? Choosing to be gay seems really illogical; even if they are born with a homosexual predilection, wouldn't it make more sense to 'bight the bullet' and just pretend to be hetero?
 

Brigandier

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Why don't gay people just become strait and not have to worry about people being bias against them? Choosing to be gay seems really illogical; even if they are born with a homosexual predilection, wouldn't it make more sense to 'bight the bullet' and just pretend to be hetero?

I think biting the bullet is what got them in trouble in the first place.

Also, I hope you're not serious.
 

Robor

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It's good to see it didn't take long for the new Republicans to focus on jobs and the economy. /sarcasm
 

Thump553

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This is important to social conservatives, probably more important than balancing the budget. Just goes to show that we don't have a small government party, merely a really big government party and a really, really big government party. No government with the authority to determine whom one can and cannot marry can ever be described as small government, no matter how few services it provides.

This isn't quite the same as rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, but it's enforcing a dress codes.

I absolutely detest the term "social conservatives" for it is both false and a misnomer. It has absolutely nothing to do with conservatism in any regard, it is purely legislating morality and authoritarism.

I'd have a lot more respect for Ron Paul, Rand Paul and their libertarian ilk if they would stand up strong and loud against this sort of BS instead of covertly (and sometimes overtly) supporting it.

Personally I'm still waiting for the GOP to even to both to address their core issue-jobs, jobs, jobs-much less actually even doing anything about it. So far all we are getting is reruns of the same old tired GOP tactics.
 

Dr. Zaus

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legislating morality
Isn't everything we legislate based on what we find to be moral or immoral? I personally find taking living human lives detestable and think a primary goal of the government should be to reduce (not spend billions on achieving) this end. I personally find an egalitarian start to one's life, improved educational chances for everyone, to be a moral imperative; as is helping those who can not help themselves and many other social-liberal agenda things.

It's not that we shouldn't legislate from morality, but rather that the morality we should legislate from is love and not shame.
 
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zsdersw

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Isn't everything we legislate based on what we find to be moral or immoral? I personally find taking living human lives detestable and think a primary goal of the government should be to reduce (not spend billions on achieving) this end. I personally find an egalitarian start to one's life, improved educational chances for everyone, to be a moral imperative; as is helping those who can not help themselves and many other social-liberal agenda things.

It's not that we shouldn't legislate from morality, but rather that the morality we should legislate from is love and not shame.

"Legislating morality", whether out of love or shame, is using the full force and credit of government to essentially say: "government knows best"... when the truth is that none of us is as dumb as all of us or a majority of us.

Beyond the constitutionally set standard of ensuring the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, government has no role legislating morality.
 
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Dr. Zaus

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"Legislating morality", whether out of love or shame, is using the full force and credit of government to essentially say: "government knows best"... when the truth is that none of us is as dumb as all of us or a majority of us.

Beyond the constitutionally set standard of ensuring the rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, government has no role legislating morality.

Rape is not a federal crime nor is it illegalized in the constitution; should we have no laws against it?

Alternatively, I would argue that legislation offering a reasonable education is essential to the right to pursue happiness.
 
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